The US is on an "unsustainable" fiscal track, so how do we fix it? (Poll)

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

US GDP is $29.7Trillion. That equates to $445Bn, which is roughly half the 2025 defense budget. We'll do fine. Any major power that can overcome us in an invasion would be nuked anyay.


Its going to happen one way or another. The empire is over.


Separate it completely.


Thats why we separate Social Security so the billionaires don't steal it to fund tax breaks.

Social Security and Medicare is already separate you moron! It has its own tax source in FICA.

 

[dblack]

You may not agree with some or all of the above ideas, but it can't be said that I don't HAVE any. And they're not based on the agendas of either ridiculous party.

C'mon Mac. Everyone knows you're a secret Democrat. Or maybe, double secret Democrat.

I'm kidding of course, but you know that's what you'll get from these numbskulls.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Social Security and Medicare is already separate you moron! It has its own tax source in FICA.

Correct. They self-fund.
Legally end borrowing of any SS/MC surplus, and the systems will eventually right themselves.

 

[Mac1958]

C'mon Mac. Everyone knows you're a secret Democrat. Or maybe, double secret Democrat.

I'm kidding of course, but you know that's what you'll get from these numbskulls.

You can only be a mindless Trumpster or a mindless Lefty in their little world. That's it.

I realize that keeps everything simple 'n stuff, but holy crap.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Social Security and Medicare is already separate you moron! It has its own tax source in FICA.

Funds go into the same general fund though.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Correct. They self-fund.
Legally end borrowing of any SS/MC surplus, and the systems will eventually right themselves.

I agree. We are discussing the same thing.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Fire all of Washington. Replace with statesmen who want to do the job of the people, not make themselves rich, enforce strict term limits. End insider trading, and lobbyist kickbacks, that will in turn only bring people interested in helping the country to run

And everyone will have pet unicorns and a chicken in every pot!

 

[Independent thinker]

Only to blue states. Red States are the most poorly managed. I live in one so I know.

It is the dark blue states where democrats own the government that have the most income inequality, the most wealth inequality and the most homelessness.

 

[Thinker101]

The US is on an "unsustainable" fiscal track,​

and nobody has suggested we stay on it without doing anything

Well, we've seen enough Democrats talk about changing it, then do nothing.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Speaking of dumb, read your post. You are truly ignorant on this matter but your racism has you believing that you can argue with someone who has not only studied the effects of racism, but has lived facing racism and some of its effects.

So look at your second paragraph again and learn the error in your thinking. All kinds of economists are now stating that racism has created a huge loss of money for this country.

And of course you're going to provide examples of those "all kinds of economists" stating that...right, IM2? LOL

 

[BackAgain]

Incorrect. Try other sources besides FAIR and the Manhattan Institute. Sources not run by far right extremists.

IQ2 prefers leftwing “sources” with absolutely zero credibility.

 

[rightwinger]

We are escalating defense spending to a trillion a year

I would rather use the money to help struggling American families than extend military power around the globe

 

[eagle1462010]

C'mon Mac. Everyone knows you're a secret Democrat. Or maybe, double secret Democrat.

I'm kidding of course, but you know that's what you'll get from these numbskulls.

He has DNC tattoed on his ass same as you.

 

[IM2]

And of course you're going to provide examples of those "all kinds of economists" stating that...right, IM2? LOL

Google it. I've shown proof many times. So YOU not believing that racism creates economic harm for this country is not my problem and I'm not wasting time with your ass arguing it. The fact is that America has lost 51 trillion dollars since 1990 alone due to racism. And that's just the way it is. So continue disbelieving with all the rest of the far-right racists if you want to and do nothing about it, and watch what happens.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Google it. I've shown proof many times. So YOU not believing that racism creates economic harm for this country is not my problem and I'm not wasting time with your ass arguing it. The fact is that America has lost 51 trillion dollars since 1990 alone due to racism. And that's just the way it is. So continue disbelieving with all the rest of the far-right racists if you want to and do nothing about it, and watch what happens.

Typical IM2 response. Make a claim that's totally laughable and when you get called on it...declare that you've shown proof already and refuse to do so again. You're an embarrassment.

 

[IM2]

Typical IM2 response. Make a claim that's totally laughable and when you get called on it...declare that you've shown proof already and refuse to do so again. You're an embarrassment.

Except I have shown it.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-racial-inequity-adds-%2451-trillion-drag-to-the-u.s.-economy

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/15985-BPEA-BPEA-FA21_WEB_Buckman-et-al.pdf

I can keep going. I study this, chump. You are just an ignorant white airbag in a primarily white right-wing forum trying to argue based on your feelings. So if you think white racism doesn't come at a major cost to our economy, you are really the dumbest mf on erth.

 

[CowboyTed]

Ever think at looking at countries that pay their bills and ask how they do that...

Don't insult them, just try and understand them

Germany is a good example... Not every year is Champagne and Chocolates but they steadily built a fine economy, high education, low poverty, high quality of life....
Yes the Fox News & RW Media will describe some sort of hellscape much like the walking dead with rampant Communists and Gang violence...

But Geman police about 10 years ago, used 120 bullets in the whole country in a whole year... Think about that....

Germany is not the only country and there are many more... Most countries try and cherry pick the best programs that suit themselves with an eye on value for money...

 

[CowboyTed]

Typical IM2 response. Make a claim that's totally laughable and when you get called on it...declare that you've shown proof already and refuse to do so again. You're an embarrassment.

EU has many anti racism programs and they aren't broke....

Actually we have found that anti get measures and mixed economic living has massive advantages for society...

 

[task0778]

The US is on an "unsustainable" fiscal track, so how do we fix it?​

First of all, the public has to realize that we have a problem and enough people have to put some pressure on the gov't to work out a plan of some kind to deal with it. And then the gov't is going to have to stick to the plan over the long run.

Sadly, I do not believe any of that is going to happen, not anytime soon. Too many idiots think that all we have to do is print or create more money, which never works. IOW, we're fucked and not enough people seem to realize it or care.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Correct. They self-fund.
Legally end borrowing of any SS/MC surplus, and the systems will eventually right themselves.

That how the surplus earns interest on Treasury bonds. No change required. Otherwise how would it grow if it's sitting there?