The Ukrainian "Peace Deal" is proving to be a Scam

[JimH52]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

 

[Crepitus]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

Those of us with functioning brains knew that was gonna be the case.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Those of us with functioning brains knew that was gonna be the case.

But he got a reset.
And more flexibility.
And the 1980s called.

 

[MisterBeale]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

The Biden administration refused to even talk.

Not during the entire cold war, have we had such a stoopid administration when it came to foreign policy.



. . . did Trump make it seem like getting out of this would be easy? Yep, he sure as hell did.

Timeline of how Trump’s pledge to end the war in Ukraine hit reality​

11:16 AM EDT, Wed March 26, 2025

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/europe/timeline-trumps-pledge-to-end-ukraine-war/index.html

WATCH: Trump promises to 'settle' war in Ukraine if elected

Former President Donald Trump said if reelected he would end the war in Ukraine before his inauguration because he is respected by Ukraine and Russia’s leaders.

www.pbs.org

 

[JWBooth]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

You again? Your fucktardery knows no bounds.
Zelenskyy will be the one to violate this limited cease fire just as he has with all agreements in the past.

 

[JimH52]

Those of us with functioning brains knew that was gonna be the case.

I expect that trump and Poootin got together beforehand and cooked up this scam, so that the Murderer can have more time to kill Ukrainians and take more territory.

 

[jbrownson0831]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

So...you're happy now that the war can continue, or what jimboliar??

 

[jbrownson0831]

I expect that trump and Poootin got together beforehand and cooked up this scam, so that the Murderer can have more time to kill Ukrainians and take more territory.

But he has already been doing that for years under Poopeypants.

 

[MarcATL]

Trump's failing on all fronts.

 

[MisterBeale]

Prof. Gilbert Doctorow : Kremlin’s View of Trump Administration Foibles.​

Streamed live on Mar 27, 2025

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

Trump, forever Putin's useful idiot.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Trump, forever Putin's useful idiot.

Sounds like you are the useful idiot. Trump is simply trying to end a senseless war.

 

[eagle1462010]

OMG

Trump Trump Trump

Same shit for 8 years.

 

[mudwhistle]

MSN

Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.

Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.

Who is surprised? Putin and trump have worked out a deal to repeat "cease fire, peace" over and over until the world and Ukraine relaxes for a moment. The Putin has the opportunity to intensify his attack on portions of Ukraine. trump needs a cease fire for his ego. But Putin plays the delay and lie game. He will drag his feet, as even trump admits, and say the right words...while at the same time order devastating strikes on civilians. Putin and trump cannot be trusted.

Funny how the 60s the left was against war. Thanks for cheering for war.

Up until Trump was sworn in nobody was even bothering to hold peace talks.

We both know that war makes people rich.

And they do it with the blood of the poor dying so they can make money.

In the 60s I was a Democrat, but now I support peace, unlike you warmongering leftists.

 

[TimFitz]

You again? Your fucktardery knows no bounds.
Zelenskyy will be the one to violate this limited cease fire just as he has with all agreements in the past.

The Russians already violated it. Your supposition is moot.

Oh, and Putin upped the ante to the Americans, who have given in to every demand Putin has made.

Now, Trump is making noises about leaning on Zelinsky again.

Fighting for freedom and self determination was always a focus on American leadership.

Not to Trump.

He is doing Putin’s bidding.

It’s disgusting, a violation of everything we stand for, and a loud proclamation of the collapse of American world leadership.

 

[TimFitz]

Funny how the 60s the left was against war. Thanks for cheering for war.

Up until Trump was sworn in nobody was even bothering to hold peace talks.

We both know that war makes people rich.

And they do it with the blood of the poor dying so they can make money.

In the 60s I was a Democrat, but now I support peace, unlike you warmongering leftists.

No, we, along with NATO and the free world supported Ukraine.

Your false analogy about the ‘60’s is particularly dishonest.

Protests from that era involve our war, not someone else’s.

A more accurate analogy is American public opinion regarding the Hungarian crisis of 1956, the Prague Spring in 1968, and the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1980.
Even now, most Americans support Ukraine, as does the rest of the free world.

Putin annd his stooge, Trump, are the outliers.

The world knows that a Ukranian victory would fundamentally alter the geopolitical ace of power in the world toward the U.S. and NATO.

But Trump I doing his best to insure a divided NATO and a Russian victory in Ukraine.

He has been making a fool of himself with this “peacemaker” BS.

He is openly siding with Moscow, against the interests of Ukraine,NATO and the United States.

The Russians told him up from that they were not interested in peace. They have repeated themselves consistantly ever since.

The latest being the big phone call between Putin and Trump. Putin let Trump sit on hold for over an hour and then repeated that they were not interested in any deal.
.

 

[JimH52]

The Russians already violated it. Your supposition is moot.

Oh, and Putin upped the ante to the Americans, who have given in to every demand Putin has made.

Now, Trump is making noises about leaning on Zelinsky again.

Fighting for freedom and self determination was always a focus on American leadership.

Not to Trump.

He is doing Putin’s bidding.

It’s disgusting, a violation of everything we stand for, and a loud proclamation of the collapse of American world leadership.

We are soon to become just another Russian Satellite State. Poootin will be out Prime Minister and trump will be his b*tch.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Revealed: Trump’s plan to force Ukraine to restore Putin’s gas empire​

Access Restricted

Donald Trump is holding a gun to the head of Volodymyr Zelensky, demanding huge reparations payments and laying claim to half of Ukraine’s oil, gas, and hydrocarbon resources as well as almost all its metals and much of its infrastructure.

The latest version of his “minerals deal”, obtained by The Telegraph, is unprecedented in the history of modern diplomacy and state relations.

“It is an expropriation document,” said Alan Riley, an expert on energy law at the Atlantic Council. “There are no guarantees, no defence clauses, the US puts up nothing.



“The Americans can walk away, the Ukrainians can’t. I’ve never seen anything like it before.”

The text leaves little doubt that Mr Trump’s chief objective is to incorporate Ukraine as a province of America’s oil, gas and resource industries.

It dovetails with parallel talks between the US and Russia for a comprehensive energy partnership, including plans to restore West Siberian gas flows to Europe in large volumes, with US companies and Trump-aligned financiers gaining a major stake in the business.

The revived gas trade would flow through Ukraine’s network, and later via the Baltic as the sabotaged Nord Stream pipelines are brought back on stream.

The new draft states that the United States-Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund will control Ukraine’s “critical minerals or other minerals, oil, natural gas (including liquified [sic] natural gas), fuels or other hydrocarbons and other extractable materials”.

All critical materials listed in the US Energy Act are covered, including both rare earths and 50 other minerals such as lithium, titanium, cobalt, aluminium and zinc.



The US will control infrastructure linked to natural resources “including, but not limited to, roads, rail, pipelines and other transportation assets; ports, terminals and other logistics facilities and refineries, processing facilities, natural gas liquefaction and/or regasification facilities and similar assets”.

Three of the five board members on the new fund will be chosen by the US. It will have “A” shares and golden shares. America will receive all the royalties until Ukraine has paid off at least $100bn of war debt to the US, with 4pc interest added – less than the $350bn floated earlier by Mr Trump but still half of Ukraine’s GDP, and unpayable.

Ukraine has only “B’ shares and will receive 50pc of the royalties only once its arrears are paid off.

The fund is registered in Delaware but under New York jurisdiction. The US has the first right of refusal on all projects. It has authority to examine the books and accounts of any Ukrainian ministry or agency whenever it wants during working hours.

 

[jbrownson0831]

We are soon to become just another Russian Satellite State. Poootin will be out Prime Minister and trump will be his b*tch.

We? You don't live in our country jimboliar, you hate America.

 

[JimH52]

No, we, along with NATO and the free world supported Ukraine.

Your false analogy about the ‘60’s is particularly dishonest.

Protests from that era involve our war, not someone else’s.

A more accurate analogy is American public opinion regarding the Hungarian crisis of 1956, the Prague Spring in 1968, and the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1980.
Even now, most Americans support Ukraine, as does the rest of the free world.

Putin annd his stooge, Trump, are the outliers.

The world knows that a Ukranian victory would fundamentally alter the geopolitical ace of power in the world toward the U.S. and NATO.

But Trump I doing his best to insure a divided NATO and a Russian victory in Ukraine.

He has been making a fool of himself with this “peacemaker” BS.

He is openly siding with Moscow, against the interests of Ukraine,NATO and the United States.

The Russians told him up from that they were not interested in peace. They have repeated themselves consistantly ever since.

The latest being the big phone call between Putin and Trump. Putin let Trump sit on hold for over an hour and then repeated that they were not interested in any deal.
.

If someone does not stop trump, he will be dining with Poootin soon. Hell, he is already sending messages to him and refuses to let media know what he is saying to the MURDERER CALL POOOTIN.