Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care = USA no!

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception.

The following list, compiled from WHO sources where possible, shows the start date and type of system used to implement universal health care in each developed country.

Note that universal health care does not imply government-only health care, as many countries implementing a universal health care plan continue to have both public and private insurance and medical providers


List of Countries with Universal Healthcare « True Cost – Analyzing our economy, government policy, and society through the lens of cost-benefit

Sounds like there are plenty of other places for you to choose to live then, huh.

 

[Snake0311]

The Republican Policy of "Let Him Die" is much less expensive.

In typical liberal fashion you post a total falsehood and try to pass it off as truth when in fact it is the liberals policy to ration care to "contain costs" resulting in a defacto "let him die" policy. If you weren't such a moron you might be intelligent.

It's private insurance that rations care. Surely you know that.

Obamacare has a 15 member board of bureaucrats whose job it is to determine who gets how much and what kind of care. That is rationing. Insurance companies don't ration, they pay for what the contract says they will pay for.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

In typical liberal fashion you post a total falsehood and try to pass it off as truth when in fact it is the liberals policy to ration care to "contain costs" resulting in a defacto "let him die" policy. If you weren't such a moron you might be intelligent.

It's private insurance that rations care. Surely you know that.

Obamacare has a 15 member board of bureaucrats whose job it is to determine who gets how much and what kind of care. That is rationing. Insurance companies don't ration, they pay for what the contract says they will pay for.

PROVE IT.

Quit the stupid lies and just PROVE IT.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

So?

We lead, not follow.

Idiot.

Doesn't seem many countries are following our lead

Actually, there are countries who do well to follow our lead ... We are Number One in what we spend for health care but 37th in health care in the world.

We're 39th for infant mortality, 43rd for adult female mortality, 42nd for adult male mortality, and 36th for life expectancy.

There are plenty of third world countries who would love to catch up with us.

And, if the rw's get their way, if we continue this race to the bottom, those third world countries will soon pass us by. Isn't that just peachy keen?

 

[mudwhistle]

Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception.

But we're on the list now, just with a 2014 start date.

Cool.....2009 to 2014.

What's taking so long????

Oh, I know.....if I need any treatment I have to wait 5 years.

 

[Greenbeard]

Obamacare has a 15 member board of bureaucrats whose job it is to determine who gets how much and what kind of care. That is rationing. Insurance companies don't ration, they pay for what the contract says they will pay for.

The IPAB is explicitly forbidden from making any recommendations to ration care (whatever that means) in the statute. Their job is to find ways to improve the way services for Medicare beneficiaries are paid for and delivered. They're like a version of MedPAC with actual authority:

‘‘(B) ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.—In developing and submitting each proposal under this section in a proposal year, the Board shall, to the extent feasible—

‘‘(i) give priority to recommendations that extend Medicare solvency;
‘‘(ii) include recommendations that—

‘‘(I) improve the health care delivery system and health outcomes, including by promoting integrated care, care coordination, prevention and wellness, and quality and efficiency improvement; and
‘‘(II) protect and improve Medicare beneficiaries’ access to necessary and evidence-based items and services, including in rural and frontier areas;​

‘‘(iii) include recommendations that target reductions in Medicare program spending to sources of excess cost growth;
‘‘(iv) consider the effects on Medicare beneficiaries of changes in payments to providers of services (as defined in section 1861(u)) and suppliers (as defined in section 1861(d));
‘‘(v) consider the effects of the recommendations on providers of services and suppliers with actual or projected negative cost margins or payment updates;
‘‘(vi) consider the unique needs of Medicare beneficiaries who are dually eligible for Medicare and the Medicaid program under title XIX; and
‘‘(vii) take into account the data and findings contained in the annual reports under subsection (n) in order to develop proposals that can most effectively promote the delivery of efficient, high quality care to Medicare beneficiaries.​

That said, the IPAB only makes recommendations when Medicare per capita spending is growing faster than certain targets. Given the recent slowdown in Medicare spending ("Slower Growth in Medicare Spending — Is This the New Normal?"), they may not have much to do:

Indeed, in its March 2011 Medicare Baseline, the CBO anticipated that the IPAB wouldn't be called upon to make any recommendations in the 2011-2021 period.

So no need to change your shorts just yet.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obamacare has a 15 member board of bureaucrats whose job it is to determine who gets how much and what kind of care. That is rationing. Insurance companies don't ration, they pay for what the contract says they will pay for.

The IPAB is explicitly forbidden from making any recommendations to ration care (whatever that means) in the statute. Their job is to find ways to improve the way services for Medicare beneficiaries are paid for and delivered. They're like a version of MedPAC with actual authority:

‘‘(B) ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.—In developing and submitting each proposal under this section in a proposal year, the Board shall, to the extent feasible—

‘‘(i) give priority to recommendations that extend Medicare solvency;
‘‘(ii) include recommendations that—

‘‘(I) improve the health care delivery system and health outcomes, including by promoting integrated care, care coordination, prevention and wellness, and quality and efficiency improvement; and
‘‘(II) protect and improve Medicare beneficiaries’ access to necessary and evidence-based items and services, including in rural and frontier areas;​

‘‘(iii) include recommendations that target reductions in Medicare program spending to sources of excess cost growth;
‘‘(iv) consider the effects on Medicare beneficiaries of changes in payments to providers of services (as defined in section 1861(u)) and suppliers (as defined in section 1861(d));
‘‘(v) consider the effects of the recommendations on providers of services and suppliers with actual or projected negative cost margins or payment updates;
‘‘(vi) consider the unique needs of Medicare beneficiaries who are dually eligible for Medicare and the Medicaid program under title XIX; and
‘‘(vii) take into account the data and findings contained in the annual reports under subsection (n) in order to develop proposals that can most effectively promote the delivery of efficient, high quality care to Medicare beneficiaries.​

That said, the IPAB only makes recommendations when Medicare per capita spending is growing faster than certain targets. Given the recent slowdown in Medicare spending ("Slower Growth in Medicare Spending — Is This the New Normal?"), they may not have much to do:

Indeed, in its March 2011 Medicare Baseline, the CBO anticipated that the IPAB wouldn't be called upon to make any recommendations in the 2011-2021 period.

So no need to change your shorts just yet.

STFU asshole.

We're tired of your GD lies.

 

[Political Junky]

In typical liberal fashion you post a total falsehood and try to pass it off as truth when in fact it is the liberals policy to ration care to "contain costs" resulting in a defacto "let him die" policy. If you weren't such a moron you might be intelligent.

It's private insurance that rations care. Surely you know that.

Obamacare has a 15 member board of bureaucrats whose job it is to determine who gets how much and what kind of care. That is rationing. Insurance companies don't ration, they pay for what the contract says they will pay for.

Bullshit.

 

[Greenbeard]

STFU asshole.

We're tired of your GD lies.

 

[Zoom]

So?

We lead, not follow.

Idiot.

In education?

In Health care?

In California girl intelligence?

 

[saveliberty]

Monday is the being of the end for Obamacare. Enjoy your chart projections.