The Virigin Mary? Mother of God?

[Aletheia4u]

Unknown exactly what its about and I also know that immaculate conceptions are a fallacy.
You're an ignorant fool if you think she was born without sin. No one heard of her until the magical conception. Research it. Wakeup to yourself.

The philosophy that you have learned from your gods the scientists, sounds more ridiculous than any other religions' philosophies.

Even a spark and sound like the voice of God is something. But you and your gods don't even know that. But they believe that everything can evolve from nothingness. But you guys cannot believe that a woman can have a baby without a physical man dumping his family's jewels into her?

Boy you guys have greater faith than I to believe that a magic trick can be performed without a magician to perform it.


1 Timothy 6:20
Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,
( And the word knowledge in the book of Timothy was translated from the word science)

 

[SweetSue92]

Yeah. No to the Catholic Mary. Of all things Catholic, this might be the most objectionable.

She did have other children, and there was nothing wrong with that. She was married. It's fine.

 

[Colin norris]

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The philosophy that you have learned from your gods the scientists, sounds more ridiculous than any other religions' philosophies.

Even a spark and sound like the voice of God is something. But you and your gods don't even know that. But they believe that everything can evolve from nothingness. But you guys cannot believe that a woman can have a baby without a physical man dumping his family's jewels into her?

Boy you guys have greater faith than I to believe that a magic trick can be performed without a magician to perform it.


1 Timothy 6:20
Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,
( And the word knowledge in the book of Timothy was translated from the word science)

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There is no God and never has been. You have no evidence of anything resembling it.
Your bible has not one verifiable fact in it, except the page numbers. You do not know what God thinks nor the destination and punishment of atheists.

As an atheist, I worship no God or science. It's very immature of you to attempt to link them as a type of religion. it's an old trick originating in guilt about religion becoming irrelevant. Your beliefs have never provided you with one thing.
You've never had interactions with any God and never will. In fact, you're just another delusional godbotherer.

I welcome your reply. See how good you are.

 

[seaofnails]

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Catholics and Muslims - they pretend that Mary was guarding, protecting and safekeeping and preserving Her virginity and chastity.

When the fact is that Her own virginity was not mentioned as being important to Her own personal plans - NOR - was the subject of keeping ones virginity even mentioned

by the Angel { as anything concerning any importance for any reason as for why she was even chosen }

The Muslim and Catholic prayer and writings are never mentioning and focusing and prioritizing or glorifying the MAIN reason and purpose that The Angel Himself had declared " was the REAL focus " and point of Mary being chosen to give birth to Yahoshua.

In Luke - The angel is telling Mary directly the very important details about the child and why she was chosen. - - Yet, I have never once heard a Catholic or a Muslim ever mention or glorify or rejoice or indoctrinate any of the words of The Angel. In Fact the Catholislamic world completely ignores the message of the Angel.

Please notice - Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Yahoshua. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: :33 And He shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of his kingdom, there shall be no end.

This - is what the focus of Gods message, dictated through His Angel.

Yet Catholics and Muslims do not focus a moment of a second on any of these words from the Angel.

And, Yes, there is no question whatsoever that the Greek New Testament says that that Mary was very favored and specially chosen to receive the gift, joy and the grace of God. BUT The part of Her virginity was not the main focus of anything throughout the entire gospels. It was only mentioned twice in reference of the Old Testament Prophecy.

The reason that She was chosen was because that She was a direct descendant of the line of King David - and born to the HOUSE of Jacob - as the Angel and of the Old Testament Prophecy declared and focused upon. Yet neither the Quran nor the Vatican doctrines have ever made this important in their message in any capacity. Instead, Catholics and Muslims harp, dwell, focus, tunnel vision and CENTER IN upon the lie and bogus claim that Mary was somehow protecting and safeguarding and hogging and hoarding as a determination in Her MINDs, GOAL and SOLE PURPOSE, to KEEP Her virginity, when the Bible says that Her virginity was not what she was planning - as the Angel was commanding Joseph to don’t be afraid and to go ahead with their Marriage plan.

Mary was planning sex, planning marriage.

The Angel never commanded Joseph to obstain from having sex with Mary and to hold off and wait until the baby was birthed. According to what we know about the Angel's command -

- The Angel told Him it was ok to take her at that very point - as a wife - as was the marriage plan. !

The Prophecy was that a Virgin would conceive - Not that a Virgin would give birth.

There was nothing important about Mary remaining and preserving Her virginity, neither in the eyes the Mary nor in the command of the Angel of God Gabriel. What Roman Catholics and Muslim do, focus in on tiny phrases and words and attempt to change their meanings in order to re - write and over - ride and downplay the rest of the storyline.

Why are the rest of the words of The Holy Angel completely and totally ignored by both Catholics and Muslims ? - it seems that the only focus is on / about the virginity of Mary, as Muslims and Catholics pretend that Mary was guarding, protecting and safekeeping and preserving Her virginity and chastity.

As it says in Quran 66:12 And (God sets forth the example for those who Believe) of Mary, the daughter of Heli, who guarded her chastity.........

But - In Luke - The angel is telling Mary directly the very important details about the child and why she was chosen. Yet, I have never once heard a Catholic or a Muslim ever mention or glorify or rejoice or indoctrinate the words of The Angel Of The Lord.

The Seed Of David and The House Of Yacob is why she was chosen. Of course being a virgin was also an important part but neither the Angel Of The Lord - NOR MARY - Nor The Apostles - never, ever mentions this as of any major importance.

And Mary wanted sex, wanted marriage - Mary was planning to have seX and get married. And Joseph was privately planning on not continuing onward to marrying Her because He believed that She was pregnant with someone else's child and was sexually dishonest. Perpetual, lifetime Virginity was not planned and plotted by Mary but rather due to the fact that She had never yet found a mate to marry.

I just feel that Muslims and Catholics totally ignore and deny the real meaning and message of the Bible. While exaggerating and focusing in on marginal, fractional distracting elements in order to destroy and crush the main purposes and most important plans of God and His people, according to the Bible.

Mary was planning, plotting and preparing to have sex and a husband in marriage, she was not safeguarding and saving her virginity - she planned to not be a virgin.

 

[Colin norris]

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Catholics and Muslims - they pretend that Mary was guarding, protecting and safekeeping and preserving Her virginity and chastity.

When the fact is that Her own virginity was not mentioned as being important to Her own personal plans - NOR - was the subject of keeping ones virginity even mentioned

by the Angel { as anything concerning any importance for any reason as for why she was even chosen }

The Muslim and Catholic prayer and writings are never mentioning and focusing and prioritizing or glorifying the MAIN reason and purpose that The Angel Himself had declared " was the REAL focus " and point of Mary being chosen to give birth to Yahoshua.

In Luke - The angel is telling Mary directly the very important details about the child and why she was chosen. - - Yet, I have never once heard a Catholic or a Muslim ever mention or glorify or rejoice or indoctrinate any of the words of The Angel. In Fact the Catholislamic world completely ignores the message of the Angel.

Please notice - Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Yahoshua. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: :33 And He shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of his kingdom, there shall be no end.

This - is what the focus of Gods message, dictated through His Angel.

Yet Catholics and Muslims do not focus a moment of a second on any of these words from the Angel.

And, Yes, there is no question whatsoever that the Greek New Testament says that that Mary was very favored and specially chosen to receive the gift, joy and the grace of God. BUT The part of Her virginity was not the main focus of anything throughout the entire gospels. It was only mentioned twice in reference of the Old Testament Prophecy.

The reason that She was chosen was because that She was a direct descendant of the line of King David - and born to the HOUSE of Jacob - as the Angel and of the Old Testament Prophecy declared and focused upon. Yet neither the Quran nor the Vatican doctrines have ever made this important in their message in any capacity. Instead, Catholics and Muslims harp, dwell, focus, tunnel vision and CENTER IN upon the lie and bogus claim that Mary was somehow protecting and safeguarding and hogging and hoarding as a determination in Her MINDs, GOAL and SOLE PURPOSE, to KEEP Her virginity, when the Bible says that Her virginity was not what she was planning - as the Angel was commanding Joseph to don’t be afraid and to go ahead with their Marriage plan.

Mary was planning sex, planning marriage.

The Angel never commanded Joseph to obstain from having sex with Mary and to hold off and wait until the baby was birthed. According to what we know about the Angel's command -

- The Angel told Him it was ok to take her at that very point - as a wife - as was the marriage plan. !

The Prophecy was that a Virgin would conceive - Not that a Virgin would give birth.

There was nothing important about Mary remaining and preserving Her virginity, neither in the eyes the Mary nor in the command of the Angel of God Gabriel. What Roman Catholics and Muslim do, focus in on tiny phrases and words and attempt to change their meanings in order to re - write and over - ride and downplay the rest of the storyline.

Why are the rest of the words of The Holy Angel completely and totally ignored by both Catholics and Muslims ? - it seems that the only focus is on / about the virginity of Mary, as Muslims and Catholics pretend that Mary was guarding, protecting and safekeeping and preserving Her virginity and chastity.

As it says in Quran 66:12 And (God sets forth the example for those who Believe) of Mary, the daughter of Heli, who guarded her chastity.........

But - In Luke - The angel is telling Mary directly the very important details about the child and why she was chosen. Yet, I have never once heard a Catholic or a Muslim ever mention or glorify or rejoice or indoctrinate the words of The Angel Of The Lord.

The Seed Of David and The House Of Yacob is why she was chosen. Of course being a virgin was also an important part but neither the Angel Of The Lord - NOR MARY - Nor The Apostles - never, ever mentions this as of any major importance.

And Mary wanted sex, wanted marriage - Mary was planning to have seX and get married. And Joseph was privately planning on not continuing onward to marrying Her because He believed that She was pregnant with someone else's child and was sexually dishonest. Perpetual, lifetime Virginity was not planned and plotted by Mary but rather due to the fact that She had never yet found a mate to marry.

I just feel that Muslims and Catholics totally ignore and deny the real meaning and message of the Bible. While exaggerating and focusing in on marginal, fractional distracting elements in order to destroy and crush the main purposes and most important plans of God and His people, according to the Bible.

Mary was planning, plotting and preparing to have sex and a husband in marriage, she was not safeguarding and saving her virginity - she planned to not be a virgin.

I think all the godbotherers need to take a cold shower on this.
There's no evidence Jesus ever existed let alone from a virgin births (which is impossible), and least of all a son of God.
The whole thing is full myths, lies and impossibilities we now know cannot happen.

Before anyone starts talking about immaculate conception etc they need to determine some facts which are invisible around this religious crap.

Honestly, some spirit impregnated Mary with the sperm of God. Really?
Who is gonna buy that rubnish?

 

[kjw47]

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No where does it say mother of God in the bible. That is a major error anyone teaching that or believing it. Jesus was made lower than the angels on earth. God always was and always will be.
The religion is filled with darkness who teaches that Mary is the mother of God. Run from it..

 

[seaofnails]

Overcome the " a - tributaries " of Rome by always representing the truth about God's precious word.

 

[there4eyeM]

It is so evident that certain religious aspects are bogus that one becomes speechless when confronting them. Of all the obviously fallacious elements present in every major faith, the entire fabrication of Mormonism is Mohammedism are the most outstanding. Unsubstantiated claims by hopelessly unqualified men have become inexplicably central to incoherent belief systems.
The gullibility of humans would appear to be infinite.

 

[kjw47]

It is so evident that certain religious aspects are bogus that one becomes speechless when confronting them. Of all the obviously fallacious elements present in every major faith, the entire fabrication of Mormonism is Mohammedism are the most outstanding. Unsubstantiated claims by hopelessly unqualified men have become inexplicably central to incoherent belief systems.
The gullibility of humans would appear to be infinite.

Yes, satan beat 99% living now centuries ago.