The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity

[Lonestar_logic]

I see the nation founded on Christian principles will not answer my question.
Again, what was the first domestic crisis this nation faced after it was founded?
And what Christian principle influenced it?

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

 

[Gadawg73]

I see the nation founded on Christian principles will not answer my question.
Again, what was the first domestic crisis this nation faced after it was founded?
And what Christian principle influenced it?

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

 

[AllieBaba]

Oh c'mon.

That's ridiculous.

 

[AllieBaba]

"the religious people of that day"...

Pffft...lololol...what a clueless blowhard.

 

[uscitizen]

I see the nation founded on Christian principles will not answer my question.
Again, what was the first domestic crisis this nation faced after it was founded?
And what Christian principle influenced it?

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

Yep and the tax had to be paid in specie ie money and trhe western areas relied more on barter and had very little money.
Whiskey was money to them.

 

[Gadawg73]

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

Yep and the tax had to be paid in specie ie money and trhe western areas relied more on barter and had very little money.
Whiskey was money to them.

Don't confuse Allie with the facts.

 

[AllieBaba]

I have never heard, and can't find, anything that identifies Tories as particularly "religious".

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I see the nation founded on Christian principles will not answer my question.
Again, what was the first domestic crisis this nation faced after it was founded?
And what Christian principle influenced it?

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

Yes, its called "The crisis of 1816-1819"

The whiskey rebellion wasn't what I would call a crisis.

And to say religion had anything to do with the rebellion is a stretch.

The rebellion was nothing more than a citizen revolt against the tax on whiskey, hardly a crisis.

 

[AllieBaba]

And when I want to be confused by facts, I certainly wouldn't look to you two to accomplish it.

 

[uscitizen]

To answer your first question:

The crisis of 1816-1819.

Answer to your second question:

The crisis had nothing to do with religion.

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

Yes, its called "The crisis of 1816-1819"

The whiskey rebellion wasn't what I would call a crisis.

And to say religion had anything to do with the rebellion is a stretch.

The rebellion was nothing more than a citizen revolt against the tax on whiskey, hardly a crisis.

Not a crisis? Washington gathered more troops for the whiskey rebellion than for any revoloutionary war battle to march on the western lands to enforce the whiskey tax.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

"The crisis of 1816-1819"
Is there a name to that crisis Lonestar?

The Whiskey Rebellion Lonestar. Most westerners called it the Whiskey Insurrection.
First crisis of this nation and it had everything to do with YOUR claims that this nation was founded on Christian principles.
The excise tax was political to the core as Hamilton passed it.
Eastern distillers were large distillers that were either the Founders themselves owning them or having a large share of ownership and were influential in the support of he revolution. The religous people of that day, the Torries that supported the crown monarch King in England, ya know Lonestar-those folks we defeated, were always against the influence those distillers had on our government. Even in Colonial times the religous Torries were against drinking in many instances.
The western distillers were maily Mom and Pop operations and were unfairly taxed under Hamilton's plan. They did not receive the large tax breaks under Hamilton's plan. Additionally, they paid a higher tax per gallon. The few Torries there were in the western states were Christian religous sects that opposed all drinking.
Do they teach history in Texas?

Yes, its called "The crisis of 1816-1819"

The whiskey rebellion wasn't what I would call a crisis.

And to say religion had anything to do with the rebellion is a stretch.

The rebellion was nothing more than a citizen revolt against the tax on whiskey, hardly a crisis.

Not a crisis? Washington gathered more troops for the whiskey rebellion than for any revoloutionary war battle to march on the western lands to enforce the whiskey tax.

That's right it wasn't a crisis.

A few people were killed and you call that a crisis.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm struggling to make the weird connection to the Torrie Religious Sects, lolololololol....

I've never in my entire life heard this particular version...

LOLOLOL!!

 

[AllieBaba]

Can I join a Torrie Religious Sect?

I think gadawg has invented his own religion, complete with fake history and dogma.

The Torrie Sect of Whiskey Rebellion fame!!!

 

[Gadawg73]

Allie claims we are a nation founded on Christian principles in this thread and in another thread advocates the welfare system that gives an 18 year old unwed mother government cash, a house to live, food, free medical care, etc. all forced on the taxpayers.
During the late 1700s unwed mothers had to post a cash bond to the courts for the child's support or face incarceration. Many courts fined unwed mothers for having an out of wedlock chuld and banned her from that community. Some courts imposed lashes to the feet and public whippings of unwed mothers for having a child out of wedlock.
Unwed mothers were common among indeutured servants because these women were prevented by law from marrying until they completed their servitude. The large % of those pregnancies were from their masters. In addition to the fines and punishments faced by free unwed mothers in those times when we were a "nation founded on Christian principles" the courts required unwed indentured servant mothers mostly impregnated by their masters, to compensate their masters for the losses due to their pregnancy and confinement, usually in the form of an extra year of service.
Yes, our Founders were such fine Christian men and we were founded on their Christian principles.
You people are dumb as a box of rocks and don't have the discipline to know the history of your own country,

 

[uscitizen]

Bring back the good ol days

 

[AllieBaba]

Allie claims we are a nation founded on Christian principles in this thread and in another thread advocates the welfare system that gives an 18 year old unwed mother government cash, a house to live, food, free medical care, etc. all forced on the taxpayers.
During the late 1700s unwed mothers had to post a cash bond to the courts for the child's support or face incarceration. Many courts fined unwed mothers for having an out of wedlock chuld and banned her from that community. Some courts imposed lashes to the feet and public whippings of unwed mothers for having a child out of wedlock.
Unwed mothers were common among indeutured servants because these women were prevented by law from marrying until they completed their servitude. The large % of those pregnancies were from their masters. In addition to the fines and punishments faced by free unwed mothers in those times when we were a "nation founded on Christian principles" the courts required unwed indentured servant mothers mostly impregnated by their masters, to compensate their masters for the losses due to their pregnancy and confinement, usually in the form of an extra year of service.
Yes, our Founders were such fine Christian men and we were founded on their Christian principles.
You people are dumb as a box of rocks and don't have the discipline to know the history of your own country,

You really shouldn't be talking about other people being dumb as rocks.

Please share more about the religious aspec of the *Torrie* (sic) religious sect, you loon.

Furthermore, explain how whether or not the founding fathers were individually *good* Christians in your opinion has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not the country was founded on Christian principle? You idiot. It has absolutely nothing to do with it. The fact that more than 200 years ago America had a slave trade and laws that punished women for having out of wedlock children has nothing whatever to do with it.

I think this last post of yours pretty effectively indicates you have exhausted your pathetic argument. Between making the false assumption that the US can't be founded upon Christian values because you don't approve of the old laws, and your sad little foray into trying to distract with red herrings from other threads shows you're out of material.

Good. Maybe now you'll shut up and try actually reading a little instead of lambasting us with your garbage.

 

[peach174]

We are a Christian nation and always have been.

American Christian History and Heritage

 

[HUGGY]

We are a Christian nation and always have been.

American Christian History and Heritage

No. We are not. We are a non theological republic with a citizenry that is a majority being associated with the Christian religion.

Christians are pushy fantasizing fucks that would like this to be a Christian theocracy but it will not happen.

 

[peach174]

You should read more American history. George Washington was very much so a Christian.The majority that signed the constitution were Christian.
The majority of Europeans that moved here was Christian. They moved here to practice their way of worship. The very first colonists were Christian's.

 

[bodecea]

You should read more American history. George Washington was very much so a Christian.The majority that signed the constitution were Christian.

So? They were also white...is this a white nation? They were also men...is this a nation of men only? They were also a majority of Anglo-Saxon...are we a nation of Anglo-Saxons? They were also mostly rich to middle class...are we a nation of rich/middle class? They went OUT OF THEIR WAY to phrase our Constitution so that religion....particularly Christianity...would NOT be a part of the government.

The majority of Europeans that moved here was Christian. They moved here to practice their way of worship. The very first colonists were Christian's.

The First Colonists in Virginia were here for profit and one of the first "christian" things they did was kill the natives and take their land.

Once of the First Colonies in New England were the Puritans and one of the first "christian" things they did was kill the natives and take their land...then they turned on other christians like the Quakers and hung them...and banished or killed anyone who disagreed with their theocratic ideas.

Fun stuff to look up at from our Ancestors, eh?

Note: I would like to add that the REASON the European settlers were Christian was because if you were NOT a christian in Europe, they killed you.