They don't need a warrant. Welcome to trump's world

[pknopp]

they were called in to quell the people trying to prevent ICE from doing their job.

Chaotic ICE arrest in Worcester leads to second arrest by local police

Witnesses believe that the two women who were arrested were mother and daughter, with ICE arresting the mother and Worcester police arresting the daughter.

www.masslive.com

"At 11:15 a.m., Worcester Police Officers were called by ICE as people were surrounding the vehicle, according to Lt. J.L. Bossolt."

seems the blog the OP linked didn't mention that.

It was all a set up by ICE. There is NO defending or excusing it.

 

[dblack]

Hard to tell where she is now. When a country allows men in masks without a warrant or an obvious reason to kidnap people off the street, that country is in deep trouble.

And as it gets deeper, some people are cheering. Turns out we're going out with neither a bang, not a whimper. But rather cheering from the angry mob.

 

[Auld Phart]

Hard to tell where she is now. When a country allows men in masks without a warrant or an obvious reason to kidnap people off the street, that country is in deep trouble.

When a country allows men in masks without a warrant

where's your proof they didn't have a warrant?

because they didn't show one to Joe Schmoo, or Jill Brill, who had no need to see one?

 

[JimH52]

It was all a set up by ICE. There is NO defending or excusing it.

ICE needs to be sued. Obviously, the USSC is useless and neutered.

 

[pknopp]

where's your proof they didn't have a warrant?

because they didn't show one to Joe Schmoo, or Jill Brill, who had no need to see one?

They had NO reason to send in that many officers in riot gear to arrest one woman. That is what you are defending. An ever growing authoritarian state.

 

[dblack]

where's your proof they didn't have a warrant?

Do you think they should have had a warrant? Or do you think they don't need one?

 

[dblack]

They had NO reason to send in that many officers in riot gear to arrest one woman. That is what you are defending. An ever growing authoritarian state.

In an authoritarian state, these kinds of displays of force are what keep people in line.

 

[JimH52]

They had NO reason to send in that many officers in riot gear to arrest one woman. That is what you are defending. An ever growing authoritarian state.

Voters better wake up. The slide into authoritarianism is accelerating at an alarming rate.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Voters better wake up. The slide into authoritarianism is accelerating at an alarming rate.

and just what are you and your side doing to wake people up?...

 

[Auld Phart]

Do you think they should have had a warrant? Or do you think they don't need one?

Do you think they should have had a warrant?

Yes, of course.

but some bystander has no need to see it, unless it's their business.

Being a neighbor does not qualify, or part of a group protesting the arrest doesn't qualify.

If YOU had been there, would you have had the LEGAL right to demand to see the warrant?

 

[pknopp]

Yes, of course.

but some bystander has no need to see it, unless it's their business.

Being a neighbor does not qualify, or part of a group protesting the arrest doesn't qualify.

If YOU had been there, would you have had the LEGAL right to demand to see the warrant?

It was done to be divisive and set people against each other. No other reason.

 

[dblack]

Yes, of course.

OK. Good. Because that is the important issue. The rest was just a show.

So, would you oppose this raid if it turns out they didn't have a warrant?

but some bystander has no need to see it, unless it's their business.

Being a neighbor does not qualify, or part of a group protesting the arrest doesn't qualify.

If YOU had been there, would you have had the LEGAL right to demand to see the warrant?

If the police are acting outside of their authority, we all have an obligation to call them on it. But I get your point. Police don't have the time to appease every demand.

 

[Auld Phart]

OK. Good. Because that is the important issue. The rest was just a show.

So, would you oppose this raid if it turns out they didn't have a warrant?

If the police are acting outside of their authority, we all have an obligation to call them on it. But I get your point. Police don't have the time to appease every demand.

If the police are acting outside of their authority, we all have an obligation to call them on it.

WERE they acting outside their authority?

 

[dblack]

WERE they acting outside their authority?

Beats me. The more interesting question in my view, is how we respond to it if they are. It seems like a lot of you are ok with them acting outside their authority - because, you know, culture war!

 

[Rawley]

They don't need a warrant

A federal kidnapping in Worcester

www.welcometohellworld.com

.....And then I see the mother, a young woman in a green shirt, wailing, crying, held on either side by menacing white men in tactical vests, black neck warmers pulled over their noses in the style du jour for our secret police forces.

Surrounding them are a few dozen community members who were tipped off about the ICE raid and got to it before the police did. Before I arrived, they demanded to see a warrant. The ICE agents refused to provide one, so they created a human chain, which the ICE officers eventually broke through.

I still don't know her name or where they've taken her. The federal officials provided no information to anyone at the scene. But apparently they called the local police for backup. They felt that they were surrounded. Black Hawk Down.

Read this. This is where we are in the United States. People are being summarily kidnapped off the street and taken to who knows where. There is no warrant. There is no explanation and reasoning other than their skin is not white. This is trump at his best, inflicting paint on others.

?? THey don't need an arrest warrant.

 

[JimH52]

and just what are you and your side doing to wake people up?...

You did read the post, right? "Your side" is what trump wants to hear. He would love to see another civil wat.

 

[Rawley]

Beats me. The more interesting question in my view, is how we respond to it if they are. It seems like a lot of you are ok with them acting outside their authority - because, you know, culture war!

How were they acting outside their authority?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Welcome to Trump's fascist state of America.

Fascists are leftists facediaper, you know that.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Voters better wake up. The slide into authoritarianism is accelerating at an alarming rate.

Enforcing the law for a change is not authoritarianism, its enforcing the law jimboliar.

 

[Captain Caveman]

They don't need a warrant

A federal kidnapping in Worcester

www.welcometohellworld.com

.....And then I see the mother, a young woman in a green shirt, wailing, crying, held on either side by menacing white men in tactical vests, black neck warmers pulled over their noses in the style du jour for our secret police forces.

Surrounding them are a few dozen community members who were tipped off about the ICE raid and got to it before the police did. Before I arrived, they demanded to see a warrant. The ICE agents refused to provide one, so they created a human chain, which the ICE officers eventually broke through.

I still don't know her name or where they've taken her. The federal officials provided no information to anyone at the scene. But apparently they called the local police for backup. They felt that they were surrounded. Black Hawk Down.

Read this. This is where we are in the United States. People are being summarily kidnapped off the street and taken to who knows where. There is no warrant. There is no explanation and reasoning other than their skin is not white. This is trump at his best, inflicting paint on others.

Were they illegally in the US? Does that mean the illegals they didn't follow the law? So you're trying to weed out any possible laws law enforcement may not have followed and you defend the criminals

What a disaster you are for the US.