The US Military on the Front Lines of Rising Seas (2016)

[abu afak]

SATURDAY'S exchange. You must be demented. ("How do we know..")

• Saturday at 2:50 PM.

Chick agrees with me ... sea levels raised 0.042 mm/yr^2 ( 6 years )^2 + 3.4 mm/yr ( 6 years ) = 22 mm ... 7/8th of an inch ...

I know ... algebra lies ...[/B]

Actually no one is lying and no one 'disagrees.'
You're just Ignorant of the dynamics.
What happened to your physics BS boy?

Sea level doesn't rise evenly for Many reasons from Subsidence or Rising, to Gravity, to Ocean dynamics.
ie
""..Between 1993 and 2018, sea level rose 12 to 15 millimeters per year (about Half an inch per year) in Some regions, and went Down by that amount in others. But on Average, it has gone up by about 3 millimeters per year (about 28 millimeters, or 1-1/8 inches, per decade) in that same period. Most of this unevenness is caused by ocean dynamics."..."

Are sea levels rising the same all over the world, as if we're filling a giant bathtub? â NASA Sea Level Change Portal​

Visit NASA's portal for an in-depth look at the science behind sea level change.

sealevel.nasa.gov

You can't debate me BOY!
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Now TWICE in under 48 hours!
Does your ego let you bury it THAT fast?
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[ReinyDays]

Except Sea level is OF COURSE uneven not just an average. Currents and gravity could have it up some places and down others.

College science ... mean sea level is the shell of equal gravitational potential ... Naviar/Stokes Equations ... "water seeks it's own level" ... stupid ...

and second, in that area, subsidence is a good part of the damage.
DISMISSED.
You are not even at Physics or Math 101.
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How does weather or climate effect subsidence ... I agree these Atlantic Ocean coastal cities are in deep trouble ... but it's not AGW ... not carbon dioxide ...

Do you know what dt is? ... Math 101 ... do you know what hydrostatic pressure is? ... Physics 101 ... how would you know if someone has completed these classes or not ... you've never demonstrated math skills of a high schooler in California ...

ETA: What the first derivative with respect to time of gravitational potential? ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ... easy freshman question ... c'mon, little boy, answer if you dare ... or be the coward ...

 

[abu afak]

College science ... mean sea level is the shell of equal gravitational potential ... Naviar/Stokes Equations ... "water seeks it's own level" ... stupid ...



How does weather or climate effect subsidence ... I agree these Atlantic Ocean coastal cities are in deep trouble ... but it's not AGW ... not carbon dioxide ...

Do you know what dt is? ... Math 101 ... do you know what hydrostatic pressure is? ... Physics 101 ... how would you know if someone has completed these classes or not ... you've never demonstrated math skills of a high schooler in California ...

It's not just subsidence ..
You lost TWICE in under 48 hours You FACT-BURYING Egomaniac/math simpleton. Always trying to drop Physics terms (LOL) .. but in fact EMBARASSED and doing his imitation of EMH.
bye

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[ReinyDays]

It's not just subsidence ..
You lost TWICE in under 48 hours You FACT-BURYING Egomaniac/math simpleton. Always trying to drop Physics terms (LOL) .. but in fact EMBARASSED and doing his imitation of EMH.
bye

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What the first derivative with respect to time of gravitational potential? ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ... easy freshman question ... c'mon, little boy, answer if you dare ... or be the coward ...

Don't bother ... not answering is an answer to itself ... you don't know what Physics 101 or Math 101 is ... do you? ... wouldn't know an epsilon/delta proof if it bit you in the ass ... how about polynomials, any ideas there? ...

Yeah ...college science ... Greenhouse Effect is a physics term ... succinctly stated in SB ... all you have is weasel ...

ETA: Gravity doesn't change with time ... only with distance and/or mass ... therefore the first derivative with respect to time is zero ... it exists, just it's numerically equal to zero ... f(x) = 0 is an algebra function after all ...

 

[Crick]

What the first derivative with respect to time of gravitational potential? ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ... easy freshman question ... c'mon, little boy, answer if you dare ... or be the coward ...

Don't bother ... not answering is an answer to itself ... you don't know what Physics 101 or Math 101 is ... do you? ... wouldn't know an epsilon/delta proof if it bit you in the ass ... how about polynomials, any ideas there? ...

Yeah ...college science ... Greenhouse Effect is a physics term ... succinctly stated in SB ... all you have is weasel ...

ETA: Gravity doesn't change with time ... only with distance and/or mass ... therefore the first derivative with respect to time is zero ... it exists, just it's numerically equal to zero ... f(x) = 0 is an algebra function after all ...

If you think polynomials are an impressive bit of college math, I wouldn't push your luck. Those are introduced in Algebra 2 or Trigonometry in high school Whizzo. Did you ever bone up on correlation? You never got back to us on that.

There have been suggestions lately that gravity varies with time. It's one solution to the dark matter problem.

 

[ReinyDays]

If you think polynomials are an impressive bit of college math, I wouldn't push your luck. Those are introduced in Algebra 2 or Trigonometry in high school Whizzo. Did you ever bone up on correlation? You never got back to us on that.

There have been suggestions lately that gravity varies with time. It's one solution to the dark matter problem.

Polynomials is first day first week of algebra ... x + 2 = 7 ... solve for x ... dumbass ... here's a scary one ... x + 2 > 7 ... solve for x .. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

How are you defining correlation? ... usually, we just look at up and down ... when carbon dioxide goes up, we have a positive correlation when temperature also goes up ... whereas if CO2 goes up and temperatures go down, then that's not a correlation ... I'm sorry this makes you a liar, you should shut up about things you know nothing of ...

Did you ever find out what a convergence zone is and why the pseudo-adibatic process is important there? ... you didn't get back with us on that ...

 

[abu afak]

Depopulating Military Installations Because of Sea Level Rise​

July 6, 2020

"...In case you missed it, an audit of the U.S. Department of Defense’s installation climate resilience from last year, conducted by the Government Accountability Office, found that “installations have not consistently assessed risks from extreme weather and climate change effects or consistently used projections to anticipate future climate conditions.”

One of those conditions is Sea Level Rise that will affect multiple coastal installations (see here and here).
Sea level rise will not only affect the physical infrastructure on these installations, it will also potentially lead to the inland migration of portions of the populations who live in the surrounding communities – some of whom form part of an installation’s work force. Depending on how far away and how many migrants move, their loss will degrade an installation’s ability to continue to function at an acceptable level over time."..>'

Depopulating Military Installations Because of Sea Level Rise​

By Dr. Marc Kodack In case you missed it, an audit of the U.S. Department of Defense’s installation climate resilience from last year, conducted by the Government Accountability Office, found that …
climateandsecurity.org
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[abu afak]

NATO wants to fight climate change – the trick is to make armies green but strong​

June 22 - By LORNE COOK

BRUSSELS
NATO faces a series of dilemmas in its attempts to fight climate change while ensuring the effectiveness of its combat forces, as Europe’s biggest land war in decades ravages Ukraine, the head of the military alliance told The Associated Press in an interview Wednesday.

The world’s armed forces are among the greatest consumers of hydrocarbons – fuel and oil – that contribute to greenhouse gases. They have been in much demand recently as global warming fans conflicts and crises because of resource and food scarcity.

The main dilemma NATO is contending with, Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said, is the difficult choice “between either having a green or a strong military."

He said that NATO needs to "reconcile the need for an effective, strong, armed forces with the need to have climate-friendly armed forces.”

Last year, in its new Strategic Concept – essentially NATO’s mission statement – the world’s biggest security organization recognized, for the first time, climate change as “a defining challenge of our time, with a profound impact on Allied security.”
[......]

NATO wants to fight climate change – the trick is to make armies green but strong

NATO faces a series of dilemmas in its attempts to fight climate change while ensuring the effectiveness of its combat forces, as Europe’s biggest land war in decades ravages Ukraine, the head of the military alliance told The Associated Press in an interview Wednesday. The world’s armed forces...

japantoday.com

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[westwall]

So. Five years and nothing. Just like the contents of your head.

 

[abu afak]

DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in Southern Virginia​

July 21, 2021 | By C. Todd Lopez , DOD News |


The Navy and Defense Department have efforts underway to mitigate the challenges posed by climate change in one of the most military-dense regions of the country.

The Hampton Roads area in southern Virginia is home to dozens of military installations, including Naval Station Norfolk, the world's largest naval facility. On the Atlantic Ocean and an important part of the Navy's ocean-faring capability, it's a unique example of how the nation's defense can be affected by the environment.




Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III went to Naval Station Norfolk just last month to visit the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman and to discuss the impact of climate change on security and military readiness. It's an issue that's been a priority for him.

"Since 2010, the Department of Defense has acknowledged that the planet's changing climate has a dramatic effect on our missions, plans and installations," Austin said earlier this year. "The department will immediately take appropriate policy actions to prioritize climate change considerations in our activities and risk assessments [in order] to mitigate this driver of insecurity."

The kind of work the secretary alluded to is already taking place at Navy installations in Hampton Roads according to Rear Adm. Charles Rock, the commander of Navy Region Mid-Atlantic. The command is responsible for, among other things, shore infrastructure at Navy bases in the Hampton Roads area.
"Every installation within Navy Region Mid-Atlantic continuously evaluates the impact of climate and weather effects on our readiness and identifies opportunities to mitigate operational impacts by cooperating with nature, designing and building resilient infrastructure, and reaching out to our community partners to develop holistic responses," Rock said.

Responses to climate change in the Navy Region Mid-Atlantic region include natural solutions, such as dune restoration or sustaining coastal marshes and vegetation, Rock said. Man-made solutions are used, as well.
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DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in Southern Virginia

The Navy and Defense Department have efforts underway to mitigate the challenges posed by climate change in one of the most military-dense regions of the country.

www.defense.gov

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[westwall]

DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in Southern Virginia​

July 21, 2021 | By C. Todd Lopez , DOD News |


The Navy and Defense Department have efforts underway to mitigate the challenges posed by climate change in one of the most military-dense regions of the country.

The Hampton Roads area in southern Virginia is home to dozens of military installations, including Naval Station Norfolk, the world's largest naval facility. On the Atlantic Ocean and an important part of the Navy's ocean-faring capability, it's a unique example of how the nation's defense can be affected by the environment.



Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III went to Naval Station Norfolk just last month to visit the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman and to discuss the impact of climate change on security and military readiness. It's an issue that's been a priority for him.

"Since 2010, the Department of Defense has acknowledged that the planet's changing climate has a dramatic effect on our missions, plans and installations," Austin said earlier this year. "The department will immediately take appropriate policy actions to prioritize climate change considerations in our activities and risk assessments [in order] to mitigate this driver of insecurity."

The kind of work the secretary alluded to is already taking place at Navy installations in Hampton Roads according to Rear Adm. Charles Rock, the commander of Navy Region Mid-Atlantic. The command is responsible for, among other things, shore infrastructure at Navy bases in the Hampton Roads area.
"Every installation within Navy Region Mid-Atlantic continuously evaluates the impact of climate and weather effects on our readiness and identifies opportunities to mitigate operational impacts by cooperating with nature, designing and building resilient infrastructure, and reaching out to our community partners to develop holistic responses," Rock said.

Responses to climate change in the Navy Region Mid-Atlantic region include natural solutions, such as dune restoration or sustaining coastal marshes and vegetation, Rock said. Man-made solutions are used, as well.
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DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in Southern Virginia

The Navy and Defense Department have efforts underway to mitigate the challenges posed by climate change in one of the most military-dense regions of the country.

www.defense.gov

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5 years on, and the base is still far above water.

DURRRRRR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

NATO wants to fight climate change – the trick is to make armies green but strong​

June 22 - By LORNE COOK

BRUSSELS
NATO faces a series of dilemmas in its attempts to fight climate change while ensuring the effectiveness of its combat forces, as Europe’s biggest land war in decades ravages Ukraine, the head of the military alliance told The Associated Press in an interview Wednesday.

The world’s armed forces are among the greatest consumers of hydrocarbons – fuel and oil – that contribute to greenhouse gases. They have been in much demand recently as global warming fans conflicts and crises because of resource and food scarcity.

The main dilemma NATO is contending with, Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said, is the difficult choice “between either having a green or a strong military."

He said that NATO needs to "reconcile the need for an effective, strong, armed forces with the need to have climate-friendly armed forces.”

Last year, in its new Strategic Concept – essentially NATO’s mission statement – the world’s biggest security organization recognized, for the first time, climate change as “a defining challenge of our time, with a profound impact on Allied security.”
[......]

NATO wants to fight climate change – the trick is to make armies green but strong

NATO faces a series of dilemmas in its attempts to fight climate change while ensuring the effectiveness of its combat forces, as Europe’s biggest land war in decades ravages Ukraine, the head of the military alliance told The Associated Press in an interview Wednesday. The world’s armed forces...

japantoday.com

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The main dilemma NATO is contending with, Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said, is the difficult choice “between either having a green or a strong military."

Exactly. Green or Strong.

 

[themirrorthief]

SATURDAY'S exchange. You must be demented. ("How do we know..")

• Saturday at 2:50 PM.

Actually no one is lying and no one 'disagrees.'
You're just Ignorant of the dynamics.
What happened to your physics BS boy?

Sea level doesn't rise evenly for Many reasons from Subsidence or Rising, to Gravity, to Ocean dynamics.
ie
""..Between 1993 and 2018, sea level rose 12 to 15 millimeters per year (about Half an inch per year) in Some regions, and went Down by that amount in others. But on Average, it has gone up by about 3 millimeters per year (about 28 millimeters, or 1-1/8 inches, per decade) in that same period. Most of this unevenness is caused by ocean dynamics."..."

Are sea levels rising the same all over the world, as if we're filling a giant bathtub? â NASA Sea Level Change Portal​

Visit NASA's portal for an in-depth look at the science behind sea level change.

sealevel.nasa.gov

You can't debate me BOY!
- - - - - - -

Now TWICE in under 48 hours!
Does your ego let you bury it THAT fast?
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and all those wealthy democrats are getting the hell away from Marthas vineyard before global warming sends it to settle beside the titantic.....or maybe not

 

[fncceo]

the trick is to make armies green but strong

The US Navy plans to deploy new, climate friendly, warship by the end of 2030...

The trick will be ... finding experienced crews to man them ...

 

[EMH]

Actual photos of Norfolk Naval Base in the past year...

Evidence of sinking = ZERO

norfolk naval station - Google Search

 

[abu afak]

Actual photos of Norfolk Naval Base in the past year...

Evidence of sinking = ZERO

norfolk naval station - Google Search

Rising Seas Are Flooding Norfolk Naval Base, and There's ...​

InsideClimate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News
Oct 25, 2017 — Naval Station Norfolk, home to the Atlantic Fleet, floods not just in heavy rains or during hurricanes. It floods when the sun is shining, ...

A Success in Norfolk Should Also Be a Warning​

Defense One
https://www.defenseone.com › ideas › 2022/07 › succ...
Jul 18, 2022 — Consider Norfolk Naval Station, the world's largest naval base, where critical roads now flood even on sunny days and where rising seas ...

Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia Flood Factor​

[/b]https://riskfactor.com › neighborhood › 192649_fsid​

There are 18 properties in Naval Station Norfolk that have greater than a 26% chance of being severely affected by flooding over the next 30 years.

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DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in ...​

Department of Defense (.gov)
https://www.defense.gov › News › Article › Article
Jul 21, 2021 — At Naval Station Norfolk, Ballard thinks efforts to improve resilience to climate impacts are effective and are happening at the right pace. "We ...
You visited this page on 6/28/23.

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Rising seas threaten Norfolk Naval Shipyard, raising fears ...​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › rising-s...
Nov 19, 2018 — In the past 10 years, Norfolk Naval Shipyard has suffered Nine major floods that have damaged equipment used to repair ships, and the flooding ...

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Climate Change Threatens the U.S. Navy's Main Base in ...​

The National Interest
https://nationalinterest.org › blog › reboot › climate-c...
Mar 1, 2021 — In short, severe flooding would badly damage the infrastructure upon which Naval Station Norfolk depends. The United States has lost bases to ...

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[EMH]

Rising Seas Are Flooding Norfolk Naval Base, and There's ...​

InsideClimate News
https://insideclimatenews.org › News
Oct 25, 2017 — Naval Station Norfolk, home to the Atlantic Fleet, floods not just in heavy rains or during hurricanes. It floods when the sun is shining, ...

A Success in Norfolk Should Also Be a Warning​

Defense One
https://www.defenseone.com › ideas › 2022/07 › succ...
Jul 18, 2022 — Consider Norfolk Naval Station, the world's largest naval base, where critical roads now flood even on sunny days and where rising seas ...

Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia Flood Factor​

[/b]https://riskfactor.com › neighborhood › 192649_fsid​

There are 18 properties in Naval Station Norfolk that have greater than a 26% chance of being severely affected by flooding over the next 30 years.

​

DOD, Navy Confront Climate Change Challenges in ...​

Department of Defense (.gov)
https://www.defense.gov › News › Article › Article
Jul 21, 2021 — At Naval Station Norfolk, Ballard thinks efforts to improve resilience to climate impacts are effective and are happening at the right pace. "We ...
You visited this page on 6/28/23.

​

Rising seas threaten Norfolk Naval Shipyard, raising fears ...​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › rising-s...
Nov 19, 2018 — In the past 10 years, Norfolk Naval Shipyard has suffered Nine major floods that have damaged equipment used to repair ships, and the flooding ...

​

Climate Change Threatens the U.S. Navy's Main Base in ...​

The National Interest
https://nationalinterest.org › blog › reboot › climate-c...
Mar 1, 2021 — In short, severe flooding would badly damage the infrastructure upon which Naval Station Norfolk depends. The United States has lost bases to ...

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2017 is the year Norfolk flooded because of a huge storm.

LOL!!!

There is ZERO EVIDENCE that Norfolk is in any way sinking other than posting pictures of 2017 and LYING....


What about the past year? Any evidence?

Everyone wondering can look here at Google images searched PAST YEAR

norfolk naval station - Google Search

And like the rest of planet Earth, there is noise and fudge about "ocean rise" but .... there is no ocean rise, and every time we check.... there is NO OCEAN RISE

because your side has been LYING all along about Antarctica....

 

[abu afak]

""Rising seas threaten Norfolk Naval Shipyard, raising fears ...​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › rising-s...
Nov 19, 2018 — In the past 10 years, Norfolk Naval Shipyard has suffered Nine Major Floods that have damaged equipment used to repair ships, and the flooding ...""

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[EMH]

""Rising seas threaten Norfolk Naval Shipyard, raising fears ...​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › rising-s...
Nov 19, 2018 — In the past 10 years, Norfolk Naval Shipyard has suffered Nine Major Floods that have damaged equipment used to repair ships, and the flooding ...""

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Earth to Co2 fraud MORONS = a FLOOD is not OCEAN RISE

 

[fncceo]

So, I am the admiral in charge of Norfolk Naval Station. I have a huge, multi-billion dollar budget... but, it's never enough.

What is a way I can go back to my bosses and get more money in a way that they can't refuse, but totally gets me off the hook for mismanagement?

Gee... let me think....