The unspoken question about the Australian shooting.

[Woodznutz]

I don't know. I'm not the expert in these matters. All I can tell you is that it is pure arrogance when people presume to try to read the mind of God because first and foremost, we are trying to apply human thinking and standards to a supreme being under the assumption that everything God does must make sense to mankind, who is less than a grain of sand in all of the beaches of the world to God.

And these prophesies you refer whatever they are, who is to say they were even recorded accurately when someone wrote about them 1500 years ago?

Mind you, I'm merely pointing out how easy it is to get lost and tripped up by one's own assumptions.

The Bible is the history and prophecies concerning the "children of Israel" which includes lots of stuff about the Jews. It the best go-to source of information.

 

[Hafar1014]

There are many results and theories and conspiracies. One of them is WW 1 and WW 2 were planned. Teh then world government people consolidating power. They for some decades wanted a new Jewish State. And they enabled Hitler. There was a lot of sympathy after that war with the nastiness of the concentration camps.

Conspiracy theory no validity

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The Bible is the history and prophecies concerning the "children of Israel" which includes lots of stuff about the Jews. It the best go-to source of information.

Jesus was a Jew.


OF COURSE there is a lot of stuff about Jews.

 

[Woodznutz]

Interesting take on it, so you believe none of the Old Testament to be about God or to have come from God?

The Old Testament/covenant was the precursor to the New.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus was a Jew.


OF COURSE there is a lot of stuff about Jews.

Stuff that should be studied.

 

[toobfreak]

The Bible is the history and prophecies concerning the "children of Israel" which includes lots of stuff about the Jews. It the best go-to source of information.

I know what the Bible is, I used to study it. Do you know that books Genesis up through Deuteronomy were actually taken from the Torah?

I'm not disputing whether the Bible is the best source we have or not, just pointing out the dangers of people building conclusions on top of and out of uncertain assumptions ABOUT what is written in the Bible.

 

[Woodznutz]

True. Jesus had no intention of starting a new religion.

He’s probably turning over in his grave seeing all the antisemitism spewing out of the mouths of Christians, along with horror over how the Muslims are “infesting*” the world.

*Joe the antisemite made a comment that our government is “infested” with Jews, so I thought I’d use his word. Now watch him cry about bigotry and Islamophobia.

Infesting suggests an invasive and damaging species taking root.

 

[Lisa558]

Infesting suggests an invasive and damaging species taking root.

That I know. And that is how JoeIB referred to the Jews.

What’s your point? That Joe is an antisemite?

 

[Woodznutz]

I know what the Bible is, I used to study it. Do you know that books Genesis up through Deuteronomy were actually taken from the Torah?

I'm not disputing whether the Bible is the best source we have or not, just pointing out the dangers of people building conclusions on top of and out of uncertain assumptions ABOUT what is written in the Bible.

The first five books became the Torah, after the fact.

There is little in the Bible that cannot be understood; no assumptions needed. That said I add assumptions all the time, however my assumptions don't change the intent of the narrative.

 

[Lisa558]

The Old Testament/covenant was the precursor to the New.

According to the Christian belief….not the Jewish belief.

Both religions follow different beliefs.

 

[Lisa558]

Curious to hear what you believe His intentions were?

His intentions were to get more Jews to follow the Law, as laid out to Moses.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I know what the Bible is, I used to study it. Do you know that books Genesis up through Deuteronomy were actually taken from the Torah?

I'm not disputing whether the Bible is the best source we have or not, just pointing out the dangers of people building conclusions on top of and out of uncertain assumptions ABOUT what is written in the Bible.

Yep.

To really study, people need to place everything they read into proper context while asking questions. WHO said it? WHEN was it said? WHY was it said? Does it represent actual morality or simply social customs?

 

[Woodznutz]

According to the Christian belief….not the Jewish belief.

Both religions follow different beliefs.

Exactly. That's why Judeo-Christian is a false notion.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yep.

To really study, people need to place everything they read into proper context while asking questions. WHO said it? WHEN was it said? WHY was it said? Does it represent actual morality or simply social customs?

Don't forget to add what it plainly says.

 

[TNHarley]

You've been duped, we're going in circles. As I said, if they wanted Gaza that bad they could have taken it decades ago in any of the other wars, especially during a time before 'wokeness' and the world wouldn't have cared. There really isn't any redeeming motive for what you accuse them of, it's just nonsensical.

Yeah why not do it and have the entire world after them vs. building them up to attack them so you would have support. DERP

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Don't forget to add what it plainly says.

Not without proper attribution, no.

 

[22lcidw]

Conspiracy theory no validity

We all have our beliefs. To me it fits what we see today. The United States has to be set down a few pegs. And we are doing so. the elites are using our own selfishness against us.

 

[toobfreak]

There is little in the Bible that cannot be understood; no assumptions needed.

Then why do people continually struggle to interpret and argue what this or that means in the Bible? Take the creation of the universe in six days. How was the universe created in six days when days did not even exist at the birth of the universe? Days refer to a period of a single planet's rotation (Earth) which did not even come about to exist until 9,300 million years afterwards!

Worse, a "day" is not even a set period of time, long ago, our days were only 12 hours long, so which day does the Bible even refer to?

Do you know that when Galileo proved the Sun and not the Earth was really the center of the universe by his looking through a telescope, that the church, based on their interpretation of a single phrase in the Bible about God stopping the Sun in its tracks meant to them by /their/ interpretation that God could not have stopped the Sun unless the Sun were moving, therefore, the Sun could not be the center of the universe therefore arguing against the Ptolemaic model of the universe was indeed blasphemy against the church?

So, they took one of the brightest people of that time, a friend of Galileo's and BURNED HIM AT THE STAKE and set Galileo to house arrest for the REST OF HIS LIFE and ordered all his books banned effectively suppressing the advancement of science in all the western world for at least 200 years? Think where we might be today if our science were 200 years ahead of where it is today?

And all because of one interpretation of one line of the Bible.

Indeed, where it says that God stopped the Sun in its tracks, this doesn't mean he stopped the Sun in its orbit about the Earth, it might be interpreted to just mean that God caused the apparent position of the Sun to stop moving in our sky, or maybe, the Earth was stopped from rotating for a time.

Ideas way over the heads of the ignorant Biblical scholars of 1600.

 

[toobfreak]

Jesus was a Jew.
OF COURSE there is a lot of stuff about Jews.

I see you caught that faux pas as well.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Jesus didn't bring Judaism into the new covenant therefore, no evolution. Judaism was cut off, it didn't morph into Christianity.

We’re talking about cultural influence.