The tunnels were are are not a threat

Tunnels leading into Israel to kill people is defence? HAHAHA

This is a new low, even for you beezle!

What's really ironic is that you post propaganda like this, and then you have the nerve to accuse others of posting 'Israeli propaganda'
 
Tunnels leading into Israel to kill people is defence? HAHAHA

This is a new low, even for you beezle!

What's really ironic is that you post propaganda like this, and then you have the nerve to accuse others of posting 'Israeli propaganda'

It gets better - The ironic part is they complain Israel is cruel inhuman monsters..
so I wonder..why going to the Israeli direction? a toast to stupidity! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Its very interesting here how those pretending to 'refute' the point that the tunnels are defensive, just as trenches were in WWII only want to headline their opinion, not to actually address the points raised in the piece.

Its almost like they want to shout down anyone nay-saying the Israeli position, rather than let more neutral people make up their own minds.

How could that be ... ? ;)

Well, no issues. If you are interested in reality go watch. If not, hey go with the Zionist position.
The more deluded they are the more mistakes they will make. So its good to see. :)
 
I watched. I'm underwhelmed.

A sniper nest on a hospital rooftop is not passive either.
 
Its very interesting here how those pretending to 'refute' the point that the tunnels are defensive, just as trenches were in WWII only want to headline their opinion, not to actually address the points raised in the piece.

Its almost like they want to shout down anyone nay-saying the Israeli position, rather than let more neutral people make up their own minds.

How could that be ... ? ;)

Well, no issues. If you are interested in reality go watch. If not, hey go with the Zionist position.
The more deluded they are the more mistakes they will make. So its good to see. :)
If the tunnels are defensive, then why do they end underneath Israeli territory?

If the tunnels are defensive, then why were they not full of Palestinian civilians, during the bombings, thereby reducing the civilian casualty rate?

If the tunnels are defensive, then why did the IDF not find large-scale evidence of civilian occupation, in the hours before the IDF penetrated into those tunnels?

:bsflag:

Some of the lame-est and sorriest we've seen out of the increasingly hard-pressed Hamas side of the aisle during the course of this campaign.

But, you've gotta admit, it's funny stuff.

Downright hilarious.

Baghdad Bob is alive and well and doing consulting work in Gaza City...
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Its very interesting here how those pretending to 'refute' the point that the tunnels are defensive, just as trenches were in WWII only want to headline their opinion, not to actually address the points raised in the piece.

Its almost like they want to shout down anyone nay-saying the Israeli position, rather than let more neutral people make up their own minds.

How could that be ... ? ;)

Well, no issues. If you are interested in reality go watch. If not, hey go with the Zionist position.
The more deluded they are the more mistakes they will make. So its good to see. :)

Naaah - what's 'interesting' is how one poster purporting to be interested in 'reality' has indulged himself above in the fantasy that he can determine what is 'reality' any better than anyone else.

I don't see any evidence presented to support the idea Beez has that it's any better at recognizing 'reality' than the rest of the posters. And I fail to see where the snide l'il insinuations achieve anything of use or value.
 
Err. Watch the vid. I sure as damn don't plan to transpose it all here.

Why you insist on being such a tool for Jew haters and not think with your head?

How is digging a tunnle under the pink room of a 5 year old Israeli girl supposed to "defend"?

Did they plan on participating in toddlers' tea parties?

Give me a break, will you?? are you THAT desparate???
 
"Waa waa waa".

You Zionists ain't half whiners. A tunnel is defensive, as is a bunker, as is a trench.
You can try to shout this down as much as you like, but it is so.

Yes you can shoot from a bunker, a trench or a tunnel, but that requires your enemy to present himself for the shooting of. Stay out of Gaza.

As to the tunnels into Israel, well, seems like a good military tactic to try to out flank an opponent. Makes you wonder why no one ever thought of it before, eh?

Now if Egypt can find and close down the bits that reach into Egypt, then Israel can find and close down the bits that reach into Israel. No harm. No foul. No 1800 people dead (plus attacking aggressors of course).

Suck it up guys. :)
 
"Waa waa waa".

You Zionists ain't half whiners. A tunnel is defensive, as is a bunker, as is a trench.
You can try to shout this down as much as you like, but it is so.

Yes you can shoot from a bunker, a trench or a tunnel, but that requires your enemy to present himself for the shooting of. Stay out of Gaza.

As to the tunnels into Israel, well, seems like a good military tactic to try to out flank an opponent. Makes you wonder why no one ever thought of it before, eh?

Now if Egypt can find and close down the bits that reach into Egypt, then Israel can find and close down the bits that reach into Israel. No harm. No foul. No 1800 people dead (plus attacking aggressors of course).

Suck it up guys. :)
If Israel tunneled into Gaza would that be fair? Or another war crime?
 
I know I often dig tunnels to the enemy so I can feel safer......
 
Its anyway none of Israel's business what Gazans do with their land and sea. In Gaza, above Gaza, off the coast of Gaza or under Gaza.

If they don't want the tunnels in Israel, close them like the Egyptians did in Egypt.
But they have no right to kill thousands of Gazans to destroy passive infrastructure.

And the ability to do it isn't a right.
Just as might is not right.

I will now respond to the point.

My first point being, that the speaker is totally biased and propagandonist for Hamas and terror organization, and the only reason why I kept listening to his nonsense is just so I have more coherent response. Which is again, just pure nonsense.

Secondly, he says that the idea behind the "offensive ground invasion" was not dealing the the tunnles leading to Israel, but the tunnles in Gaza, created by Hamas. Now is this guy serious? this is one and the same thing, of course those exists of tunnles in Israel are first located in Gaza, they're on and the same.

He keeps saying that Egypt sealed the tunnles, therefor there's no way any weaponry could enter the strip. First nonsense, Egypt daily discovers new tunnles. Secondly, most of Hamas' rockets are nodays created in the strip itself, only few amount come from Iran. So again, you don't need to "smuggle" weapon, it's basically home-made.

Third, he claims that in order to deal with the tunnles, it was not needed to bomb everything, so called. The attacks on Mosques were on those who held rockets and weapons, it wasn't to find tunnles. All air attackes were to deal with the rocket threat, the same one this ignorant denies.

In short, this is total bullshit
 
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Yes.

Please speak with Bibi and tell him to stop trying to evade ICC jurisdiction and investigation.

Israel did nothing illegal and Israel has proof that it was all done according to International Law.

Bring on whatever you have, Hamas apologists. But don't whine once Israel slaps back
 
Its very interesting here how those pretending to 'refute' the point that the tunnels are defensive, just as trenches were in WWII only want to headline their opinion, not to actually address the points raised in the piece.

Its almost like they want to shout down anyone nay-saying the Israeli position, rather than let more neutral people make up their own minds.

How could that be ... ? ;)

Well, no issues. If you are interested in reality go watch. If not, hey go with the Zionist position.
The more deluded they are the more mistakes they will make. So its good to see. :)

Still waiting for you to tell me how the tunnles are defensive, because this video is nothing but hugwash.
 
The speaker is Norman Finkelstein.

A Jew of the diapora and of good conscience.
That he (and many others) do not see Israel's right to trample over ever other people and every level of morality is very much to his credit (and to that of many others).

You can hate him all you like. I note you seem reluctant to even say his name.
But he is a NORMAL PERSON. And informed through his knowledge of tragedy, of how badly Jews were treated in WWII, so DOES NOT WISH JEWS TO REPEAT THE HARM ON ANOTHER PEOPLE.

Israelis are being increasingly traumatised by their state and their warmongering, and have ceased to be normal.
That is why you don't get why the rest of the world (US & Marshall Islands excepted) thinks you are fascist.
 
Yes.

Please speak with Bibi and tell him to stop trying to evade ICC jurisdiction and investigation.

Israel did nothing illegal and Israel has proof that it was all done according to International Law.

Bring on whatever you have, Hamas apologists. But don't whine once Israel slaps back

'SLAPS BACK'?

You speak of some collective punishment to be visited on Palestinians for opening legal proceedings?

Wow!
 
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Yes.

Please speak with Bibi and tell him to stop trying to evade ICC jurisdiction and investigation.

Israel did nothing illegal and Israel has proof that it was all done according to International Law.

Bring on whatever you have, Hamas apologists. But don't whine once Israel slaps back

'SLAPS BACK'?

You speak of some collective punishment to be visited on Palestinians for opening legal proceedings?

Wow!

No, idiot. I'm speaking of a situation where Israel can blame both the Palestinian government and its sympathizers of the same war crimes being dressed upon it.

Duh.
 
The speaker is Norman Finkelstein.

A Jew of the diapora and of good conscience.
That he (and many others) do not see Israel's right to trample over ever other people and every level of morality is very much to his credit (and to that of many others).

You can hate him all you like. I note you seem reluctant to even say his name.
But he is a NORMAL PERSON. And informed through his knowledge of tragedy, of how badly Jews were treated in WWII, so DOES NOT WISH JEWS TO REPEAT THE HARM ON ANOTHER PEOPLE.

Israelis are being increasingly traumatised by their state and their warmongering, and have ceased to be normal.
That is why you don't get why the rest of the world (US & Marshall Islands excepted) thinks you are fascist.

Most of those liberal morons who are Hamas sympathizers are Jews themselves. Truly a sad story. I know that from my family.

I don't hate the guy, I don't know the guy to hate him, and I'm not interested. Didn't say anything bad about him, but did say his "explanations" are totally out there and not even slightly accurate.

Israelis cannot be normal, because Israelis are surrounded by Islamo-Dictators who wish to harm them and destroy them.

The rest of the world uses it's high moral code only where there is oil or money. The rest of the world is handles by hypocrites and greedy people.
 
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