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The Worst?? Move Over, Carter and Buchanan!!
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JQPublic1
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Yes, I do, and you are about to find out how much YOU DON"T KNOW! EGADS, WHAT AN IDIOT. Can anyone over 65, YOU, not know these elementary facts? I am truly amazed!
· The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the
· Not one
· Not a single one of the 56
· In 1866
· George Wallace was a Conservative Democrat.
· Bull Connor was a Conservative Democrat.
· Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Conservative Democratic Party.
Yep Liberals fought against lynching and conservatives fought to keep it alive.
Here is something even more amusing. You neo-conservatives try to distance yourselves from all the racism and bigotry and intolerance fomented by old time Conservative Democrats but you are one and the same. Sure, there are still some Conservative Democrats but Goldwater led many of the fold to the Republicans back in '64. And today, every White racist supremacy group in America is aligned with the GOP. How do you explain THAT, TOOTS?
It seems you have been inculcated with all sorts of anecdotal nonsense that keeps you constantly at variance with real historical facts such as:
AT the beginning of the 1960s conservatives were in a better position than at any time since the 1930s to challenge moderate Republicans for control of the party. But large obstacles remained. Not only were conservatives widely viewed as wild-eyed fanatics but they squabbled among themselves, had trouble articulating a positive program of reform, had few grassroots organizations, and lacked the funding to make the movement a serious political force.
The Conservative 1960s
The Dixiecrats were Conservative Democrats.
The muddle headed poor and middle class people who vote against their own interests have been exploited by conservatives for decades if not centuries.. The views of life long Conservatives is what concerns me, not party affiliation. Both parties have conservative elements but those in the GOP, consisting mostly of RW White males are the most intolerant and dangerous. That brand of conservatism is based in the hegemonic morass of intolerance and exclusion…just like your Muslim counterparts…Yes, they are conservatives too.
And since you are the DAWG ( Dumb Ass Western Gal) I suggest you lower your paws. You've been tamed!
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Twenty million Americans now have insurance thanks to Obamacare
What ever happened to that Republican plan to replace it?
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Obama said it was a stupid mistake....that is why he is President
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PoliticalChic
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And here you are proving exactly what I wrote: the fairy tale that somehow Democrats suddenly decided that they were pro-civil rights.....and Republicans decided that they were anti-civil rights.....
a tale so absurd that only folks as stupid as you would believe it.
· In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.
· George Wallace was a Democrat.
· Bull Connor was a Democrat.
Segregationists Lyndon Johnson, Al Gore, Sr., Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox (they supported Jimmy Carter), KKKer Hugo Black- appointed to the Supreme Court by Franklin Roosevelt, Sam Ervin, William Fulbright,....
...and, to bring it right up to today......Bill 'the rapist' Clinton.
Every one a Democrat.
Language is important, so in any discussion of who the segregationists were, liberals switch the word “Democrats” to “southerners” or 'conservative.
But it is a diaphanous lie.
The were always Democrats and remain so....just as you are a moron and will always remains so.
Remember, the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was supported by all the Republicans in the Senate, but only 29 of 47 Democrats…and a number of the ‘segregationist’ Democrats were northern Dems (Oregon, Washington, Montana, and Wyoming). Not southerners: Democrats.
See chapter 12 of Coulter's book "Mugged"....if you ever read a book.
And you vote for them.
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You are an incorrigible, obstinate fool. Your denial leads me to believe you are bereft of common sense and reading comprehension. Right here before God and everybody you are attempting to refute documented proof that Southern Democrats were conservatives. Look, babs, revising history isn't going to do much for anyone who can simply compare the red states of today with the Blue states of 1960. You are digging yourself a hole too deep to get out of.
How the South Became Republican: It’s About Race
PoliticalChic
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Never happened.
Democrats are and have always been the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.
FDR disparaged minorities....blacks, Jews and Asians.
Bill 'the rapist' Clinton....honored and feted (did you look it up?) segregationists throughout his entire political life.
And you are,and will always be....a dunce.
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You posted it. Conservatives republicans in 1960 and the 30s...and all Pro civil rights....thanks for making that clear......
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Yep according to the left only 19 conservative republicans in.the house and 0 in the Senate in 1957.
Yep that's accurate......whahahahahahahahahaha
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History Lesson: Racist Democrats and the Big Lie
"In order to escape their truly wretched past (click on the link for my short book on the subject), modern Democrats have adopted as an article of faith the bedtime story that, thanks to Tricky Dick Nixon's "southern strategy," the racists who had been the backbone of their party for the better part of a century suddenly switched to the GOP en masse some time around 1968, with the happy result that now all the racists are on the right. Presto -- instant virtuousness and a clean slate!
It's a lie, of course."
"Worse than the myth and the cliché is the outright lie, the utter fabrication with malice aforethought, and my nominee for the worst of them is the popular but indefensible belief that the two major U.S. political parties somehow “switched places” vis-à-vis protecting the rights of black Americans, a development believed to be roughly concurrent with the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the rise of Richard Nixon. That Republicans have let Democrats get away with this mountebankery is a symptom of their political fecklessness, and in letting them get away with it the GOP has allowed itself to be cut off rhetorically from a pantheon of Republican political heroes, from Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass to Susan B. Anthony, who represent an expression of conservative ideals as true and relevant today as it was in the 19th century. Perhaps even worse, the Democrats have been allowed to rhetorically bury their Bull Connors, their longstanding affiliation with the Ku Klux Klan, and their pitiless opposition to practically every major piece of civil-rights legislation for a century. "
"And yet this myth persists -- in fact, it's just about the only response today's Democrats have to their own sordid history: pinning it on the other guy. It makes them profoundly uncomfortable that among the 21 who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 can be found Albert Arnold Gore, Sr., the founder of the Hillbilly Dynasty; Robert "KKK" Byrd, the Conscience of the Senate; and Sleepin' Sam Ervin of Watergate fame."
"In order to escape their truly wretched past (click on the link for my short book on the subject), modern Democrats have adopted as an article of faith the bedtime story that, thanks to Tricky Dick Nixon's "southern strategy," the racists who had been the backbone of their party for the better part of a century suddenly switched to the GOP en masse some time around 1968, with the happy result that now all the racists are on the right. Presto -- instant virtuousness and a clean slate!
It's a lie, of course."
"Worse than the myth and the cliché is the outright lie, the utter fabrication with malice aforethought, and my nominee for the worst of them is the popular but indefensible belief that the two major U.S. political parties somehow “switched places” vis-à-vis protecting the rights of black Americans, a development believed to be roughly concurrent with the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the rise of Richard Nixon. That Republicans have let Democrats get away with this mountebankery is a symptom of their political fecklessness, and in letting them get away with it the GOP has allowed itself to be cut off rhetorically from a pantheon of Republican political heroes, from Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass to Susan B. Anthony, who represent an expression of conservative ideals as true and relevant today as it was in the 19th century. Perhaps even worse, the Democrats have been allowed to rhetorically bury their Bull Connors, their longstanding affiliation with the Ku Klux Klan, and their pitiless opposition to practically every major piece of civil-rights legislation for a century. "
"And yet this myth persists -- in fact, it's just about the only response today's Democrats have to their own sordid history: pinning it on the other guy. It makes them profoundly uncomfortable that among the 21 who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 can be found Albert Arnold Gore, Sr., the founder of the Hillbilly Dynasty; Robert "KKK" Byrd, the Conscience of the Senate; and Sleepin' Sam Ervin of Watergate fame."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=0
"Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members — and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a “Southern strategy” that championed “states’ rights.”
It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)
The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.
To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.”
"Everyone knows that race has long played a decisive role in Southern electoral politics. From the end of Reconstruction until the beginning of the civil rights era, the story goes, the national Democratic Party made room for segregationist members — and as a result dominated the South. But in the 50s and 60s, Democrats embraced the civil rights movement, costing them the white Southern vote. Meanwhile, the Republican Party successfully wooed disaffected white racists with a “Southern strategy” that championed “states’ rights.”
It’s an easy story to believe, but this year two political scientists called it into question. In their book “The End of Southern Exceptionalism,” Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth. In the postwar era, they note, the South transformed itself from a backward region to an engine of the national economy, giving rise to a sizable new wealthy suburban class. This class, not surprisingly, began to vote for the party that best represented its economic interests: the G.O.P. Working-class whites, however — and here’s the surprise — even those in areas with large black populations, stayed loyal to the Democrats. (This was true until the 90s, when the nation as a whole turned rightward in Congressional voting.)
The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.
To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.”
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You keep referring to all the souther atrocities committed upon Blacks and other minorities in the past and you say Democrats perpetrated all of that. I don't think the democratic party sanctioned any of that,but we do know that violence, bigotry and intolerance are the hallmarks of American conservatism.. That being said:the political color of Democrats is blue. Now, look at your political map and make notes of the locations where slavery was instituted, locate the states where Jim Crow flourished and note the states where Byrd, Wallace, Clinton and "Bull" Connor came from. Still with me? Looking at a modern political map, those states are mostly red states, which, for the mentally challenged, like you, means that territory is now Republican controlled. But don't stop there. There are myriad resources to consult. Countless libraries and books validate the reality of conservative Southern Democrats. I am not talking about the Dixiecrats, I am talking about the general southern Democratic electorate that brought their conservatism into the Republican Party starting way back in 1948 after Truman integrated the armed Forces.
Before that,however,this is the democratic powerhouse of 1948 geographically:
AND THIS IS TODAY:
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PoliticalChic
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You keep referring to all the souther atrocities committed upon Blacks and other minorities in the past and you say Democrats perpetrated all of that. I don't think the democratic party sanctioned any of that,but we do know that violence, bigotry and intolerance are the hallmarks of American conservatism.. That being said:the political color of Democrats is blue. Now, look at your political map and make notes of the locations where slavery was instituted, locate the states where Jim Crow flourished and note the states where Byrd, Wallace, Clinton and "Bull" Connor came from. Still with me? Looking at a modern political map, those states are mostly red states, which, for the mentally challenged, like you, means that territory is now Republican controlled. But don't stop there. There are myriad resources to consult. Countless libraries and books validate the reality of conservative Southern Democrats. I am not talking about the Dixiecrats, I am talking about the general southern Democratic electorate that brought their conservatism into the Republican Party starting way back in 1948 after Truman integrated the armed Forces.
Before that,however,this is the democratic powerhouse of 1948 geographically:
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AND THIS IS TODAY:
"You keep referring to all the souther atrocities committed upon Blacks and other minorities in the past and you say Democrats perpetrated all of that. I don't think the democratic party sanctioned any of that...."
Of course they did.....as I proved several times over.
I'm really enjoying how uncomfortable, how embarrassed I've made you about your affiliation with the party of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship for minorities.
Best part...your 'is not, isss noottttt!' posts have allowed me to point to exactly the sort of low level mythology that the truly stupid....you.....have been trained to accept.
Did you notice that you have been unable to deny any of the facts I've provided?
Bet readers have.
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All but those unable to read critically understand what President Clinton meant by this comment. That you do not is both pitiful and hilarious.
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No...we know your racist democrat fucktards get it....you just blew your dog whistle a bit too loud and we heard it.....
PoliticalChic
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“A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.”
Bill Clinton made insensitive ‘race jab’ about Obama in 2008 | New York Post
Everybody understands what Clinton mean: he was stating that those with dark skins must perform menial tasks for their masters.
And...he yearned for a return to those days.
After all....he's a Democrat.
Everybody know that....and anyone who has cast a critical eye on Democrat history, and especially Bill 'the rapist' Clinton's political history knows he spent it honoring segregationists, racists, and those that believe as he does.
And suck-ups like you pretend otherwise.
Your twelve-step should begin: "I ____________ am a liar and a low-life..."
Best of luck on your recovery.
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I have no need for a dog whistle, my dog is a border collie and much smarter than the average conservatives who post on this message board. Looking into her eyes one can see thought and intelligence, reading your words one sees incipient obtuseness.
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What a stupid interpretation of what Clinton said
But coming from a conservative, it is the best we can expect
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