Does the demise of the Twinkie mean the Twinkie defense will die with it?
haha Funny I thought about that back when this story starting hitting the news.
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Does the demise of the Twinkie mean the Twinkie defense will die with it?
It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
That's not even true you ignorant twat wrinkle. The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
You will of course back up this charge with a copy of the Union contracts. Oh and be aware there are more than one contract among these unions.
Just for the record, I support unionization. I however do not support BS lies and propaganda offered from either companies or unions.
Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers’ pensions last year. If anyone here thinks unions can't be foolishly greedy themselves then you are not paying attention or have never been a part of one.
For reference:
BCTGM | The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union | The BCTGM represents working men and women at some of the best known companies throughout the U.S. and Canada. We represent manufacturing, production workers,
Now also read this article from way back in Feb. 2012
The Teamsters Union Is Taking Away Our Twinkies - Forbes
When they say "union agreement" they really mean the agreement between the union and the company. The company already agreed to pay raises and other compensation that total 31 million. Then they ask not to have to pay it. The asshole is the company that wants to get out of its signed contract - not the union that demands they uphold their end of the contract.Union agreements mandate pay raises and other compensation costs that will total $31 million this year.
That's not even true you ignorant twat wrinkle. The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
You will of course back up this charge with a copy of the Union contracts. Oh and be aware there are more than one contract among these unions.
Just for the record, I support unionization. I however do not support BS lies and propaganda offered from either companies or unions.
Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers pensions last year. If anyone here thinks unions can't be foolishly greedy themselves then you are not paying attention or have never been a part of one.
For reference:
BCTGM | The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union | The BCTGM represents working men and women at some of the best known companies throughout the U.S. and Canada. We represent manufacturing, production workers,
Now also read this article from way back in Feb. 2012
The Teamsters Union Is Taking Away Our Twinkies - Forbes
Sorry but you linked to a Forbes article.
Why do I have to supply the actual union contracts but for you a news article is good enough?
From your article
When they say "union agreement" they really mean the agreement between the union and the company. The company already agreed to pay raises and other compensation that total 31 million. Then they ask not to have to pay it. The asshole is the company that wants to get out of its signed contract - not the union that demands they uphold their end of the contract.Union agreements mandate pay raises and other compensation costs that will total $31 million this year.
The Union, BTW, eventually allowed the company to renege on its pension obligations.
That's not even true you ignorant twat wrinkle. The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
\You will of course back up this charge with a copy of the Union contracts. Oh and be aware there are more than one contract among these unions.
Just for the record, I support unionization. I however do not support BS lies and propaganda offered from either companies or unions.
Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers pensions last year. If anyone here thinks unions can't be foolishly greedy themselves then you are not paying attention or have never been a part of one.
For reference:
BCTGM | The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union | The BCTGM represents working men and women at some of the best known companies throughout the U.S. and Canada. We represent manufacturing, production workers,
Now also read this article from way back in Feb. 2012
The Teamsters Union Is Taking Away Our Twinkies - Forbes
Sorry but you linked to a Forbes article.
Why do I have to supply the actual union contracts but for you a news article is good enough?
From your article
When they say "union agreement" they really mean the agreement between the union and the company. The company already agreed to pay raises and other compensation that total 31 million. Then they ask not to have to pay it. The asshole is the company that wants to get out of its signed contract - not the union that demands they uphold their end of the contract.
The Union, BTW, eventually allowed the company to renege on its pension obligations.
I am simply offering news info on the topic for both sides not making dumbass claims. You sir are the one making claims. I know a thing or two about unions, contracts and negotiations so please do pony up the actual contract or proposal that was on the table that backs up your claim. This is why I gave you the union website to help you.
That claim you made would be:
That's not even true you ignorant twat wrinkle. The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
\Sorry but you linked to a Forbes article.
Why do I have to supply the actual union contracts but for you a news article is good enough?
From your article
When they say "union agreement" they really mean the agreement between the union and the company. The company already agreed to pay raises and other compensation that total 31 million. Then they ask not to have to pay it. The asshole is the company that wants to get out of its signed contract - not the union that demands they uphold their end of the contract.
The Union, BTW, eventually allowed the company to renege on its pension obligations.
I am simply offering news info on the topic for both sides not making dumbass claims. You sir are the one making claims. I know a thing or two about unions, contracts and negotiations so please do pony up the actual contract or proposal that was on the table that backs up your claim. This is why I gave you the union website to help you.
That claim you made would be:
That's not even true you ignorant twat wrinkle. The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
I'm simply offering news of past union contracts, I'm not making any claims.
The Union has done nothing but take pay cuts while the management milks the place dry.
It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
Hostess Resets Executive Pay - Industry News - Retail Leader
Try again.
After seeing some backlash, Hostess Brands said it will chop the salaries of its four highest-paid managers to $1 until Dec. 31 or it emerges from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
Why is it all these high paid union workers buy all this foreign crap instead of the higher priced "Made In America" products? Look at all the union workers shopping at wal-mart. Shouldn't they all be supporting American Made?
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
Why is it all these high paid union workers buy all this foreign crap instead of the higher priced "Made In America" products? Look at all the union workers shopping at wal-mart. Shouldn't they all be supporting American Made?
Shouldn't WE all be supporting American Made?
Why is it all these high paid union workers buy all this foreign crap instead of the higher priced "Made In America" products? Look at all the union workers shopping at wal-mart. Shouldn't they all be supporting American Made?
Shouldn't WE all be supporting American Made?
Not if its overpriced crap
Wow...I remember when those idiots struck themselves right out of a job.....lol The labor divisions on their loading and shipping dock alone were in the ludicrous zone.A judge has ordered Hostess and the union to get back to the table and try again to work out a deal to avoid liquidation. Long live the twinkie.
Why is it all these high paid union workers buy all this foreign crap instead of the higher priced "Made In America" products? Look at all the union workers shopping at wal-mart. Shouldn't they all be supporting American Made?
Shouldn't WE all be supporting American Made?
Not if its overpriced crap
Well obviously, unlike you, I think American workers are the best in the world.
Yeah but we should not be supporting Union Imperialism and parasitism neither of those things are the worker's friend.It has not been saved. It is going into private mediation. Did you read the article? The fuckin Union is why they are in this mess in the first place
Which is why I always say that if the neo-cons had their way they would roll back our standard of living to that of Mexico in order to "compete". Why do you think the workers in the United States has to high of a standard of living? Why do you want to see their wages fall?
Simply put....If Hostess or any other company cannot pay a decent wage then they cannot afford to stay in business. By the way...(The CEO gave himself MILLIONS in bonuses).
Get your head out of your ass and learn the truth.
Who Killed Hostess Brands and Twinkies? - Forbes
Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m before bankruptcy
Why is it all these high paid union workers buy all this foreign crap instead of the higher priced "Made In America" products? Look at all the union workers shopping at wal-mart. Shouldn't they all be supporting American Made?
Shouldn't WE all be supporting American Made?
They need a twink to help restructureA judge has ordered Hostess and the union to get back to the table and try again to work out a deal to avoid liquidation. Long live the twinkie.