JoeB131
Diamond Member
The biggest problem I see with those on the anti-abortion side is that they never tell you how they are going to enforce a ban on abortion.
Lest, we forget, the main reason why the Court (including 5 Republicans) voted to end abortion laws in the US is because they were being routinely ignored by women and their health care providers. The court was merely recognizing the reality the prudes failed to admit.
If anyone doubts this, we only need to look at the birth rates for the 1970's.
www.infoplease.com
There was no sudden drop in the live birth rate because abortions were now available. In fact, it leveled off in 1973.
Why? Because abortion laws were being routinely ignored. Despite all the horror stories told by the abortion rights side about coat hangers and Lysol, most women were ending unwanted pregnancies in the comfort of their OB/GYN's office. Women were never arrested for having abortions, and providers were rarely prosecuted unless some kind of negligence that injured the women was involved
So you get the laws on the books you want in half the country, what happens? Abortions will simply move from abortion clinics back to OB/GYN offices.
if anything, an abortion ban will be harder to enforce in 2022 than in 1973, because more states WILL keep it legal now, because it will be much easier to cross state lines, and because the option of pharmaceutical abortions will be available.
Laws only really work when you have universal agreement there should be a law. If you don't, police won't investigate, prosecutors won't file charges, and juries won't convict.
The first prosecution for a woman for having an abortion will be a lightening rod of unpopularity. The only time I remember Trump ever backing down from saying something really stupid ws when he said that women should be punished for having abortions, and then immediately reversing himself.
www.theguardian.com
Lest, we forget, the main reason why the Court (including 5 Republicans) voted to end abortion laws in the US is because they were being routinely ignored by women and their health care providers. The court was merely recognizing the reality the prudes failed to admit.
If anyone doubts this, we only need to look at the birth rates for the 1970's.
Live Births and Birth Rates, by Year
The following table shows the number of live births and the birth rate in the United States between 1910 and...
1970 | 3,731,386 | 18.4 |
1971 | 3,555,970 | 17.2 |
1972 | 3,258,411 | 15.6 |
1973 | 3,136,965 | 14.9 |
1974 | 3,159,958 | 14.9 |
1975 | 3,144,198 | 14.8 |
1976 | 3,167,788 | 14.8 |
There was no sudden drop in the live birth rate because abortions were now available. In fact, it leveled off in 1973.
Why? Because abortion laws were being routinely ignored. Despite all the horror stories told by the abortion rights side about coat hangers and Lysol, most women were ending unwanted pregnancies in the comfort of their OB/GYN's office. Women were never arrested for having abortions, and providers were rarely prosecuted unless some kind of negligence that injured the women was involved
So you get the laws on the books you want in half the country, what happens? Abortions will simply move from abortion clinics back to OB/GYN offices.
if anything, an abortion ban will be harder to enforce in 2022 than in 1973, because more states WILL keep it legal now, because it will be much easier to cross state lines, and because the option of pharmaceutical abortions will be available.
Laws only really work when you have universal agreement there should be a law. If you don't, police won't investigate, prosecutors won't file charges, and juries won't convict.
The first prosecution for a woman for having an abortion will be a lightening rod of unpopularity. The only time I remember Trump ever backing down from saying something really stupid ws when he said that women should be punished for having abortions, and then immediately reversing himself.
Donald Trump retracts call for women who have abortions to be 'punished'
Republican frontrunner tells MSNBC there needs to be ‘some form of punishment’ for women, though he later disavowed controversial remarks
www.theguardian.com
