They’ve Simply Learned To Be More….Nuanced

[Gdjjr]

This most likely was done on purpose

As was labeling themselves a Liberals- they are as far from that as you can get- the Founders were classical Liberals- the term neo liberal came about in the early 60's and their views are what is called "conservative" today- and BOTH sides of the Duopoly Party subscribe to with the only dissent being a *show* for pretentious reasons to keep citizens (voters) confused- and it's working. Neither side (politicians or voters) subscribes to securing citizens liberty- BOTH pass laws to restrict liberty- that's why there are so may federal laws they can't be counted and is estimated everyone breaks at least 3 a day-

 

[PoliticalChic]

This most likely was done on purpose

As was labeling themselves a Liberals- they are as far from that as you can get- the Founders were classical Liberals- the term neo liberal came about in the early 60's and their views are what is called "conservative" today- and BOTH sides of the Duopoly Party subscribe to with the only dissent being a *show* for pretentious reasons to keep citizens (voters) confused- and it's working. Neither side (politicians or voters) subscribes to securing citizens liberty- BOTH pass laws to restrict liberty- that's why there are so may federal laws they can't be counted and is estimated everyone breaks at least 3 a day-

Now that was close to an A+

" Neither side (politicians or voters) subscribes to securing citizens liberty- BOTH pass laws to restrict liberty- "

You lose points because you can't document that moral equivalence nonsense with this:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


More current proof is this election fraud.

 

[Gdjjr]

If you were more of a reader, you'd understand.

I read everyday- here and elsewhere- depending on the book and time I spend here reading and responding (and articles on the net) at least 3 hrs a day- try something else- and I also retain a lot of what I read along with using an online dictionary when I'm unsure- there is a lot to be read, but I also have 7 (as of day before yesterday) guitars that I attend to- don't pretend you're better than me. I don't pretend- I post what I know, blatantly (sometimes nuanced)- good, bad and/or indifferent and the really funny thing about knowledge is it evolves + it isn't biased in its origin and can manifest itself in ways unimaginable- sometimes it's nuanced sometimes not- for instance, when I opened my eyes and discovered Republican head monkeys are no different then Democrat head monkeys- they blatantly subscribe to the same thing and pretend they don't (blatantly) through sound bites and rhetoric- however, my "knowledge" gained from reading and observation through a life time of observation tells me the reuslts speak louder than the rhetoric pretense-

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republican head monkeys are no different then Democrat head monkeys- they blatantly subscribe to the same thing and pretend they don't (blatantly) through sound bites and rhetoric- however, my "knowledge" gained from reading and observation through a life time of observation tells me the reuslts speak louder than the rhetoric pretense-

"Republican head monkeys are no different then Democrat head monkeys- they blatantly subscribe to the same thing and pretend they don't (blatantly) through sound bites and rhetoric- however, my "knowledge" gained from reading and observation through a life time of observation tells me the reuslts speak louder than the rhetoric pretense- "


Well, then.....shall I await your comparable indictment of the Republicans, or shall I continue with a long and eventful life?

...you can't document that moral equivalence nonsense with this:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


As magnanimous as I am, with your well-being in mind, let me point out that I always provide the source of quotes and the documentation that would allow you to resource the books I list.

I'm certain a nice adult will help you to get a library card.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. America has been through this before. Just 100 years ago, Socialist leader Eugene Victor Debs ran for President.

There really isn’t a huge difference between their platform and the Biden Socialists.

“The Socialist platform in 1912 called for collective ownership of all means of transportation and communication and of all large-scale industry; collective ownership of land; collective ownership of the banking and currency system. And shorter working hours for workers; adequate insurance and safety rules; and the end of child labor. It favored woman’s suffrage and proposed to abolish the Senate and deny the president the veto over legislation. The Supreme Court could no longer declare laws unconstitutional, and eliminate federal district and circuit courts.”
Chace, “1912,” p. 186





To drive home the point, note that most can name Nazi concentration camps…..but I doubt very many government school grads can name a Communist one.

And that is what neo-Marxism has done: they don’t know that by every measure, Communists are worse than Nazis.




.…as Martin Amis put it, 'Bolshevism was exportable and produced near-identical results elsewhere. Nazism could not be duplicated. Compared to it, the other fascist states were simply amateurish' (Amis, Koba The Dread,2002, p. 91).
This makes communism more dangerous than Nazism.
Nazism was based on blood and nationalism, so, could not be duplicated in nations like America, which is made up of so very many nations.

But Bolshevism is here and now….called the Democrat Party.

 

[Gdjjr]

You lose points because you can't document that moral equivalence nonsense with this:

I don't pretend to have a moral equivalence to law-
there is none. Laws restrict and punish, often when no harm has been committed- that is immoral- unjust wars (wars of aggression) foreign and domestic are immoral- I advocate liberty and Justice for ALL. PERIOD. I know that Truth is constant and knowledge evolves- there are some constants (if it was true yesterday, it's true to day, and will be true tomorrow) that disdain the Truth and actually make a mockery of it- acolyte partisans in particular- I know quite well what I see- results speak for themselves- less Liberty from BOTH sides of the Duopoly Party.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You lose points because you can't document that moral equivalence nonsense with this:

I don't pretend to have a moral equivalence to law-
there is none. Laws restrict and punish, often when no harm has been committed- that is immoral- unjust wars (wars of aggression) foreign and domestic are immoral- I advocate liberty and Justice for ALL. PERIOD. I know that Truth is constant and knowledge evolves- there are some constants (if it was true yesterday, it's true to day, and will be true tomorrow) that disdain the Truth and actually make a mockery of it- acolyte partisans in particular- I know quite well what I see- results speak for themselves- less Liberty from BOTH sides of the Duopoly Party.

Nice tap-dance....but still no comparable disreputable list from the Right.


If you still have the fez and the tin cup, maybe you can get your old job with the organ grinder....

 

[Dogbiscuit]

The government schools seem to have done the job they were tasked with.

So true.
Its what influenced this, that concerns me.
Love of our country and its freedoms, seems to be diminishing in the public schools.
Another executive order pertaining to our future and freedom - School Choice.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The government schools seem to have done the job they were tasked with.

So true.
Its what influenced this, that concerns me.
Love of our country and its freedoms, seems to be diminishing in the public schools.
Another executive order pertaining to our future and freedom, School Choice.

By the BidenSocialists?????

 

[Dogbiscuit]

The government schools seem to have done the job they were tasked with.

So true.
Its what influenced this, that concerns me.
Love of our country and its freedoms, seems to be diminishing in the public schools.
Another executive order pertaining to our future and freedom, School Choice.

By the BidenSocialists?????

Surely Biden wouldnt rescind this.

 

[Theowl32]

Republican head monkeys are no different then Democrat head monkeys- they blatantly subscribe to the same thing and pretend they don't (blatantly) through sound bites and rhetoric- however, my "knowledge" gained from reading and observation through a life time of observation tells me the reuslts speak louder than the rhetoric pretense-

"Republican head monkeys are no different then Democrat head monkeys- they blatantly subscribe to the same thing and pretend they don't (blatantly) through sound bites and rhetoric- however, my "knowledge" gained from reading and observation through a life time of observation tells me the reuslts speak louder than the rhetoric pretense- "


Well, then.....shall I await your comparable indictment of the Republicans, or shall I continue with a long and eventful life?

...you can't document that moral equivalence nonsense with this:
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.


As magnanimous as I am, with your well-being in mind, let me point out that I always provide the source of quotes and the documentation that would allow you to resource the books I list.

I'm certain a nice adult will help you to get a library card.

Blackmail, greed, power.....

Any POLITICIAN that has been in office more than ONE TERM are compromised. If they aren't, they are gerrymandered out of office if they show they aren't PLAYING BALL. Meaning, if they show they are not on the take they will rarely last more than one term.

Reference Allen West, who says what means and meant what he said. About as honorable as you get and since there was no real dirt they could dig up, and since he showed he was honorable, the republican party gerrymandered him out of office. Lasted one term.

If they are career politicians where they are in office over 20 years, they are barely recognizable. Compromised beyond belief. Lolita island, let me put it that way. Do you know the democrat monkey voters think he really committed suicide? Consider how gullible you need to be to believe that.

Trump became an epic threat to the GLOBAL RESET that the left thought was going to happen under their witch hillary.

Now, on with the program. Unleash an "EPIDEMIC" make sure the death toll rises thanks to devils like cuomo, make sure it gets to America via Europe thanks to the EU who gleefully allowed to enter there with fill help with the judas Pope, and now it was set. Mass mail in ballots bs. Then when they saw Trump was going to do it again, the swing states all stopped counting at the same time. The lying press reports that claim was a lie and not to believe our "lying eyes." We all saw it. Then, all of a sudden wouldn't you know? We all saw.

While the yapping monkeys jump and giggle with their godlessness. Yes, the RINOS are all a part of it.

 

[badger2]

Post #11 seems to be having trouble with math when criticizing the term OP uses, 'we.' In fact, a frog's cyclopian eye-view from the bottom of a well compares with what Deleuze and Guattari said of the co-authorship of their books: "since each of us were several, there was really quite a crowd."

Yes, well-done posts, OP. We remember when Bork first published Slouching Toward Gomorrah.

Red is opposite to green on the color wheel.

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. There is an old saying ““We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”

The situation we find ourselves in today is because Republicans do not fit that description: in 70 years, how many socialists/Democrats who have corrupted our system and ignored our Constitution, have been punished?

How many of the coterie who are stealing this election, will suffer any consequences?





Newt Gingrich, a day late and a dollar short, on a radio interview this morning:

“I have been active since 1958, and I am the angriest I have been in those entire six decades. You have a group of corrupt people who have absolute contempt for the American people, who believe we’re so spineless, so cowardly, so unwilling to stand up for ourselves that they can steal the presidency. My hope is that President Trump will lead the millions of Americans who understand exactly what’s going on.

First of all, under federal law, we should lock up the people who are breaking the law. You block somebody from being an observer, you have just broken federal law. You hide and put up paper so that nobody can see what you are doing, you just broke federal law. You bring in ballots that are not real, you just broke federal law.

I am sick and tired of corrupt Leftwing Democrats who believe that we are too timid and too easy to intimidate that they just go out and steal it.” Gingrich: "You Are Watching An Effort To Steal The Presidency Of The United States"



Why now, Newt?

 

[Hellokitty]

....attacking where you were least prepared.

1.What is happening and has happened during this election is a tribute to the patience and fortitude of the forces of evil, and an embarrassment to the Right which, it appear, put its faith in being true and believing in rules.



2. In the current round of the eternal war, the Left has insinuated its way into every agency that disseminates information. From the 60s on. The schools, the media, entertainment.

“The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.


“The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51





3. They were allowed the motor-voter fraud wherein they registered illegal aliens to vote. Early voting. Mail-In voting. All opened the door to widespread fraud.
“…people who are not U.S. citizens were allowed to register to vote due to a glitch in Pennsylvania's electronic driver's license system,…” Philadelphia finds hundreds of illegal voters


"Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Nevada’s Secretary of State blamed the Department of Motor Vehicles voter registration process for adding people to the state voter rolls who were not U.S. Citizens.

dailycaller.com

And, Democrats make it easy:
"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election


These efforts have taken place over several generations. What has the Right done about any?




Revolution a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

sudden, radical, or complete change

a fundamental change in political organization

Definition of REVOLUTION


You expected a revolution with guns?

No wonder Monty Python was so popular.

The social media take over was the final step. Now free thought is being controlled by social/MSM and anything that slips through their grips will easily be discredited simply by calling it conspiracy, no effort will be need to prove opposing thought false.

 

[PoliticalChic]

....attacking where you were least prepared.

1.What is happening and has happened during this election is a tribute to the patience and fortitude of the forces of evil, and an embarrassment to the Right which, it appear, put its faith in being true and believing in rules.



2. In the current round of the eternal war, the Left has insinuated its way into every agency that disseminates information. From the 60s on. The schools, the media, entertainment.

“The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.


“The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51





3. They were allowed the motor-voter fraud wherein they registered illegal aliens to vote. Early voting. Mail-In voting. All opened the door to widespread fraud.
“…people who are not U.S. citizens were allowed to register to vote due to a glitch in Pennsylvania's electronic driver's license system,…” Philadelphia finds hundreds of illegal voters


"Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Nevada’s Secretary of State blamed the Department of Motor Vehicles voter registration process for adding people to the state voter rolls who were not U.S. Citizens.

dailycaller.com

And, Democrats make it easy:
"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election


These efforts have taken place over several generations. What has the Right done about any?




Revolution a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

sudden, radical, or complete change

a fundamental change in political organization

Definition of REVOLUTION


You expected a revolution with guns?

No wonder Monty Python was so popular.

The social media take over was the final step. Now free thought is being controlled by social/MSM and anything that slips through their grips will easily be discredited simply by calling it conspiracy, no effort will be need to prove opposing thought false.

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow


This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

TS Eliot, The Hollow Men

 

[Hellokitty]

....attacking where you were least prepared.

1.What is happening and has happened during this election is a tribute to the patience and fortitude of the forces of evil, and an embarrassment to the Right which, it appear, put its faith in being true and believing in rules.



2. In the current round of the eternal war, the Left has insinuated its way into every agency that disseminates information. From the 60s on. The schools, the media, entertainment.

“The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.


“The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51





3. They were allowed the motor-voter fraud wherein they registered illegal aliens to vote. Early voting. Mail-In voting. All opened the door to widespread fraud.
“…people who are not U.S. citizens were allowed to register to vote due to a glitch in Pennsylvania's electronic driver's license system,…” Philadelphia finds hundreds of illegal voters


"Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Nevada’s Secretary of State blamed the Department of Motor Vehicles voter registration process for adding people to the state voter rolls who were not U.S. Citizens.

dailycaller.com

And, Democrats make it easy:
"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election


These efforts have taken place over several generations. What has the Right done about any?




Revolution a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

sudden, radical, or complete change

a fundamental change in political organization

Definition of REVOLUTION


You expected a revolution with guns?

No wonder Monty Python was so popular.

The social media take over was the final step. Now free thought is being controlled by social/MSM and anything that slips through their grips will easily be discredited simply by calling it conspiracy, no effort will be need to prove opposing thought false.

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow


This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

TS Eliot, The Hollow Men

How long do you think it will take before we start to hear the whimper from the GOP telling us they will launch an investigation into what went wrong...so that it can never happen again?

 

[PoliticalChic]

....attacking where you were least prepared.

1.What is happening and has happened during this election is a tribute to the patience and fortitude of the forces of evil, and an embarrassment to the Right which, it appear, put its faith in being true and believing in rules.



2. In the current round of the eternal war, the Left has insinuated its way into every agency that disseminates information. From the 60s on. The schools, the media, entertainment.

“The radicals of the sixties did not remain within the universities…They realized that the apocalypse never materialized. “…they were dropping off into environmentalism and consumerism and fatalism…I watched many of my old comrades apply to graduate school in universities they had failed to burn down, so they could get advanced degrees and spread the ideas that had been discredited in the streets under an academic cover.” Collier and Horowitz, “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About The Sixties,” p. 294-295.


“The radicals were not likely to go into business or the conventional practice of the professions. They were part of the chattering class, talkers interested in policy, politics, culture. They went into politics, print and electronic journalism, church bureaucracies, foundation staffs, Hollywood careers, public interest organizations, anywhere attitudes and opinions could be influenced. And they are exerting influence.” Robert H. Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 51





3. They were allowed the motor-voter fraud wherein they registered illegal aliens to vote. Early voting. Mail-In voting. All opened the door to widespread fraud.
“…people who are not U.S. citizens were allowed to register to vote due to a glitch in Pennsylvania's electronic driver's license system,…” Philadelphia finds hundreds of illegal voters


"Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Nevada’s Secretary of State blamed the Department of Motor Vehicles voter registration process for adding people to the state voter rolls who were not U.S. Citizens.

dailycaller.com

And, Democrats make it easy:
"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election


These efforts have taken place over several generations. What has the Right done about any?




Revolution a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.

sudden, radical, or complete change

a fundamental change in political organization

Definition of REVOLUTION


You expected a revolution with guns?

No wonder Monty Python was so popular.

The social media take over was the final step. Now free thought is being controlled by social/MSM and anything that slips through their grips will easily be discredited simply by calling it conspiracy, no effort will be need to prove opposing thought false.

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow


This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

TS Eliot, The Hollow Men

How long do you think it will take before we start to hear the whimper from the GOP telling us they will launch an investigation into what went wrong...so that it can never happen again?

There is a softness on the Right that leads to defeat.

That must be what you are getting at when you mock any talk of an investigation.

 

[2aguy]

Im sure Trump's EO for free speech on college campus is gone as well.
The news, big tech, etc., back to business as usual, cranking up the Democratic Machine.
Though I believe its wrong what the Navada DMV has done, Im reading that Nevada stands a good chance of turning red, but it appears the real battle is elsewhere.
The only way America can retain its freedom is through strength and security. The left is selling out to China on both levels and that will one day be our freedoms demise. China is not messing around and half of America just voted to ignore that.
Revolution ? Maybe these are the beginning days of that. Im willing to die for our country, my childrens future and freedoms.

It won't turn red.....mail in ballots will now give the democrats every election...

 

[Gdjjr]

Nice tap-dance....but still no comparable disreputable list from the Right.

Mirror mirror on the wall- who's the most intellectually dishonest of all?

 

[Norman]

It's not over until it's over, but I have to say, it's incredible how naive the cuckservatives are if they truly believed that the election would not be stolen by pathological liars. It was obvious with the mail in bullshit.