Thinking about Neoconservatism

[William Joyce]

What is it, really?

Prof. MacDonald has some thoughts.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/macdonald_neoconservatism.htm

 

[Comrade]

Well I'll take a stab at psychoanalyzing the good doctor:

"My conclusion: Contemporary neoconservatism fits into the general pattern of Jewish intellectual and political activism I have identified in my work."

Translation:

Our "neo-con" government is ran by Jews.


"Neoconservatives have responded to charges that their foreign policy has a Jewish agenda by labeling any such analysis as “anti-Semitic.”"


Maybe they just don't know what to make of the assertation that the US government being manipulated for the sake of Jewish , and not US interests.


"Current key leaders include an astonishing number of individuals well placed to influence the Bush Administration: "


Not so astonishing when none are actually the President, V.P., the actual of head of a department. A few on the second tier, for sure. But why mention all the Jewish writers dating back to the 30's? So he can tie in select quotes attributable to the Bush admin today? Completely irrelevent.



However:

"A common argument is that neoconservatism is not Jewish because of the presence of various non-Jews amongst their ranks. "

"But in fact, the ability to recruit prominent non-Jews, while nevertheless maintaining a Jewish core and a commitment to Jewish interests, has been a hallmark—perhaps the key hallmark—of influential Jewish intellectual and political movements throughout the 20th century. Freud commented famously on the need for a non-Jew to represent psychoanalysis, a role played by Ernest Jones and C. G. Jung. "



Freud also said we all wanted to have sex with our mother and kill our father.

So all non-Jews have this fixation and this proves the government is ran by Jews.

Get that?



Remember Musharaff saying in his rant that Jews were running the Western world's media and government? This sounds like the essay version.


It's anti-Semetic because it presumes the entire political movement is exclusive to the segment of Jews involved in it, and for their exclusive benefit. The base presumption is that what is good for Isreal (fall of Saddam) is not good for the USA, and therefore the Jews are running things.

I'm not expected to question such Freudian slip's that non-Jews have a different psychology than Jews, who end up being American sheep for the Zionist cabalrun the cattle for their own benefit. This is the PRESUMPTION the professor makes, with absolutely nothing to back it up. History or actions notwithstanding.

The Iraqi war is not about "a Jewish agenda". However you want to cut it (oil, power, security, basing troops), it's purely the US national interest which benefits in the long run. And were a BIG, mainly non-Jewish nation.


"Neoconservatives have certainly appealed to American patriotic platitudes in advocating war throughout the Middle East—gushing about spreading American democracy and freedom to the area, while leaving unmentioned their own strong ethnic ties and family links to Israel. "

Translation:

American's are dumb sheep buying into the Jew's lies about spreading democracy and freedom.



More stuff about:

1. Aparthied in Isreal

2. Neo-cons today were originally Trotskyite Russians before Russian started booting the Jews out.

3. as the U.S. acquires an empire in the Middle East

Ad nauseum.


Could you guess he is psychology professor in California?

 

[William Joyce]

How, then, was the war in the national interest, and not in the Jews' interest?

 

[jon_forward]

this thread is for war on terrorism....your agenda that you push needs to be where it belongs....right next to the Enquirer..and the rest of the scandel sheets.....

 

[William Joyce]

The "war on terrorism" is a war against Arabs, which is in turn a war for Jews. It couldn't be more perfectly placed. I think the one reading the scandal sheets is you.

 

[Comrade]

"How, then, was the war in the national interest, and not in the Jews' interest?"

Is it so hard to believe that in many cases our interests coincide with our allies?

Now you can dispute the actual benefits in the long run to US interests, and even argue there is none.

So a simple question:

Does Saddam's removal hurt the interests of Islamists, dictatorships, and the network of terror?


So YES the war is doing everything it set out to do, in line with US interests.

Or NO, and the Jews crafted a really dumb plan to benefit the primary enemies of Isreal.

 

[William Joyce]

I wouldn't say the plan was perfect. But it was an attempt by Jews to have the U.S. flex its muscle against a strong Arab country, an attempt that was successful. Probably, an Islamic fundamentalist will get a stronghold in Iraq, and on the surface of it, that wouldn't be good for Zionists. But no matter. Whether secular or religious, the point is, "enemy of Israel," and that enemy must be crushed, even with American blood. Jews get what they want, every time. Unless we say "no."

 

[jon_forward]

the only one bringing up race of any sort is you, the only person bringing up religion is you, I find it interesting how you bait people into a discussion and everytime,race is the only issue you talk about,if this isnt baiting I dont know what is...the war on terrorism is not against any one group of people as a whole...but against Islamic Extremist who come in all shapes ,sizes and colors... your views couldnt be more wrong then they are now..but with you its all about the wrong religion or the wrong color isnt it....

 

[jon_forward]

 

[Comrade]

"I wouldn't say the plan was perfect. But it was an attempt by Jews to have the U.S. flex its muscle against a strong Arab country, an attempt that was successful."


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So the 3% of Jewish America is crafty enough to control it's government and media, discreet enough to make it seem like the democratic process, unified enough to keep it all secret, and yet can't effectively brutalize and subjugate Iraq?

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"Probably, an Islamic fundamentalist will get a stronghold in Iraq, and on the surface of it, that wouldn't be good for Zionists. But no matter."


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Well I expected you had to admit your view of Iraq's future is bad for the US and Isreal alike, you had to. What I don't understand is the how this all ties into the master Jewish plan to destroy the same fundamentalism you say the war has bred.

Saying it doesn't matter is admitting you can't explain a very key fallacy in your whole world view.


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"Whether secular or religious, the point is, "enemy of Israel," and that enemy must be crushed, even with American blood. Jews get what they want, every time. Unless we say "no.""

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I get everything I ask for, unless they say "no".

But stay on track here... either secular or religious, your saying the RACE of Jews rule American government in the shadows.

This RACE has managed to take control of the worlds greatest military and uses it to crush their enemies. These Masters of Political Subversion create a war with Iraq and somehow failed to see the coming Islamic backlash (you say) will take control.

Is that about right?

 

[Bullypulpit]

...Shoot the wounded.

Neoliberalism defined:

Shoot the wounded...Then tell them "I feel your pain."

 

[nbdysfu]

neo socialist philosophy:

"Lie La-Lie-Lie La-La-Lie-Lie-Lee" Or how does the chorus in that Simon Garfunkel song go? I think that says it all?

bp much respect to you as a male nurse. it is a profession that is in much demand and supplies much.

I think of neoconservatism as a rebirth of the original purpose of the republican party wich was borne by abolitionists, women's suffragists and other 19th century reformists and died as the democrats handicapped their efforts through aggravation of state's rights.

 

[NightTrain]

When I see such garbage claiming that the Jews control the most powerful nation ever to stride the earth, I always chuckle that the same Jews can't control a two-bit dictator right next door that's sending wave after wave of terrorists at them.

Gotta love that logic.

Great job, Comrade.

 

[jon_forward]

Originally posted by NightTrain
When I see such garbage claiming that the Jews control the most powerful nation ever to stride the earth, I always chuckle that the same Jews can't control a two-bit dictator right next door that's sending wave after wave of terrorists at them.

Gotta love that logic.

Great job, Comrade.

well said night train....these people also compare people to snakes so yea...what logic they have is flawed big time...

 

[jones]

Heres what Gore Vidal thinks[like you care unless he agrees with you!]

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/52/features-cooper.php

But then, Franklin said, it will fail, as all such constitutions have in the past, because of the essential corruption of the people. He pointed his finger at all the American people. And when the people become so corrupt, he said, we will find it is not a republic that they want but rather despotism — the only form of government suitable for such a people.

So if George W. Bush or John Ashcroft had been around in the early days of the republic, they would have been indicted and then hanged by the Founders?

No. It would have been better and worse. [Laughs.] Bush and Ashcroft would have been considered so disreputable as to not belong in this country at all. They might be invited to go down to Bolivia or Paraguay and take part in the military administration of some Spanish colony, where they would feel so much more at home. They would not be called Americans — most Americans would not think of them as citizens.

 

[jon_forward]

opinion....big deal...bitter old lonely man...he has some crystal ball...he can see, and speak for people long dead and at the sametime predict the future....

 

[jones]

Originally posted by jon_forward
opinion....big deal...bitter old lonely man...he has some crystal ball...he can see, and speak for people long dead and at the sametime predict the future....

They callem' HISTORIANS.

 

[jon_forward]

Originally posted by jones
They callem' HISTORIANS.

you need to look that word up in the dictionary and then try again....

 

[eric]

They callem' HISTORIANS

Historians record facts not opinions !

 

[jon_forward]

thank you Eric