"The wealthiest in this country do not pay their fair share." [Bernie Sanders]

[Nostra]

Not when the oligarchs pay a lower % than the average person. Are you calling a Warren Buffet a liar?

You are so full of shit.

 

[Nostra]

Not when the oligarchs pay a lower % than the average person. Are you calling a Warren Buffet a liar?

More facts proving you are a lying sack of vermin shit.

Average Effective Federal Income Tax Rates by Income Group​

The most recent IRS data, covering tax year 2022 and published by the Tax Foundation in 2025, shows a clear staircase pattern. The numbers below reflect federal income tax only and do not include payroll taxes, state taxes, or other levies.

• Bottom 50% (AGI below $50,339): average effective rate of 3.7%, with an average tax bill of $822.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>
• Top 25% to 10% (AGI roughly $96,044 to $178,611): average effective rate around 9% to 12%.
• Top 10% to 5% (AGI $178,611 to $261,591): average effective rate of 14.3%.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>
• Top 1% (AGI above $663,164): average effective rate of 26.1%, with an average tax bill of about $561,500.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>

What Is the Average Effective Tax Rate by Income?

Your effective tax rate is often much lower than your bracket suggests. See what Americans actually pay by income level and what shapes your real tax burden.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

You mean "If people were SIMPLISTIC they'd be able to express their definition of fair share"?

The problem is it's a super complicated thing, full of things that are impossible to calculate.

Take education. Everyone pays taxes that go towards education.

But how much does one individual benefit from the education system?

If you earn $40,000 a year and work for a company, how much, or what percentage, should that person pay towards education?

Their being educated up to high school level, for free, cost X amount of money. Should this person pay back what they spent? Pay back what they spent in real terms? Pay more than they spent? Pay less than they spent?

Then you have a man who earns $2 million a year, owns a company that employs a thousand people.

This person makes money based on their own education (unless they went to private school), but employs 1000 people who all were all educated in the education system. They're benefitting MORE from the education system than the man who earns $40,000 a year. So, shouldn't they pay a higher percentage towards the education system?

There are plenty of things like this. Things that are not easy to quantify.

You say it should be easy to quantify everything. I say it's not.

Isn't politics a situation where everyone is pushing for their own benefit? What should then happen is that you end up with consensus? That's how you end up with the fairest system.

However in the US it seems like this consensus doesn't happen.

Postmodern Teachers of English Wear the Dunce Caps

Your usage of the poorly educated Singular They is an example of the copycat collectivism that disqualifies people from any intelligent criticism of "education."

Couldn't you at least have written, "These people make money [AS IN COUNTERFEITING!] based on their own education"?

 

[konradv]

More facts proving you are a lying sack of vermin shit.

Average Effective Federal Income Tax Rates by Income Group​

The most recent IRS data, covering tax year 2022 and published by the Tax Foundation in 2025, shows a clear staircase pattern. The numbers below reflect federal income tax only and do not include payroll taxes, state taxes, or other levies.

• Bottom 50% (AGI below $50,339): average effective rate of 3.7%, with an average tax bill of $822.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>
• Top 25% to 10% (AGI roughly $96,044 to $178,611): average effective rate around 9% to 12%.
• Top 10% to 5% (AGI $178,611 to $261,591): average effective rate of 14.3%.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>
• Top 1% (AGI above $663,164): average effective rate of 26.1%, with an average tax bill of about $561,500.<a href="javascript%3Avoid(0)">1</a>

What Is the Average Effective Tax Rate by Income?

Your effective tax rate is often much lower than your bracket suggests. See what Americans actually pay by income level and what shapes your real tax burden.

legalclarity.org

I’ll take Buffet’s word over a MAGAt.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not when the oligarchs pay a lower % than the average person. Are you calling a Warren Buffet a liar?

I am.

Warren Buffet is a liar.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Democrats are F'ing stupid. The 'rich' said F you NY packed up and left, now NY gets $0.00 and they have a booboo face. Rot in HELL you mooching parasite Dem scumbags!

Both the Rich and the Poor Are Parasites

The rich breed Leftists Daddy-moochers who use their unearned political power to sponsor giveaways to feral minorities. All this started with Preppy Prettyboy JFK. QED.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I’ll take Buffet’s word over a MAGAt.

Don't Associate Us with Plute-Lickers. That Is the Dead Right.

The Left's knee-jerk accusation is as anachronistic as the Right's "DemoKKKrats."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

All the Democrat leaders in politics are MILLIONAIRES or BILLIONAIRES so just STFU you twisted tongued lying hypocrite lowlifes!

The Preppy Republic

 

[Nostra]

I’ll take Buffet’s word over a MAGAt.

Hey stupid, Buffet pays accountants and attorneys to set it up so he pays as little as possible.

I gave you data for everyone.

You have what one guy claims about himself.

You lose…….again.

 

[Nostra]

I’ll take Buffet’s word over a MAGAt.

Show us his returns, Rachel.

 

[hadit]

Not when the oligarchs pay a lower % than the average person. Are you calling a Warren Buffet a liar?

I would call him disingenuous because he deliberately pays as little as he can get away with paying. When he starts using the 1040 form and not itemizing deductions, I'll believe he's being serious.

 

[BluesLegend]

Both the Rich and the Poor Are Parasites

The rich breed Leftists Daddy-moochers who use their unearned political power to sponsor giveaways to feral minorities. All this started with Preppy Prettyboy JFK. QED.

We conservatives have but to only wait. Time and interest on the exponentially skyrocketing national debt will eventually put a stop to the insanity. All these scumbag politicians will run for the exits and America will have to rebuild from the rubble.