The Walking Dead Season 5

[ChrisL]

Next weeks finale has to be the fall of Alexandria.
The writers know that they would lose half the audience if TWD becomes a soap opera in la la land.
The entire basis of the show is about struggle/danger/death...not the normal human dramas.
They just can't let this show turn into another "Lost" or "Falling Skies"...

I'm pretty sure something is going to happen to ruin the "harmony" real soon.

 

[Caroljo]

Sasha once told Rick - "your right even when your wrong"
I think that point is going to be made next week.
The person doing the killing and branding is going to come around.
Maybe the teen girl that Carl likes will get it right outside the fence where everyone can see. Or maybe he/they will somehow bust a part of the wall down - whatever it is...Rick and Darrel will save the day. It will end with who is left from the group walking away from Alexandria, and once again knowing Rick was right when he was wrong.

Carol said the exact same thing to Rick when they first got to Alexandria, as they were about to walk in the gate.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Ummm... He's the town Sheriff. The woman's husband is a drunken wife beater.

That would seem to fall pretty squarely into "his business."

I would agree that the "half crazed white knight" routine was over the top, however.

Nope, it's not his business. If she stays with this guy, that is HER business.

Well, if you're speaking legally, that's not how it works. Domestic violence is illegal, so it's not really up to her whether she can be beaten or not.

It is up to her, however, whether she gives him a second chance afterwards.

In any case, I don't think Rick was wrong to intervene. He was wrong, however, to make it personal like he did.

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

 

[ChrisL]

Nope, it's not his business. If she stays with this guy, that is HER business.

Well, if you're speaking legally, that's not how it works. Domestic violence is illegal, so it's not really up to her whether she can be beaten or not.

It is up to her, however, whether she gives him a second chance afterwards.

In any case, I don't think Rick was wrong to intervene. He was wrong, however, to make it personal like he did.

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

 

[High_Gravity]

I'm not sure Alexandria will fall this season, isn't it a bit soon? they just got there lol

 

[High_Gravity]

Francine I think her name was. She better tell someone..Deanna, Reg, the others..EXACTLY what that coward wanted to do. LEAVE her. And those who let Adrian die that way instead of putting a bullet in his head so he wouldn't feel it. Couldn't do Noah though..no way to do it with that thick glass and having to hold the door. And whatsherface...Glens wife...is she going to tell the group what Gabriel The ***** said about them?

Instead of putting rick out..I think ricks group should put the alexandrians out. Let them live out there for awhile and if they survive, THEN they can come back. Quid pro quo. First one out the door? Deanna and her clueless husband that lied about building that wall in 4 weeks "with help", then the cowards, followed by a wounded-so-he-can't-run Gabriel, and a twin wounded Pete but with his hands so he can't do surgery. Let them get a dose of whats out there.

Gracie if they did that all the Alexandrians would die lol

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Well, if you're speaking legally, that's not how it works. Domestic violence is illegal, so it's not really up to her whether she can be beaten or not.

It is up to her, however, whether she gives him a second chance afterwards.

In any case, I don't think Rick was wrong to intervene. He was wrong, however, to make it personal like he did.

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten. What more evidence does he really need?

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

 

[ChrisL]

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten.

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

No he didn't. He ran off when Carol asked him. I'm not defending anyone.

 

[High_Gravity]

I don't. It's not his business. He doesn't know that woman well enough to involve himself in her personal affairs. He needs to mind his business.

Ummm... He's the town Sheriff. The woman's husband is a drunken wife beater.

That would seem to fall pretty squarely into "his business."

I would agree that the "half crazed white knight" routine was over the top, however.

Nope, it's not his business. If she stays with this guy, that is HER business.

Well, if you're speaking legally, that's not how it works. Domestic violence is illegal, so it's not really up to her whether she can be beaten or not.

It is up to her, however, whether she gives him a second chance afterwards.

In any case, I don't think Rick was wrong to intervene. He was wrong, however, to make it personal like he did.

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

As soon as Rick brought this matter to Deana, she should have staged an intervention, but she didn't do anything, and didn't seem too interested. She has part of the blame in the blow up between Rick and Pete imo.

 

[High_Gravity]

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten. What more evidence does he really need?

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

How is this guy the town Doctor walking around hammered all the time?

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten.

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

No he didn't. He ran off when Carol asked him. I'm not defending anyone.

Telling someone to "mind their business" and ignore domestic abuse is enabling it.

Ummm... No offense, or anything, but why do you think that's okay?

Pete could very well kill Jessie, and then they might have a rouge walker to deal with.

 

[ChrisL]

Yes, he was wrong. He had no evidence of anything. He was simply going on suspicion. It's not like this woman is walking about with black eyes or anything like that. AND, it is her decision if she wants to stay with a man who beats on her.

You know, in such situations, usually the woman ends up forgiving him, and then Rick ends up looking like the bad guy. This isn't your typical situation where there are courts of laws and rules of the land. It's a completely different situation than the world that WE live in.

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten. What more evidence does he really need?

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

When did Deanna and Jessie say that? The boozing is another story. Still NOT illegal though. Point is, it is the woman's decision if she has decided to stay with this guy or give him another chance, or work through the bull crap.

In fact, you have told me before that a woman should STAY with her husband and try to work through issues and that it should be difficult to get a divorce. Now you are advocating for another man (a stranger no less, who really doesn't know what is going on) to intervene in a person's marriage.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Jessie straight up admitted to it, and so did Deanna. They simply weren't going to do anything about it, because they were afraid of what her husband might do.

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. If nothing else, having a violent drunk around is a liability to the well-being of the community as a whole, and would need to be addressed as such.

Again, in that regard, I think Rick was absolutely right. Something really did need to be done about the doctor.

He was in desperate need of an intervention and public reprimand at the very least, and possibly a more forcible form of makeshift "rehab" if he failed to take the hint. The only reason someone hadn't done so already was simple cowardice.

The problem is that Rick was right for all the wrong reasons, and went about making his point in exactly the wrong way.

Rick really just wanted to be the one banging Jessie instead of her asshat husband, and he approached the issue from that perspective, rather than the professional perspective he should have. That's why things went bad.

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten. What more evidence does he really need?

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

How is this guy the town Doctor walking around hammered all the time?

Short answer? Deanna's spineless. lol

 

[Sgt_Gath]

When did Deanna and Jessie say that?

What do you mean? If something wasn't wrong, why would she have said "yes" to Rick's offer?

Why would Deanna say that she "knew" what was going on?

The guy was abusive, and dangerous.

The boozing is another story. Still NOT illegal though. Point is, it is the woman's decision if she has decided to stay with this guy or give him another chance, or work through the bull crap.

It is her decision. It's not her decision, however, whether Pete gets to continue using her as a punching bag while putting the entire community at risk through his blatant alcohol abuse.

A) Even in today's world, he would probably be tossed into jail for drunk and disorderly conduct.

B) As you said yourself, this isn't the world we live in anymore. Town drunks might be more or less harmless for us. In a world where they might very well wind up killing someone, or themselves, in a drunken stupor, and unleash a walker on the community by accident, that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated.

How would the Gov deal with the guy, for example? He'd sit him down and set him straight, and if he didn't get the message the first time, he'd either get rid of him, or knock some sense into him.

In fact, you have told me before that a woman should STAY with her husband and try to work through issues and that it should be difficult to get a divorce. Now you are advocating for another man (a stranger no less, who really doesn't know what is going on) to intervene in a person's marriage.

Well... Yea. That doesn't mean she's got to let a drunken douchebag treat her like a human punching bag.

If she wants to give him another chance that's fine. She should simply do so after he's sobered up, and stopped beating her.

 

[ChrisL]

He acted silly, IMO. He doesn't even really KNOW these people.

Yea. He had the right idea. He just went about it all wrong. lol

I disagree. He had no evidence at all. Nobody came out and said that he was beating her. She had no marks on her, and he went into their home uninvited. If this was real life in the real world, he would be fired. You need evidence and you cannot just go accusing people of a crime with no evidence.

When he was asked to leave, he should have left. The MOST he can do is talk to the wife and try to talk her into leaving unless he actually witnessed a beating.

Otherwise, it's on her to leave this guy.

I'm sorry, Chris, but you're wrong. The kid came out and said it.

Both DeAnna and Jessie herself also both came right out and said that Rick was right, and that Jessie was, in fact being beaten.

Frankly, even besides that, the fact of the matter is that everyone KNOWS Pete is the town drunk, and is prone to aimlessly wander the town while blitzed out of his mind.

Why on Earth should that be tolerated? Who keeps giving him booze?

For that matter, why on Earth are you defending a wife beater? I mean... Wth, Chris?

No he didn't. He ran off when Carol asked him. I'm not defending anyone.

Telling someone to "mind their business" and ignore domestic abuse is enabling it.

Ummm... No offense, or anything, but why do you think that's okay?

Pete could very well kill Jessie, and then they might have a rouge walker to deal with.

She doesn't even have any marks on her. Believe ME, I've seen abused women before. They don't look or behave like this Jesse person does. They don't go trying to "entice" other men because they are too frightened. They are withdrawn. The usually look like hell, not just because they have signs of being beaten but because they look tired and degraded. How do we know he doesn't just "emotionally" abuse her? We don't.

It would be easy enough for her to get away from him. It's a small town where everyone knows one another. She could leave and stay with someone else, but she stays.

 

[ChrisL]

When did Deanna and Jessie say that?

What do you mean? If something wasn't wrong, why would she have said "yes" to Rick's offer?

Why would Deanna say that she "knew" what was going on?

The guy was abusive, and dangerous.

The boozing is another story. Still NOT illegal though. Point is, it is the woman's decision if she has decided to stay with this guy or give him another chance, or work through the bull crap.

It is her decision. It's not her decision, however, whether Pete gets to continue using her as a punching bag while putting the entire community at risk through his blatant alcohol abuse.

A) Even in today's world, he would probably be tossed into jail for drunk and disorderly conduct.

B) As you said yourself, this isn't the world we live in anymore. Town drunks might be more or less harmless for us. In a world where they might very well wind up killing someone, or themselves, in a drunken stupor, and unleash a walker on the community by accident, that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated.

How would the Gov deal with the guy, for example? He'd sit him down and set him straight, and if he didn't get the message the first time, he'd either get rid of him, or knock some sense into him.

In fact, you have told me before that a woman should STAY with her husband and try to work through issues and that it should be difficult to get a divorce. Now you are advocating for another man (a stranger no less, who really doesn't know what is going on) to intervene in a person's marriage.

Well... Yea. That doesn't mean she's got to let a drunken douchebag treat her like a human punching bag.

If she wants to give him another chance that's fine. She should simply do so after he's sobered up, and stopped beating her.

She doesn't have any marks on her. The bottom line here is, Rick doesn't know her or her husband. He doesn't know anything about their relationship. All he has is suspicions.

 

[ChrisL]

When did Deanna and Jessie say that?

What do you mean? If something wasn't wrong, why would she have said "yes" to Rick's offer?

Why would Deanna say that she "knew" what was going on?

The guy was abusive, and dangerous.

The boozing is another story. Still NOT illegal though. Point is, it is the woman's decision if she has decided to stay with this guy or give him another chance, or work through the bull crap.

It is her decision. It's not her decision, however, whether Pete gets to continue using her as a punching bag while putting the entire community at risk through his blatant alcohol abuse.

A) Even in today's world, he would probably be tossed into jail for drunk and disorderly conduct.

B) As you said yourself, this isn't the world we live in anymore. Town drunks might be more or less harmless for us. In a world where they might very well wind up killing someone, or themselves, in a drunken stupor, and unleash a walker on the community by accident, that kind of behavior cannot be tolerated.

How would the Gov deal with the guy, for example? He'd sit him down and set him straight, and if he didn't get the message the first time, he'd either get rid of him, or knock some sense into him.

In fact, you have told me before that a woman should STAY with her husband and try to work through issues and that it should be difficult to get a divorce. Now you are advocating for another man (a stranger no less, who really doesn't know what is going on) to intervene in a person's marriage.

Well... Yea. That doesn't mean she's got to let a drunken douchebag treat her like a human punching bag.

If she wants to give him another chance that's fine. She should simply do so after he's sobered up, and stopped beating her.

Like I told you earlier, most often these women will forgive their husbands and then HATE the man who involves himself in her relationship. He then becomes the "enemy." He was wrong for what he did. He followed her and tried to "push" her into something that she is obviously not ready to do yet.

 

[ChrisL]

^^^

As a police officer, he should have known better. He let his emotions get the better of him. He should have left this alone for the time being. Not to mention, he is the new guy, a stranger. Now, HE looks like the nut. That was really REALLY stupid on his part.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

She doesn't even have any marks on her. Believe ME, I've seen abused women before. They don't look or behave like this Jesse person does. They don't go trying to "entice" other men because they are too frightened. They are withdrawn. The usually look like hell, not just because they have signs of being beaten but because they look tired and degraded. How do we know he doesn't just "emotionally" abuse her? We don't.

It would be easy enough for her to get away from him. It's a small town where everyone knows one another. She could leave and stay with someone else, but she stays.

All this tells us is that the show's writers don't know jack crap about abused women. They also needed Jessie to be attractive enough that Rick would actually be interested in her, so they couldn't make her "realistic."

However, within the context of the show's crappy writing, we are clearly supposed to believe that Jessie's situation is serious, and the only reason she hasn't left is because she's afraid, or has some kind of stockholm syndrome.

As the kid said, his mom has him lock himself in his closet whenever his father gets drunk, and he's found his mother lying on the floor unconscious afterwards.

What if he hits her hard enough to kill her, and she comes back as a Walker?

She doesn't have any marks on her. The bottom line here is, Rick doesn't know her or her husband. He doesn't know anything about their relationship. All he has is suspicions.

Again, he, and we, know enough.

There is abuse going on, and it is supposed to be serious. The show's writers apparently either just don't know jack crap about domestic abuse, or aren't interested in portraying it realistically.

Like I told you earlier, most often these women will forgive their husbands and then HATE the man who involves himself in her relationship. He then becomes the "enemy." He was wrong for what he did. He followed her and tried to "push" her into something that she is obviously not ready to do yet.

Frankly, her "feelings" are irrelevant.

The fact of the matter is that Pete is a liability and a danger to the community as a whole in his present state. He needs to be dealt with as such.

Jessie can be pissed if she wants. Something needs to be done.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

^^^

As a police officer, he should have known better. He let his emotions get the better of him. He should have left this alone for the time being. Not to mention, he is the new guy, a stranger. Now, HE looks like the nut. That was really REALLY stupid on his part.

Yes. As I said before, his approach was stupid.

The idea behind it, however, was not. Pete is dangerous, and his behavior shuldn't be tolerated.

Rick was just too concerned with getting his dick wet to keep that in perspective.