The unspoken question about the Australian shooting.

[toobfreak]

There is no evidence that God has restored his protection of the Jews.

What do you think the "authorities" can do about antisemitism?

No evidence that we have found or no of, but then, who is to say God makes a point or cares whether we have evidence of anything especially when we might not even know what such evidence might look like or that god intends--- not a denial, just pointing out that lack of evidence is lack of proof of anything. Further, we have no evidence of how such protection really acted in the past other than through the words in a book written by dozens of people over a 1500 year period long long ago seen from THEIR perspective.

As to the authorities, universities and other bodies turning a blind eye to or even supporting antisemitism must either freely defend the interests of all their students on campus (or in the Aussie PM's case, grow a pair), or at least crack down on the matter, force businesses and themselves to public admit to the problem and take a proactive stance instead of denial and rationalization.

Look at how Trump has taken a proactive stance on the border and these drug boats--- this is exactly the position all bodies of authority should be taking on terrorism against Jews.

My point being is that is is a fallacy to somehow put oneself in the position of God then try to imagine how, what or why he does what he does. I mean, the Jews have survived thousands of years of relentless persecution few have endured and survived, but despite that, not only do the Jews survive, but Israel is really in a better position today than probably anytime in its past! Maybe that is how God intends to protect them.

Sometimes God works softly in the background and maybe sometimes God has to carry a big stick and kick some ass when there is no other choice.

 

[OldFlame]

And they wouldnt have support doing that unprovoked, would they?

So what? If that was purely their end goal, to level Gaza, they would have done it anyway. How many years has there been strife between the two, and you think that's their motive now? Still doesn't explain why, why would they want Gaza leveled?

 

[TNHarley]

So what? If that was purely their end goal, to level Gaza, they would have done it anyway. How many years has there been strife between the two, and you think that's their motive now? Still doesn't explain why, why would they want Gaza leveled?

Its been there goal for decades. I cant explain this further for you.

 

[OldFlame]

Its been there goal for decades. I cant explain this further for you.

For what reason? Why is that their goal? You can't explain because you don't really know.

 

[TNHarley]

For what reason? Why is that their goal? You can't explain because you don't really know.

What is their goal for leveling gaza?
"greater israel"

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Why isn't God protecting his chosen people? It is understandable that God wouldn't protect gentiles from such incidents, but why not make manifest the close relationship he has with the Jewish people?

Serious question, not a troll.

Because they rejected God by Rejecting Christ.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Deception, and countless ulterior motives.

All humans deceive, but the Zionists do business that way.

It is actually you Muslims whose false prophet encourages you to lie.

Taquiyya , Kitman, Murana and Tiwriya are all tactics Muslims employ regularly when dealing with those who are not members of the cult and which you practice here.

 

[Woodznutz]

Christianity evolved from Judaism.

Jesus didn't bring Judaism into the new covenant therefore, no evolution. Judaism was cut off, it didn't morph into Christianity.

 

[Woodznutz]

Because they rejected God by Rejecting Christ.

Now we're getting somewhere.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Christianity evolved from Judaism.

As created primarily by Saul and Peter.

 

[Woodznutz]

No evidence that we have found or no of, but then, who is to say God makes a point or cares whether we have evidence of anything especially when we might not even know what such evidence might look like or that god intends--- not a denial, just pointing out that lack of evidence is lack of proof of anything. Further, we have no evidence of how such protection really acted in the past other than through the words in a book written by dozens of people over a 1500 year period long long ago seen from THEIR perspective.

As to the authorities, universities and other bodies turning a blind eye to or even supporting antisemitism must either freely defend the interests of all their students on campus (or in the Aussie PM's case, grow a pair), or at least crack down on the matter, force businesses and themselves to public admit to the problem and take a proactive stance instead of denial and rationalization.

Look at how Trump has taken a proactive stance on the border and these drug boats--- this is exactly the position all bodies of authority should be taking on terrorism against Jews.

My point being is that is is a fallacy to somehow put oneself in the position of God then try to imagine how, what or why he does what he does. I mean, the Jews have survived thousands of years of relentless persecution few have endured and survived, but despite that, not only do the Jews survive, but Israel is really in a better position today than probably anytime in its past! Maybe that is how God intends to protect them.

Sometimes God works softly in the background and maybe sometimes God has to carry a big stick and kick some ass when there is no other choice.

So, prophecies regarding the Jews are not valid, even if they perfectly describe what has happened to the Jews?

 

[OldFlame]

What is their goal for leveling gaza?
"greater israel"

You've been duped, we're going in circles. As I said, if they wanted Gaza that bad they could have taken it decades ago in any of the other wars, especially during a time before 'wokeness' and the world wouldn't have cared. There really isn't any redeeming motive for what you accuse them of, it's just nonsensical.

 

[OldFlame]

Jesus didn't bring Judaism into the new covenant therefore, no evolution. Judaism was cut off, it didn't morph into Christianity.

Then why was Jesus there to fulfill the law, if it had nothing to do with Judaism or Jews?

 

[toobfreak]

So, prophecies regarding the Jews are not valid, even if they perfectly describe what has happened to the Jews?

I don't know. I'm not the expert in these matters. All I can tell you is that it is pure arrogance when people presume to try to read the mind of God because first and foremost, we are trying to apply human thinking and standards to a supreme being under the assumption that everything God does must make sense to mankind, who is less than a grain of sand in all of the beaches of the world to God.

And these prophesies you refer whatever they are, who is to say they were even recorded accurately when someone wrote about them 1500 years ago?

Mind you, I'm merely pointing out how easy it is to get lost and tripped up by one's own assumptions.

 

[Lisa558]

As created primarily by Saul and Peter.

True. Jesus had no intention of starting a new religion.

He’s probably turning over in his grave seeing all the antisemitism spewing out of the mouths of Christians, along with horror over how the Muslims are “infesting*” the world.

*Joe the antisemite made a comment that our government is “infested” with Jews, so I thought I’d use his word. Now watch him cry about bigotry and Islamophobia.

 

[22lcidw]

The NAZIs were destroyed and the Jews got their land back

There are many results and theories and conspiracies. One of them is WW 1 and WW 2 were planned. Teh then world government people consolidating power. They for some decades wanted a new Jewish State. And they enabled Hitler. There was a lot of sympathy after that war with the nastiness of the concentration camps.

 

[OldFlame]

True. Jesus had no intention of starting a new religion.

He’s probably turning over in his grave seeing all the antisemitism spewing out of the mouths of Christians, along with horror over how the Muslims are “infesting*” the world.

*Joe the antisemite made a comment that our government is “infested” with Jews, so I thought I’d use his word. Now watch him cry about bigotry and Islamophobia.

Curious to hear what you believe His intentions were?

 

[Woodznutz]

Then why was Jesus there to fulfill the law, if it had nothing to do with Judaism or Jews?

He fulfilled the literal requirements of the law on behalf of all of us. He then enlarged the commandments to their true meaning. On the cross he stated, "It is finished", meaning the burden of the Law of Moses. Also, the Law was God's law, not the 'law of the Jews'. Recall that Jesus said, "The Jews sit in Moses seat", meaning that they appropriated the authority of the Levites for themselves. God allowed it temporarily. Jesus argued with the Jews but preached the new covenant to "lost sheep of the house of Israel".

 

[OldFlame]

He fulfilled the literal requirements of the law on behalf of all of us. He then enlarged the commandments to their true meaning. On the cross he stated, "It is finished", meaning the burden of the Law of Moses. Also, the Law was God's law, not the 'law of the Jews'. Recall that Jesus said, "The Jews sit in Moses seat", meaning that they appropriated the authority of the Levites for themselves. God allowed it temporarily. Jesus argued with the Jews but preached the new covenant to "lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Interesting take on it, so you believe none of the Old Testament to be about God or to have come from God?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Curious to hear what you believe His intentions were?

Since he railed against the Pharisees, my interpretation is that he wished to reform Judaism by opposing those who did everything for show.

I believe that if you wish to understand Jesus, just pick up a red-letter edition of the bible and read only the red letters.