They Said Biden Wouldn’t Come for Our Guns. The Plan Says Otherwise.

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Like most on the Right, your sense of humor is very poor. And no, I don't want to ban any weapons. You're welcome to have a fully automatic weapon if you are willing to have it infringed by some training, registration, and probably by some insurance.

It's more than that for a pre-1986 full auto, you have to get a class 3 license, place it in a trust and they are so expensive it's not longer a gun, it's an investment. But I don't think training and insurance are requirements.

Eventually you are going to realize that the only solution that will end gun violence and accidents is to ban them and confiscate them all. Are you willing to go that far for one off events?

 

[alang1216]

Do you know why LEO and soldiers discharge their weapons in anger? There is only one correct answer and it's the same answer I would give if I had to use my firearm in anger.

As a last resort?

 

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Me and the majority of Americans.

Given that gun enthusiasts cross party lines, I doubt that.

It probably all depends on how horribly worded the poll is.

 

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As a last resort?

Nope. To get the other guy to stop doing what he is doing. That's it. Of course that assumes it's being done for defensive reasons. But it could be YOUR last resort if you had one.

 

[alang1216]

Given that gun enthusiasts cross party lines, I doubt that.

It probably all depends on how horribly worded the poll is.

 

[alang1216]

Nope. To get the other guy to stop doing what he is doing. That's it. Of course that assumes it's being done for defensive reasons. But it could be YOUR last resort if you had one.

Well it wouldn't be my first resort.

 

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Well it wouldn't be my first resort.

 

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alang1216 and yours wasn't? SMH

 

[M14 Shooter]

In real life, no right is absolute.

Avoided the point, did you?
Tried to change the subject, did you?
Concession accepted.
You have no actionable complaint.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You make a good case for the rights of criminals but the right to use your car can be regulated.

Avoided the point, did you?
Tried to change the subject, did you?
Concession accepted.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There already restrictions...

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Tried to change the subject, did you?
Concession accepted.

 

[M14 Shooter]

If so, your rights are already 'infringed'.

Absolutely they are.
Fortunately these infringements are working their way through the courts are are slowly being struck, as mandated by the Constitution.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Should this then apply to the type of arms prevalent during the ratification era?

Avoided the point, did you?
Tried to change the subject, did you?
Concession accepted.
The court addressed this two decades ago. Keep up.

I just want the existing law to be effective, I don't believe they currently are.

It is already ill for criminals and those adjudicated mentally infirm to possess firearms.
How do you suggest we make it more illegal and what effect will that have?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Who lives in a 'free' society? Certainly not we in the US,

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[M14 Shooter]

Would you restrict ownership of miniguns?

Shit no.

 

[M14 Shooter]

An ounce of prevention...

Laws cannot prevent someone from breaking another law.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Does 'unfortunately' mean all the equipment I listed should be available to the public?

All of these weapons have a reasonable relationship to the preservation of the well-regulated militia, and are part of today's ordinary military equipment -- according to the SC, they are exactly the sort of weapons the 2nd was meant to protect.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I thought TX was still part of the US?

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Tried to change the subject, did you?
Concession accepted.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You're welcome to have a fully automatic weapon if you are willing to have it infringed by some training, registration, and probably by some insurance.

I am welcome to have a fully automatic weapon, period.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Criminal use? Hardly likely, but it would have been an asset in the hands of Stephen Paddock, the 2017 Las Vegas shooter.

And there's absolutely no reason he could not have used one - other than he chose not to.
Instead, he chose about the worst possible weapon he could have - and in doing so, saved lives.