This E. Jean Carroll Case Makes America into an "Alice In Wonderland" World!

[Auld Phart]

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is that supposed to prove something?

 

[candycorn]

What is wrong with you?

Nothing. Then again, I don’t fantasize about kids and sex...like you guys do.

 

[postman]

To fix the first would be a 1 day, 24 hour in person voting period, with each Election day being a National Holiday, or on a Saturday or Sunday.

Absentee ballots for strict cause only, and they have to be postmarked by the DAY BEFORE the election.

A better fix is just the opposite. Begin early voting 2 weeks ahead of election day, with absentee and mail-in ballots being verified upon receipt. Along with ballot curing (bad voter notified and given opportunity to fix the defect)
A count of outstanding absentee and mail-in ballots on election day (including military and overseas), and a tallying of absentee and mail-in ballots received by election day cutoff.
All ballots in hand, counted, and if the margin of victory is greater than the outstanding ballot count, the election is called, else they wait for mail-in votes with valid postmarks until the victory margin exceeds the still outstanding ballots, or two weeks (for military ballots)

And have every state follow the same voting procedure.

 

[martybegan]

A better fix is just the opposite. Begin early voting 2 weeks ahead of election day, with absentee and mail-in ballots being verified upon receipt. Along with ballot curing (bad voter notified and given opportunity to fix the defect)
A count of outstanding absentee and mail-in ballots on election day (including military and overseas), and a tallying of absentee and mail-in ballots received by election day cutoff.
All ballots in hand, counted, and if the margin of victory is greater than the outstanding ballot count, the election is called, else they wait for mail-in votes with valid postmarks until the victory margin exceeds the still outstanding ballots, or two weeks (for military ballots)

And have every state follow the same voting procedure.

Way too much work and way easier to rig than just what I proposed.

Which is of course why prog idiots like you want massive voting periods.

 

[BULLDOG]

Biden couldn't "kick" his way out of a wet, paper bag. The feeble-minded Pedo is too busy fantasizing about Ashley.

Really? Who do you think is president right now?

 

[postman]

Way too much work and way easier to rig than just what I proposed.

Which is of course why prog idiots like you want massive voting periods.

How is it easier to rig. The two week before election day, gives them time to verify every signature, when night of the election counting makes it virtually impossible for large election districts.

 

[martybegan]

How is it easier to rig. The two week before election day, gives them time to verify every signature, when night of the election counting makes it virtually impossible for large election districts.

Too bad for those districts, so sad.

One day voting, 24 hour voting period, National Holiday or a weekend.

 

[Auld Phart]

applied to the back of the head.

Cost? Less than $1

 

[postman]

Too bad for those districts, so sad.

Those election districts carry the bulk of the actual vote.
Which means you're violating equal protection, since each vote should have equal chance of being counted. Where putting a greater burden on large districts, means more of their votes (compared to small districts) won't get counted.

 

[martybegan]

Those election districts carry the bulk of the actual vote.
Which means you're violating equal protection, since each vote should have equal chance of being counted. Where putting a greater burden on large districts, means more of their votes (compared to small districts) won't get counted.

Not even close. I'm not saying the counting has to be done in one day you fucking idiot, I'm saying the balloting in 24 hours, and all of the small amount of absentee ballots postmarked by the day before.

 

[Blaster]

It is scary that you can be convicted of a crime without any evidence to prove you did it. Women can use a false sexual abuse charge just to cash in because of a sympathetic jury.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It is scary that you can be convicted of a crime without any evidence to prove you did it.

There was a civil trial. there was sufficient evidence to meet the civil burden.

Women can use a false sexual abuse charge just to cash in because of a sympathetic jury.

Ok Incel.

 

[SavannahMann]

This E. Jean Carroll defamation case currently on trial against Donad Trump is so wrong, words cannot even begin to fully describe the wrongfulness of this case. This case is an assault on the constitutional and fundamental right of free speech, this civil right is not just a civil right it is one of around a handful of core rights which make up the bedrock of America. If you get rid of all the drama around this case, what this case boils down to is person A accused person B of a crime and person B says it never happened, the allegation are all a bunch of lies. The right of free speech holds great importance for many reasons and it would be difficult if not impossible to come up with a more important reason for the right of free speech than the right to defend oneself against the accusations one committed a crime. The meaning and ramification of this trial is that it will henceforth going forward in America be against the law and will make one liable for civil damages if one is accused of a crime and found guilty or found liable by a court and after the trial one still claims his or her innocence. Just think about the manifest injustice of this type of law in American if it is able to hold status as the law of the land. Just think of how many criminal cases, murders and rapes, in America over our history that have had convictions but the convictions were later overturned because a witness(s) was either coerced or manipulated to testify or a confession was obtained through trickery or pressure or DNA testing cleared the convicted person. This interpretation of American law promulgated by this case will mean for defendants wrongly convicted of a crime in America and if such a person continues to claim his or her innocence that the complainant or victim is lying or not telling the truth than that person will be subject to a defamation case or either further criminally prosecuted for contempt of court. This is completely unjust for it will suppress a wrongfully convicted person's right and ability to pursue overturning that wrongful conviction; frankly, it is shocking that such an anti-American law would have the possibility of actually being in effect our country!


This current case against Donald Trump seems so incredibly unjust from another standpoint. This current case is called Carroll I because the wrongful conduct occurred in 2019 and there was another case called Carroll II for wrongful conduct that occurred in 2022. Now the Carroll II case has already been concluded and Trump was found liable for battery/sexual assault and defamation because Trump said the sexual assault never occurred in 2022 and the jury said it did. Now the present case Carroll I in part is for the same type of defamation charge but for statement made by Trump three years earlier. Now the second case because it is the same basic issue whether or not the defendant Donald Trump defamed E Jean Carroll, the Judge in the second case said this issue is already resolved by the jury in the Carroll II case which found that Trump defamed Ms. Carroll and the only issue left in the current case Carroll I is for the jury to determine the amount of the damages. The extreme injustice here is that the plaintiff or the court should have combined the defamation charges in both cases into one case because it does not seem possible to say that the jury hearing the 2022 defamation charge was able to determine the damages solely by the 2022 statement it is not possible for the jury not to have factored in for determining damages the harm caused by the 2019 defamatory statements of the defendant on E. Jean Carroll's life. This case should be thrown out on the legal doctrine of res judicata because the issue involved was largely considered in last years case on the 2022 defamation statement!




For the record I am not a supporter of President Trump or candidate Trump and have no interest in defending him on such basis, I whole heartedly hope he isn't elected President of the United States this year. Because Donald Trump cannot be trusted to do what is good on anything of significant importance; it is even worse than that if elected the next President, the American People can be guaranteed President Trump will do at minimum a number of meaningful bad things because his track record shows clearly he is regularly not capable of appreciating the good, his character is so depraved he is often not capable of identifying the good and the importance of adhering to it in situations!

Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequence. If you say something about someone, and you can’t prove it, you can be sued for slander or defamation of character.

The real question is how stupid is Trump? Losing one lawsuit would be bad enough. But to run your mouth again. And get sued again. That is just stupid. I mean you know she is suit happy and will sick her lawyer on you. So why invite more problems?

Trump is just too stupid to shut the fuck up.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It is scary that you can be convicted of a crime without any evidence to prove you did it. Women can use a false sexual abuse charge just to cash in because of a sympathetic jury.

This is over. Your opinion is shit. This is not being re-litigated. Only the amount is at question now that the Orange Perv will have to pay to the victim.

 

[Blaster]

This is over. Your opinion is shit. This is not being re-litigated. Only the amount is at question now that the Orange Perv will have to pay to the victim.

So its okay for a woman to falsely accuse you of sexual assault?

 

[AZrailwhale]

There was a civil trial. there was sufficient evidence to meet the civil burden.


Ok Incel.

There was no evidence at all. Just unverifiable claims decades after the event.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So its okay for a woman to falsely accuse you of sexual assault?

That is not the case. Trump has been held liable, period. The is not re-litigable.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There was no evidence at all. Just unverifiable claims decades after the event.

The jury did decide it was verifiable. The jury does not care what you think.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The jury did decide it was verifiable. The jury does not care what you think.

The jury didn’t care about proof, Justice or the law. It if did they wouldnt have found him liable without proof.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The jury didn’t care about proof, Justice or the law. It if did they wouldnt have found him liable without proof.

You are pitiful. What you think on this means nothing. Same with me, baboo. Only the Judge and Jury's decision matters. Howl at the moon for all you want. There will be no appeal.