There are 28.5 times more White Americans with a 130 IQ than in all of India - India has over 1.4 billion people and only 280k people over 130 IQ

[JoeB131]

Thats you reason for hiring scabs with turbans

Why should most Americans, myself and excalibur included, be ok with it?

If you want to get hired, prove to an employer you are worth hiring.

 

[Mac-7]

Then they [H-1B visa holder] can get a visa for their spouse, children parents.

Exactly

Chain migration is a blight on our society

 

[JoeB131]

Exactly

Chain migration is a blight on our society

Quite the contrary, we are getting the benefit of these immigrants, who unlike white Americans, have drive.

 

[Mac-7]

Quite the contrary, we are getting the benefit of these immigrants, who unlike white Americans, have drive.

A few do

But an 80-year old immigrant is no asset to America

 

[JoeB131]

A few do

But an 80-year old immigrant is no asset to America

Neither is an 80-year-old native born citizen.

We should put people to sleep on their 80th birthday.

We can start on June 16th.

 

[Hafar1014]

Quite the contrary, we are getting the benefit of these immigrants, who unlike white Americans, have drive.

Yes like more crime low wages high rents 50% are on welfare fraud like we see in Minn. No thanks

 

[22lcidw]

Quite the contrary, we are getting the benefit of these immigrants, who unlike white Americans, have drive.

What has happened is that we have become a bullshit society. We see the talkers every day and there are countless millions of them getting paid for it. Progressive Socialist Communist Extreme Feminist Women. Sniff it. More and more men are growing tired of this. They are increasingly seeing the tendrils of these demonic harpies interfering in their lives. They even screw over their own children in education with their wild fantasies of how the world should be run. You break everyone down into groups. Well, there are a large number of lesbians involved in power with a high percentage very butch in that huge feminist group. The white oy is a sucker now. Paying for all of this. And he knows it. And the simmering is increasing. If he was unreasonable civil discourse would have happened some years ago. We have to many people from too many directions pulling at all sides of each of us for their attention and approval. The middle east is just one of them.

 

[Hafar1014]

What has happened is that we have become a bullshit society. We see the talkers every day and there are countless millions of them getting paid for it. Progressive Socialist Communist Extreme Feminist Women. Sniff it. More and more men are growing tired of this. They are increasingly seeing the tendrils of these demonic harpies interfering in their lives. They even screw over their own children in education with their wild fantasies of how the world should be run. You break everyone down into groups. Well, there are a large number of lesbians involved in power with a high percentage very butch in that huge feminist group. The white oy is a sucker now. Paying for all of this. And he knows it. And the simmering is increasing. If he was unreasonable civil discourse would have happened some years ago. We have to many people from too many directions pulling at all sides of each of us for their attention and approval. The middle east is just one of them.

Stability in the ME and the deposing of Irans regime is vital for world stability

 

[drudge X]

Quite the contrary, we are getting the benefit of these immigrants, who unlike white Americans, have drive.

The caste system is still in place in India. Only the well off can attend universities for higher learning.

Aside from that you cannot be supporting chain migration while saying American workers aren’t paid a decent wage.

Indians are willing to work for less, sometimes half. This is where the leftist hypocrisy comes to light.

 

[Mac-7]

Neither is an 80-year-old native born citizen.

We should put people to sleep on their 80th birthday.

We can start on June 16th.

I dont equate immigrants to native born citizens

If we let someone come here and such up our welfare system they have to add value

These hangers-on are a drain on our country

I bet you personally know a few within arms reach right now

 

[drudge X]

Yes like more crime low wages high rents 50% are on welfare fraud like we see in Minn. No thanks

Most Indians here have higher IQ and work although, they have the cheapskate reputation.

As for family cohesion, they have a strong bond. Family members would pool their earnings to buy a house and car. This is why Indians have the highest household income in the country. Filipinos also have high household income as they too tend to stick together. They are willing to do menial jobs and pool the family income.

As for fraud, that's a Somali specialty. 10 years living in this country while contributing near nothing but collecting government handouts.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

H1-B is a very simple program that was never intended to displace American workers. In fact, the employer must demonstrate that no American is available in order to have the H1-B visa approved.

They just make up bizarre job requirements, custom designed for the foreign guy they want. It's not hard.

They even lie about the jobs, even for low skilled farm labor jobs.

Silence in the Fields

The U.S. government is allowing farmers to fill thousands of jobs with foreign 'guestworkers.' The conditions are hardly hospitable -- but those who speak out can be sent straight back home.

www.motherjones.com

In theory, Madrigal and his co-workers are being brought to the United States because there’s no one else to do the job. Before receiving H-2A workers, farmers must advertise for American workers both locally and nationally, and then receive certification from the U.S. Department of Labor that there’s a scarcity of available labor. Even after guestworkers arrive, employers must hire any qualified, legal U.S. resident who applies for a job during the first half of the growing season.


Although the process is designed to ensure American workers get first crack at any jobs, only a handful wind up being hired. According to growers, that’s because few apply. “The unemployment rate is at a 30-year low,” says Stan Eury. “It doesn’t take an analyst to show you there’s a labor shortage. Anyone who says there’s not is an absolute idiot.” Farmwork, he adds, “operates at the bottom rung of the job ladder, and in a time of strong employment, those bottom rungs are the first vacated.”


In fact, study after study of the H-2A program concludes that there’s actually a surplus of agricultural labor, not a shortage. “Unemployment and underemployment are endemic among farmworkers,” says one Labor Department report. “Even at the seasonal peak in September, one-third of farmworkers are still not working in U.S. agriculture.” In studies and congressional testimony about the program, the General Accounting Office also dismisses the idea of a labor shortage. “Agricultural employers in most of the United States have had adequate supplies of labor for many years and continue to do so,” the GAO reports.


The agency acknowledges that some regions do experience local shortages, but notes that those might be alleviated “with fairly modest wage increases.” Instead, H-2A enables farmers — from small operators to corporate giants employing more than 600 workers — to effectively circumvent the free market, paying guestworkers as little as $6.39 an hour rather than raising hourly wages to attract U.S. workers. “A lot of farmers say, ‘I advertised for 300 jobs and no one applied,'” says Thom Myers, a farmworker advocate in Raleigh, North Carolina. “But what about the guy who runs a hardware store who has the same argument? What about the guy who runs a restaurant? If this was any other industry, the government would say, ‘Hey, raise your pay until the supply and demand curves cross.'”


Rather than pay market wages, H-2A growers have instead developed a litany of schemes to ward off domestic workers. In Idaho, the Snake River Farmer’s Association urged its members to write backbreaking job descriptions to discourage Americans from applying. “Irrigators or pipe movers is a great job description because no one wants to move pipe,” explains an association handout. Farmers in other states have turned away U.S. residents for being a few minutes late for interviews, or for not knowing the fine points of federal labor law. In North Carolina, the Growers Association says it hires domestic workers after a simple five-minute phone interview — but state officials describe the process as intentionally inefficient and even hostile. “They go out of their way to discourage local workers from seeking employment,” Lee Albritton, a former job-service employee, wrote in a memo to his supervisors. In 1999, the state found jobs on non-H-2A farms for 12,700 domestic workers. By contrast, on H-2A farms, the state found jobs for only seven workers.


To further discourage U.S. workers, growers often refuse to provide migrant crews the same kind of transportation they offer H-2A workers. “Farmers know that unless there’s travel money involved, no large number of domestic workers will get to the job site,” says Greg Schell, an attorney at Florida’s Migrant Farmworker Justice Project. “If they send a bus to the Rio Grande Valley or Belle Glade, Florida, they can get thousands of experienced farmworkers. But without a bus, the job may as well be on Mars.”

 

[JoeB131]

The caste system is still in place in India. Only the well off can attend universities for higher learning.

Aside from that you cannot be supporting chain migration while saying American workers aren’t paid a decent wage.

Indians are willing to work for less, sometimes half. This is where the leftist hypocrisy comes to light.

Sure I can.

We need immigrants because we have a worker shortage.

You are also kind of mistaken about just the "Well-Off" going to university. If you knew anything about Desi culture, you'd know a large group of Indian immigrants are Gujarati. Basically, anyone with the family name of "Patel" (including our disgrace of an FBI director) is a Gujarati.

In India, they are a discriminated against group, but here with the social limits off, they do very well, starting businesses and getting degrees.