There is no bigger threat to American Democracy than the GOP

[bripat9643]

He did it to advance his gun control agenda. He wanted to use the ensuing mayhem to justify an assault on the 2nd Amendment.

That's ^^^ stupid, even from you when stupid is expected.

We have plenty of mayhem to justify gun controls. Every day in fact bodies testify. Of course fools - like you, or liars, like you - claim millions of lives and property are protected by guns, every day. No evidence of probity has ever been offered, but that doesn't stop the echo of this meme.

And you lie....we have shown over and over that guns in the hands of Americans actually lowers the crime rate....if actual numbers mean anything......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2016...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Public is NOT unaware of the drop in the crime rates....is is occasionally confused by your efforts at propaganda.

That said, guns kill far more people every year than all illegal drugs combined....

Wrong......just wrong...

Did you even look into this before you posted.....

gun murder in 2015...

10,616

Accidental gun deaths 2015

489

Now tell us how many died from illegal drugs....

33.000 firearms related deaths, on average 2012-14......

The Moonie Times claims 20,000 from Illegal Drugs in 2015.....you got to read a bit before they admit that nearly half are from synthetic opiods.....which are NOT "Illegal Drugs"

The mounting death toll from illicit drugs

2/3 of firearms deaths are suicides, and are therefore not relevant. I notice you left out that statistic. That's typical snowflake behavior: ignoring anything that doesn't support the narrative.

 

[bripat9643]

Whatever the hell "flamed out" is supposed to mean. Since it has no definite meaning, you would characterize anything he did as "flaming out."

Flaming out means to fail which you Canadians do on a regular bases.

So you believe Obama and the entire Dim party "flamed out?"

You gonna argue with the Evidence again, Meathead?

The evidence shows that Obama and the Dims are enormous failures. Obamacare is sufficient proof of that. Your belief that Obama was a success is the proof that you're a dumbass snowflake.

Do you want me to get those charts of The Evidence, Meathead?

You have charts showing Obamacare is a success? Yes, I would like to see these fantasies.

 

[2aguy]

And you lie....we have shown over and over that guns in the hands of Americans actually lowers the crime rate....if actual numbers mean anything......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2016...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Public is NOT unaware of the drop in the crime rates....is is occasionally confused by your efforts at propaganda.

That said, guns kill far more people every year than all illegal drugs combined....

Here...actual numbers on illegal drug deaths....

CDC Press Releases

This is just heroin.....

In addition, heroin-related death rates increased 26 percent from 2013–2014, totaling 10,574 deaths in 2014.

Notice...total gun deaths in 2015......10,102

Then add in the other illegal drug deaths and you aren't even close....twit...

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

 

[2aguy]

That's ^^^ stupid, even from you when stupid is expected.

We have plenty of mayhem to justify gun controls. Every day in fact bodies testify. Of course fools - like you, or liars, like you - claim millions of lives and property are protected by guns, every day. No evidence of probity has ever been offered, but that doesn't stop the echo of this meme.

And you lie....we have shown over and over that guns in the hands of Americans actually lowers the crime rate....if actual numbers mean anything......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2016...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Public is NOT unaware of the drop in the crime rates....is is occasionally confused by your efforts at propaganda.

That said, guns kill far more people every year than all illegal drugs combined....

Wrong......just wrong...

Did you even look into this before you posted.....

gun murder in 2015...

10,616

Accidental gun deaths 2015

489

Now tell us how many died from illegal drugs....

33.000 firearms related deaths, on average 2012-14......

The Moonie Times claims 20,000 from Illegal Drugs in 2015.....you got to read a bit before they admit that nearly half are from synthetic opiods.....which are NOT "Illegal Drugs"

The mounting death toll from illicit drugs

2/3 of firearms deaths are suicides, and are therefore not relevant. I notice you left out that statistic. That's typical snowflake behavior: ignoring anything that doesn't support the narrative.

Wrong word...he wasn't ignoring the fact that over 22,000 deaths were suicides...he was lying.....

 

[IcebergSlim]

Never mind that....did you LEARN anything, Toddster?

I learned not to take liberal hysteria seriously.

What is "hysterical" about foreign intelligence services finding Trump flunkies playing footsies with Russian kleptocrats and mafiosi?

Do you think before you reflexively avert your eyes?

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

 

[bripat9643]

1. Voter suppression

2. Gerrymandering

3. Enormous transfer of wealth from the Middle Class to the top 1% (see Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, the current 600 billion tax cut plan for billionaires)

4. Racism

5. GOP litmus test on many issues

6. The embrace of Fascism.

7. The threat to women's rights

8. The anti middle class judiciary

9. Anti science

10. Disregard for the constitution

11. Donald Trump
a. Some Mexicans don't rape, a Mexican can't be a judge and similar racist statements.

b. More pro Russia than the Kremlin

c. Incompetence

d. Disregard for the constitution

----------------
You can flesh out any of these topics. There is simply an overwhelming amount of material and facts that the GOP is America's greatest threat. Russia is probably second, and North Korea a distant third.

And the list of who the GOP hates seems to grow daily.

Top Ten:

1. Gays
2. Blacks
3. Muslims
4. Jews
5. Hispanics
6. Liberals
7. Women's rights
8. Atheists
9. Reporters
10. College professors and scientists

And Trump's followers are so bold. No longer hiding in the shadow's. But bold, front and center:

You actually listed the democrat party platform and activities log........

Are you sure about that?

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/themes/rpt/images/2012Platform_Final.pdf
REPUBLICAN PARTY OF TEXAS

There is nothing more fun than reading GOP Party State Platforms.

Those are all code words for leftwing indoctrination. Lefties always mislabel their propaganda so they can claim they are on the side of truth and righteousness.

The last thing I want is some commie teacher "clarifying" my child's values.

The last thing ANYONE wants is for you to be procreating, Bri.......

ROFL! I think you are on a lot of people's list for the last person they want procreating.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I learned not to take liberal hysteria seriously.

What is "hysterical" about foreign intelligence services finding Trump flunkies playing footsies with Russian kleptocrats and mafiosi?

Do you think before you reflexively avert your eyes?

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

I went quiet over Clinton's failure to kill Osama?
Where?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Public is NOT unaware of the drop in the crime rates....is is occasionally confused by your efforts at propaganda.

That said, guns kill far more people every year than all illegal drugs combined....

Here...actual numbers on illegal drug deaths....

CDC Press Releases

This is just heroin.....

In addition, heroin-related death rates increased 26 percent from 2013–2014, totaling 10,574 deaths in 2014.

Notice...total gun deaths in 2015......10,102

Then add in the other illegal drug deaths and you aren't even close....twit...

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

 

[bripat9643]

I learned not to take liberal hysteria seriously.

What is "hysterical" about foreign intelligence services finding Trump flunkies playing footsies with Russian kleptocrats and mafiosi?

Do you think before you reflexively avert your eyes?

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

Apparently you believe there was some kind of intelligible idea conveyed in that mess.

 

[IcebergSlim]

What is "hysterical" about foreign intelligence services finding Trump flunkies playing footsies with Russian kleptocrats and mafiosi?

Do you think before you reflexively avert your eyes?

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

I went quiet over Clinton's failure to kill Osama?
Where?

Geez, Toddster........

Did you ever acknowledge that your video was NOT evidence of the Sudan hoax?

 

[bripat9643]

Here...actual numbers on illegal drug deaths....

CDC Press Releases

This is just heroin.....

In addition, heroin-related death rates increased 26 percent from 2013–2014, totaling 10,574 deaths in 2014.

Notice...total gun deaths in 2015......10,102

Then add in the other illegal drug deaths and you aren't even close....twit...

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

If someone wants to kill himself, what makes a firearm any worse than any other means?

 

[IcebergSlim]

What is "hysterical" about foreign intelligence services finding Trump flunkies playing footsies with Russian kleptocrats and mafiosi?

Do you think before you reflexively avert your eyes?

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

Apparently you believe there was some kind of intelligible idea conveyed in that mess.

Remember me telling you, repeatedly, that you are a moron?

You need to learn to listen.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

I went quiet over Clinton's failure to kill Osama?
Where?

Geez, Toddster........

Did you ever acknowledge that your video was NOT evidence of the Sudan hoax?

Was it evidence that Clinton failed to kill Osama? LOL!

 

[2aguy]

Here...actual numbers on illegal drug deaths....

CDC Press Releases

This is just heroin.....

In addition, heroin-related death rates increased 26 percent from 2013–2014, totaling 10,574 deaths in 2014.

Notice...total gun deaths in 2015......10,102

Then add in the other illegal drug deaths and you aren't even close....twit...

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

So now that your illegal drug number was shown to be higher than actual gun deaths due to murder and accidents, minus suicides.......now you move on to innaccurate data on nonfatal injuries.....

Here you go...actual data....

From the CDC...genius....

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....

2001.... 17,696

2002... 17,579

2003... 18,941

2004... 16,555

2005... 15,388

2006... 14,678

2007... 15,698

2008... 17,215

2009... 18,610

2010... 14,161

2011... 14,675

2012... 17,362

2013... 16,864

2014..... 15,928

2015... 17,311

Non fatal gun injury stats from 1993......

Nonfatal and Fatal Firearm-Related Injuries -- United States, 1993-1997
1993... 104,390
1994... 89,744
1995... 84,322
1996... 69,649
1997... 64,207
Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries --- United States, 1993--1998
1998... 79,384
WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

 

[2aguy]

Tell me more about "collusion".
LOL!

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

Apparently you believe there was some kind of intelligible idea conveyed in that mess.

Remember me telling you, repeatedly, that you are a moron?

You need to learn to listen.

Posts the guy whose numbers are inaccurate and false.....

 

[IcebergSlim]

1. Voter suppression

2. Gerrymandering

3. Enormous transfer of wealth from the Middle Class to the top 1% (see Bush Tax Cuts for the rich, the current 600 billion tax cut plan for billionaires)

4. Racism

5. GOP litmus test on many issues

6. The embrace of Fascism.

7. The threat to women's rights

8. The anti middle class judiciary

9. Anti science

10. Disregard for the constitution

11. Donald Trump
a. Some Mexicans don't rape, a Mexican can't be a judge and similar racist statements.

b. More pro Russia than the Kremlin

c. Incompetence

d. Disregard for the constitution

----------------
You can flesh out any of these topics. There is simply an overwhelming amount of material and facts that the GOP is America's greatest threat. Russia is probably second, and North Korea a distant third.

And the list of who the GOP hates seems to grow daily.

Top Ten:

1. Gays
2. Blacks
3. Muslims
4. Jews
5. Hispanics
6. Liberals
7. Women's rights
8. Atheists
9. Reporters
10. College professors and scientists

And Trump's followers are so bold. No longer hiding in the shadow's. But bold, front and center:

You actually listed the democrat party platform and activities log........

Are you sure about that?

Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
http://www.texasgop.org/wp-content/themes/rpt/images/2012Platform_Final.pdf
REPUBLICAN PARTY OF TEXAS

There is nothing more fun than reading GOP Party State Platforms.

Those are all code words for leftwing indoctrination. Lefties always mislabel their propaganda so they can claim they are on the side of truth and righteousness.

The last thing I want is some commie teacher "clarifying" my child's values.

The last thing ANYONE wants is for you to be procreating, Bri.......

ROFL! I think you are on a lot of people's list for the last person they want procreating.

Bri,

If I was in your blood, your life would be completely different.......

For one, you wouldn't look like a pork roast with ears stapled to it....

 

[2aguy]

Here...actual numbers on illegal drug deaths....

CDC Press Releases

This is just heroin.....

In addition, heroin-related death rates increased 26 percent from 2013–2014, totaling 10,574 deaths in 2014.

Notice...total gun deaths in 2015......10,102

Then add in the other illegal drug deaths and you aren't even close....twit...

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

Here...2015...non-fatal injuries....from the CDC...one year..so you don't get confused....

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports
17,311

 

[IcebergSlim]

Opioid overdose deaths, including both opioid pain relievers and heroin, hit record levels in 2014, with an alarming 14 percent increase in just one year, according to new data published today in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The most commonly prescribed opioid pain relievers, those classified as natural or semi-synthetic opioids such as oxycodone and hydrocodone, continue to be involved in more overdose deaths than any other opioid type. These deaths increased by 9 percent (813 more deaths in 2014 than 2013).

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

So now that your illegal drug number was shown to be higher than actual gun deaths due to murder and accidents, minus suicides.......now you move on to innaccurate data on nonfatal injuries.....

Here you go...actual data....

From the CDC...genius....

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....

2001.... 17,696

2002... 17,579

2003... 18,941

2004... 16,555

2005... 15,388

2006... 14,678

2007... 15,698

2008... 17,215

2009... 18,610

2010... 14,161

2011... 14,675

2012... 17,362

2013... 16,864

2014..... 15,928

2015... 17,311

Non fatal gun injury stats from 1993......

Nonfatal and Fatal Firearm-Related Injuries -- United States, 1993-1997
1993... 104,390
1994... 89,744
1995... 84,322
1996... 69,649
1997... 64,207
Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries --- United States, 1993--1998
1998... 79,384
WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

No one said anything about adjusting for suicide, lying idiot.....that's YOUR ruse.....

You lied about gun related deaths, trimming the actual number by a random category.....then you DOUBLED the number of deaths attributable to Illegal Drugs by INCLUDING LEGAL drugs....

Because you are a lying dope like that.....

 

[2aguy]

Here ....gun murder 2015...

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

Gun murder....9,616

Accidental gun death...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824


Suicide....


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...
22,018
Non Gun suicide...
22,078
---------

2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

We are comparing gun deaths to those resulting from use of Illegal Drugs......try to focus....

Yeah....and I showed you heroin deaths.....just one actual illegal drugs....you showed opioids which may or may not have been legal, prescription drugs......added to heroin deaths and your numbers get worse.....

Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens),[2][3] and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens).[4] These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".[4]

So now that your illegal drug number was shown to be higher than actual gun deaths due to murder and accidents, minus suicides.......now you move on to innaccurate data on nonfatal injuries.....

Here you go...actual data....

From the CDC...genius....

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....

2001.... 17,696

2002... 17,579

2003... 18,941

2004... 16,555

2005... 15,388

2006... 14,678

2007... 15,698

2008... 17,215

2009... 18,610

2010... 14,161

2011... 14,675

2012... 17,362

2013... 16,864

2014..... 15,928

2015... 17,311

Non fatal gun injury stats from 1993......

Nonfatal and Fatal Firearm-Related Injuries -- United States, 1993-1997
1993... 104,390
1994... 89,744
1995... 84,322
1996... 69,649
1997... 64,207
Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries --- United States, 1993--1998
1998... 79,384
WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

No one said anything about adjusting for suicide, lying idiot.....that's YOUR ruse.....

You lied about gun related deaths, trimming the actual number by a random category.....then you DOUBLED the number of deaths attributable to Illegal Drugs by INCLUDING LEGAL drugs....

Because you are a lying dope like that.....

Can you actually read.......my link to the drug stat was just heroin...I LEFT OUT the other opioids since they could have been prescription meds.....moron...

 

[IcebergSlim]

You think they were a Mahjong cult?

Now we're only left to determine the price...

No, the lefties whining and grasping for a reason Hillary lost do not play Mahjong.

And what would foreign intelligence services know about any of that in 2015?


EVERY ******* CLICHE!


Stay Useful, Todd....

btw, you went awful quiet over the Clinton thingy.......Here's some ice for that......

And you spent YEARS thinking that you had this nailed....all you had to do was actually watch the ******* video.....

But you took someone's word for it, didn't you?

I went quiet over Clinton's failure to kill Osama?
Where?

Geez, Toddster........

Did you ever acknowledge that your video was NOT evidence of the Sudan hoax?

Was it evidence that Clinton failed to kill Osama? LOL!

It was yet more dispositive evidence that you are a Useful Idiot.......