The Unfairness of the 2024 Election. The Double Standard that exists

THese are all the same type of tropes used in 2015 and 2016. Trump will do this, trump will do that. WW3 and Nuclear war. None of that happened.

I did put links to the statistics and links to what expert economists have said. Who are you to say otherwise?
The same can be said for the dems. Isn't interesting how one take can be directly applied to other. Doesn't this say something about the state and condition of our country? Are you not upset that these are the two best candidates this country and washington has to offer?

Show me the links to the articles that say (and prove) that.

Oh and by the way, I have repeatedly stated that this election is about survival and not about betterment. I am not a fan of Harris but I am a hater of Trump. He is a destroyer. Harris simply will not be able to do much, but the country will "survive" with her. Not with him.
 
On national TV and say something clearly racist, denigrating and totally stupid? I am sorry, a comic that has been doing comedy for years and knows what works with people, would never be as stupid as that. I do not buy it. He meant to say it.


You mean that Trump continues to say things that are misconstrued for the 1000th time.

First of all, this were the statements that 2 people in the room with Trump said that he said"

"“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this. “People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.”
Okay, this could possibly be something whose meaning was misconstrued but then this is something that Trump has done many times before:

Former officials have also cited other recurring themes: his denigration of military service, his ignorance of the provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, his admiration for brutality and anti-democratic norms of behavior, and his contempt for wounded veterans and for soldiers who fell in battle.

As such, he does want officers that blindly do his bidding (such as Hitler did and expected.

Anyhow, give me your evaluation.


No matter how? Hurting innocent people if necessary? Like Hitler did?


You do know that that before 1986 (when immigration to the U.S. became controlled) and beginning in 1776, over 86 million immigrants have entered the U.S. and basically "illegally" because there were no "legal" laws on immigration before that? Those (who are our ancestors) came mostly are illegals
How many people have immigrated to America since 1776?

More than 86 million immigrants have entered the United States from 1783 to the end of 2019.imatly Of that 86 million, unauthorized immigrants coming in, there have been approximately 31 million have come in between 1986 and 2019 (after the immigrations laws were set), meaning that about 55 million illegal aliens have come into the U.S. that came in and cannot be prosecuted, given there were no laws with which to prosecute them

That is actually 1/7th of the population of the U.S. came here illegally. We are a nation of immigrants.



After 1776, "illegal immigration" in the United States was not strictly regulated as it is today, with very little bureaucracy to enforce immigration laws, meaning people could often cross borders with minimal checks

On national TV and say something clearly racist, denigrating and totally stupid? I am sorry, a comic that has been doing comedy for years and knows what works with people, would never be as stupid as that. I do not buy it. He meant to say it.

Huh? Are we talking about trump or the comic? You seem to be jumping from one to the other.

You mean that Trump continues to say things that are misconstrued for the 1000th time

I just pointed out your meme wasn’t correct I showed you why.

First of all, this were the statements that 2 people in the room with Trump said that he said"

"“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this. “People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders.”
Okay, this could possibly be something whose meaning was misconstrued but then this is something that Trump has done many times before:

Again, you seem to be drifting off our conversation. We were talking about the meme you posted. Now you’re moving off into something else.

his denigration of military service

Yeah, every time someone is selling a book, these “bombshells” come out. I always say, if these things were true, why did they remain covered until someone writes a book. Sounds more like someone is just wanting to stretch a story or just lie, to sell books

As such, he does want officers that blindly do his bidding (such as Hitler did and expected.

Really? Considering we don’t know what he meant, how can you say that. Considering he was the commander in chief, he would expect his generals to follow orders, or to be loyal, as any president would. Doesn’t mean he was elevating nazi-ism.

No matter how? Hurting innocent people if necessary? Like Hitler did?

Why are you trying to create a narrative? Of course not by hurting people, and you have no indication that trump is trying to hurt innocent people either. You’re trying so hard to make Trump look like a nazi, a result of leftist hate media.

You do know that that before 1986 (when immigration to the U.S. became controlled) and beginning in 1776, over 86 million immigrants have entered the U.S. and basically "illegally" because there were no "legal" laws on immigration before that?

We’ve had immigration laws since 1875. Yes, we have allowed immigration in the past, so, do we just leave the borders open? Do we not control our borders?
 
You do understand that Trump in 2016 did inherit a growing economy, no inflation and did get a boost from the Tax cut, don't you? You do understand that tax cuts by nature are short term beneficial but longer term damaging, don't you? You do understand that in 2016, he promised 104 things but only accomplished 25 of them, don't you? You do understand that Trump is now angry and revengeful, which he wasn't in 2016, don't you? You do understand that he has promised further tax cuts and has promised to expell all the illegal immigrants and both of those will increase the debt, increase costs and increase inflation, don't you? You do understand that 85% of the people he hired left or were fired and many of those (who know Trump very well) have stated that if reelected, he will destroy the country, don't you? You do understand that he believes that ruling like Hitler and Putin (fascists) is the way to go, don't you?

Trump is going to be more damagind and less successful now. He will make things worse. Economists have clearly stated that if he does what he has promised to do, it will be harmful to the country.

Go ahead and ignore the facts but be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Find the nearest brown paperbag and repeatedly breathe into it, find a couch to faint upon, and clutch those pearls.
MAGA's coming to GETCHYA!!!!!!!!!
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I did put links to the statistics and links to what expert economists have said. Who are you to say otherwise?
Every four years we hear: That was the previous administrations fault or doing. The same tropes every 4 years.
Show me the links to the articles that say (and prove) that.
Prove what? I'm responding to the doomsday rhetoric in your post. The same can be said and applied equally both ways.
Oh and by the way, I have repeatedly stated that this election is about survival and not about betterment.
Survival. Let's be honest, the rhetoric against trump in 2015 and into his first term was doomsday, and none of it happened.
I am not a fan of Harris but I am a hater of Trump. He is a destroyer.
Speculation, hyperbole, generalization and propaganda. Nothing in his first term happened as you suggest will in a potential 2nd term. So why the fear?
Harris simply will not be able to do much, but the country will "survive" with her. Not with him.
That's probably true.
 
Huh? Are we talking about trump or the comic? You seem to be jumping from one to the other.

Trump did not say what the comic said but this rally was about Trump supporters and that means he invited these people and he supports their beliefs.
I just pointed out your meme wasn’t correct I showed you why.

Be more specific as the way I see it, the meme is right on the button.
Again, you seem to be drifting off our conversation. We were talking about the meme you posted. Now you’re moving off into something else.

Remind me of exactly what you are fighting against.
Yeah, every time someone is selling a book, these “bombshells” come out. I always say, if these things were true, why did they remain covered until someone writes a book. Sounds more like someone is just wanting to stretch a story or just lie, to sell books

In order to sell a non-fiction book you need to have a story that is based on fact. The success of the book is dependent on the facts themselves. Books that non-fiction that cannot be proven are not successful.
Really? Considering we don’t know what he meant, how can you say that. Considering he was the commander in chief, he would expect his generals to follow orders, or to be loyal, as any president would. Doesn’t mean he was elevating nazi-ism.

The statement was clear as a bell. Hitler's generals did everything that Hitler asked, no matter is human rights were broken. That is what Trump wants..............Generals that will do his bidding no matter what.
Why are you trying to create a narrative? Of course not by hurting people, and you have no indication that trump is trying to hurt innocent people either. You’re trying so hard to make Trump look like a nazi, a result of leftist hate media.

You mean that the judges, the prosecutors, Democrats in general are automatically guilty? Or are most of them just doing their job or what they personally believe is right?
We’ve had immigration laws since 1875. Yes, we have allowed immigration in the past, so, do we just leave the borders open? Do we not control our borders?

Of course we need to control our borders and right now the Democrats are also fighting to do that. Illegal immigration has come down this year (every month lower than the previous one) and in January the committee that was working on a solution did come up with one that was more in favor of the Republicans than the Democrats and Trump turned it down. Evidently, he was willing to keep illegal immigrants coming in this year so that he could get elected.
 
I think a person who has served as a AG, Senator and Vice president is well qulified to run for president over a convicted felon.
I would just ask what major accomplishment from Kamala stands out over the last 3 1/2 years?
 
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the 2024 election is about as unfair as it gets. Kamala has to be flawless and Trump is allowed to be lawless.



Trump is allowed to insult, debase, attack, and not address the issues (not answer the questions asked) but Kamala has to do everything asked or she is insulted, debased, attacked and thought badly of.

How can an election be truly debated or fought for with such a double standard in place?

Your thread gave me a good chuckle to start my day, thanks! :laugh:
 
Trump did not say what the comic said but this rally was about Trump supporters and that means he invited these people and he supports their beliefs.


Be more specific as the way I see it, the meme is right on the button.


Remind me of exactly what you are fighting against.


In order to sell a non-fiction book you need to have a story that is based on fact. The success of the book is dependent on the facts themselves. Books that non-fiction that cannot be proven are not successful.


The statement was clear as a bell. Hitler's generals did everything that Hitler asked, no matter is human rights were broken. That is what Trump wants..............Generals that will do his bidding no matter what.


You mean that the judges, the prosecutors, Democrats in general are automatically guilty? Or are most of them just doing their job or what they personally believe is right?


Of course we need to control our borders and right now the Democrats are also fighting to do that. Illegal immigration has come down this year (every month lower than the previous one) and in January the committee that was working on a solution did come up with one that was more in favor of the Republicans than the Democrats and Trump turned it down. Evidently, he was willing to keep illegal immigrants coming in this year so that he could get elected.

Trump did not say what the comic said but this rally was about Trump supporters and that means he invited these people and he supports their beliefs.

Who says? They invited a comic, doubtful the trump staff went over his bit line by line. I don’t believe just because you invite talent to your rally that means you support all their beliefs.

Look at some of the artists that Harris has had at her rallies. Some of them have had comtroversial lyrics in their songs. Does that mean Harris supports those beliefs?

Be more specific as the way I see it, the meme is right on the button.

I was specific, I the post where I addressed it originally.

In order to sell a non-fiction book you need to have a story that is based on fact. The success of the book is dependent on the facts themselves. Books that non-fiction that cannot be proven are not successful.

Except when parts of the book are not based on fact. When it comes to political books, if you have “juicy bits” in them, they will sell more books, doesn’t matter if they are true or not. People want to read anything they can that’s negative to trump. All these bombshells seemingly remained covered up until someone writes about them in a book. I find that improbable, due to the many leaks in the Trump campaign, and all of the people that apparently hate him, that, if any of these things were true, they would have come out already. It’s like the author of the book was the only one to hear them, and saved it for a book that he was writing. That doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Also, one would ask, if that were true, why wouldn’t they come forward immediately, for the good of the country? Seems they sat on this detrimental information, in order to sell books and increase profit….or…none of it is true.

The statement was clear as a bell. Hitler's generals did everything that Hitler asked, no matter is human rights were broken. That is what Trump wants..............Generals that will do his bidding no matter what.
You just made that up. Trump never said any of that, but the left, ever on the attack, has to create a narrative. Nobody has a clue what he meant. He could have just been talking about loyalty, which every presidents wants their generals to be loyal. Nobody said anything about human rights or any of that, you all just added that in.

The reason why is because, for the last 9 years, the left have been creating a narrative around Trump, so now, when someone says something, it’s easy to believe because they have been conditioned for 9 years to think that way. Like 90% of the cloud surrounding trump was fabricated by the left..

You mean that the judges, the prosecutors, Democrats in general are automatically guilty? Or are most of them just doing their job or what they personally believe is right?

I have no idea where you are going with this. You asked if trump wanted to make America great like hitler did, by hurting people. I said that’s not what he meant. I’m not sure where you are going by talking about guilty judges, prosecutors, democrats. What are you referring to?

Of course we need to control our borders and right now the Democrats are also fighting to do that. Illegal immigration has come down this year (every month lower than the previous one) and in January the committee that was working on a solution did come up with one that was more in favor of the Republicans than the Democrats and Trump turned it down. Evidently, he was willing to keep illegal immigrants coming in this year so that he could get elected.

Immigration was high until it started getting close to election season. The border is a big issue so they clamped down on immigration for optics during the election.

Democrats are not fighting to protect the border, they could do it right now by just closing the border. The bill they tried to pass would have legalized over 600,000 crossings per year, and that’s just known people. The got aways were not even considered.

Also, the bill wasn’t automatic, it gave the president the OPTION to close the border if crossings reached the threshold, but there was no requirement. That bill would have done nothing to stop illegal entry, if Biden didn’t want to act on it.

Also, many republicans were already against that bill even before Trump said anything about it.

There is that HR2 bill that sits on schumers desk, supposedly it’s good, and Schumer refuses to bring it to the table. Seems dems are not really interested in actual border security, just the optics of border security.
 
Who says? They invited a comic, doubtful the trump staff went over his bit line by line. I don’t believe just because you invite talent to your rally that means you support all their beliefs.

Look at some of the artists that Harris has had at her rallies. Some of them have had comtroversial lyrics in their songs. Does that mean Harris supports those beliefs?

If nothing else and given that it is a Trump rally, either Trump or his staff should know beforehand what every speaker is going to say. After all, look at the backlash of what the comic said. It is certainly not beneficial to Trump. It is a big negative. This means he (or his staff) are incompetent (once again).
I was specific, I the post where I addressed it originally.

Except when parts of the book are not based on fact. When it comes to political books, if you have “juicy bits” in them, they will sell more books, doesn’t matter if they are true or not. People want to read anything they can that’s negative to trump. All these bombshells seemingly remained covered up until someone writes about them in a book. I find that improbable, due to the many leaks in the Trump campaign, and all of the people that apparently hate him, that, if any of these things were true, they would have come out already. It’s like the author of the book was the only one to hear them, and saved it for a book that he was writing. That doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Also, one would ask, if that were true, why wouldn’t they come forward immediately, for the good of the country? Seems they sat on this detrimental information, in order to sell books and increase profit….or…none of it is true.

Bob Woodward is a highly regarded and reputable interviewer. He has interviewed 10 presidents and has interviewed Trump 20 times (evidently Trump regards Woodward as reputable of he would never have allowed 20 interviews to happen. He has proven over and over again that he is not biased (totally partisan) as he has given both positive and negative comments about everyone he has ever interviewed.

Bob Woodward has no reason to lie or attempt to embellish anything in order to make money as it would reduce his reputation if found out. Given that he has been around for 50 years interviewing presidents and has gained a high reputation (lead journalist for the Washington Post), he has to be given all the benefit of the doubt (which you are not giving him). He has earned it.
You just made that up. Trump never said any of that, but the left, ever on the attack, has to create a narrative. Nobody has a clue what he meant. He could have just been talking about loyalty, which every presidents wants their generals to be loyal. Nobody said anything about human rights or any of that, you all just added that in.

Exact words that Trump said:

"Hitler did some good things"
" I need the kind of generals that Hitler had"

You can interpret the words the way you want, but he did say that.
The reason why is because, for the last 9 years, the left have been creating a narrative around Trump, so now, when someone says something, it’s easy to believe because they have been conditioned for 9 years to think that way. Like 90% of the cloud surrounding trump was fabricated by the left..

People generally are what they have shown themselves to be. In addition, when Trump supporters have to ALWAYS find an excuse for something that Trump said (into the thousands of excuses now), the one thing that comes to mind is "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it is probably a duck".
I have no idea where you are going with this. You asked if trump wanted to make America great like hitler did, by hurting people. I said that’s not what he meant. I’m not sure where you are going by talking about guilty judges, prosecutors, democrats. What are you referring to?
He has stated he wants revenge on those he feels have come after him illegally (which is most everyone on the left).
Immigration was high until it started getting close to election season. The border is a big issue so they clamped down on immigration for optics during the election.

No, the immigration issue got out of hand and everyone wants to fix it. You do remember that they agreed in January on a deal where the Republicans were gettin 80% of what they were asking for and it was Trump that nixed the deal (for the sake of using it for the ELECTION).
Democrats are not fighting to protect the border, they could do it right now by just closing the border. The bill they tried to pass would have legalized over 600,000 crossings per year, and that’s just known people. The got aways were not even considered.

Not true. That news from the Right has been debunked as fake.
Also, the bill wasn’t automatic, it gave the president the OPTION to close the border if crossings reached the threshold, but there was no requirement. That bill would have done nothing to stop illegal entry, if Biden didn’t want to act on it.

Also, many republicans were already against that bill even before Trump said anything about it.

There is that HR2 bill that sits on schumers desk, supposedly it’s good, and Schumer refuses to bring it to the table. Seems dems are not really interested in actual border security, just the optics of border security.

I do not agree. The border is a problem and it is bigger than they ever anticipated and the Democrats are trying to fix it. Perhaps not as sternly as the Right wants, but they do want to bring the number substantially lower.

Now on the other side, answer the fact that Trump wants to impose Project 2025.
 
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