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Bush Stalls on Darfur Genocide

Nine months after the Bush administration first declared that ongoing violence in Darfur constituted ''genocide,'' 80 prominent national organizations and leadership figures representing millions of Americans urged the President to do more to protect innocent civilians in Sudan's western Darfur region. The Bush administration, which over the past year took the lead in approving several Security Council resolutions deploring the violence and authorizing the African Union mission, has appeared much less aggressive in recent months. Since conflict erupted in Sudan in February 2003, Amnesty International estimates that more than 70,000 people are believed to have lost their lives. Over 1.5 million civilians have been internally displaced by the conflict and 200,000 have sought refuge in neighboring Chad. Tens of thousands of women have been displaced, raped and killed since the violence began.
Sources: Common Dreams, "Bush Accused of Complacency, Double-Dealing on Darfur, Jim Lobe, May 25, 2005; Amnesty International, "Sudan Human Rights Concerns"; National Organization for Women, "Violence Against Women in Sudan Reveals Common Weapon of War," Lisa Alvy, December 3, 2004

Bush Can't Make Up His Mind on Student Grants
In his 2005 State of the Union address, Bush promised to increase Pell grant funding to help more low-income students in the U.S. afford college, as he had in his 2004 address. In fact, his 2006 FY budget eliminates the Perkins loan program, which provides low-interest loans to low- and middle-income college students, and uses those savings to increase spending on Pell grants and raise the maximum award by a meager $100, to $4,150, over the next five years. The announcement came barely a month after Bush and Congress decided to cut or eliminate Pell grants for about 1.4 million students, effective next fall, to save $300 million.
Sources: "State of the Union," George W. Bush, Feb. 2, 2005; "State of the Union," George W. Bush, Jan. 20, 2004; Knight Ridder, "Pell Grant Cuts Put Burden on Low-Income Students to Pay College Tuition," David Nivens, Jan. 17, 2005; "Bush Budget Drops Loans," Daily Northwestern, Feb. 8, 2005.

Bush Backtracks on Proposal to Stop Global Spread of HIV/AIDS
In his 2003 State of the Union address, Bush called for Congress to give $15 billion over five years to stop the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa and the Caribbean. Only $2.9 billion in funding for HIV/AIDS and other disease programs was actually approved that year, and in the 2004 budget, funding was further cut by hundreds of millions of dollars. In the 2005 State of the Union address, Bush made no mention of his expansive 2003 proposal; instead he called on the government only to reauthorize the Ryan White Act, a federal law that helps pay the health care bills of people living with HIV or AIDS in the United States.
Sources: "State of the Union," George W. Bush, Jan. 28, 2003; "State of the Union," George W. Bush, Feb. 3, 2005; Kaisernetwork.org, "Daily HIV/AIDS Report," Nov. 19, 2004; American Progress, "A Path Littered With Broken Promises," Christy Harvey, Judd Legum, and Jonathan Baskin, Feb. 2, 2005.

Bush Flip-Flops on Civil Unions
In an Oct. 24 interview with ABC correspondent Charlie Gibson, Bush claimed he disagreed with the Republican Party platform opposing civil unions of same-sex couples and that the issues should be left up to the states. "I don't think we should deny people rights to a civil union, a legal arrangement, if that's what a state chooses to do so," Bush told Gibson during the interview. Gibson then noted that the Republican Party platform opposed civil unions, to which Bush replied, "Well, I don't." Gibson then asked, "So the Republican Party platform on that point, as far as you’re concerned, is wrong?" "Right," Bush said. However, Bush opposes same-sex marriage, continues to support a constitutional amendment to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and despite these latest remarks, White House officials have said that Bush would not have endorsed civil unions as the governor of Texas. In Oct. 2003, Bush issued a proclamation endorsing Marriage Protection Week, a week of anti-gay family events sponsored by more than two dozen right-wing religious organizations, which called on elected officials to sign a pledge not only opposing marriage equality for same-sex couples, but also opposing civil unions and domestic partner benefits.
Sources: New York Times, "Bush Says His Party Is Wrong to Oppose Gay Civil Unions," Elisabeth Bumiller, Oct. 26, 2004; National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, "Bush and today's civil unions statements," Oct. 26, 2004

Who Wears the Flip-Flops Now?
Joel Connelly, of the Seattle Post–Intelligencer, demonstrates how Bush, who has charged John Kerry relentlessly with flip-flopping, has flip-flopped himself on a number of issues throughout the past four years. Some of Bush’s flip-flops include: speaking against the Clinton administration’s use of U.S. troops for nation-building, then using the same concept in Iraq; declaring Osama bin Laden as the real enemy and later claiming he is not a priority; originally opposing the creation of a 9/11 Commission, then later supporting this idea; declaring the administration would support (at least sign) the renewal of Congress’s ban on military-style assault weapons with no follow-through; and promising to limit carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere, but ultimately doing nothing to help this problem. Connelly presents the voter with a more "educated" depiction of what it means to flip-flop. As it turns out, Bush is not one to talk. A web site dedicated to keeping track of Bush’s flip flops continues to add more charges to its collection. Check out 50BushFlipFlops.com for a complete list.
Sources: In These Times, "Bush-Cheney Flip Flops Cost America in Blood," Joel Connelly, Sept. 29, 2004; 50BushFlipFlops.com, "Long Flip Flop List."

Bush Administration Pressures Agencies to Skew Facts: The Bush administration's attempts to "enshrine religious beliefs in government agencies" have led to the release of altered or misleading reports on important health issues. Despite the absence of scientific evidence proving that abstinence-only programs are effective in reducing teen sexual activity, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) removed a link from its website to a list of sex education programs that combined abstinence education with information on contraception. The CDC and the U.S. Agency for International Development hid scientific evidence proving that condoms were an effective means of preventing HIV/AIDS. The National Cancer Institute misrepresented the scientific evidence that having an abortion does not make a woman more likely to contract breast cancer. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration refused to allow the over-the-counter sale of emergency contraception, overruling the recommendations of the FDA staff and two advisory panels. In addition to these examples, the Environmental Protection Agency has reportedly been pressured to issue misleading reports to protect Bush's allies in big agriculture and the mining and oil industries.
Source: Philadelphia Daily News, "Bush sells out people's health to religious zealots, corporate contributors," Carol Towarnicky, Sept. 23, 2004


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Tracking Bush's Flip-Flops (Sept. 21, 2004): The "John Kerry flip-flops on the issues" attacks have been relentless these past few weeks, but has anyone really checked Bush's record? For the most part, the media has ignored Bush's obvious flip-flops, but on August 30, Bush's statement that the war on terror could not be won caught national attention. The next day, Bush was back to his firm resolution that "we will win" the war on terror. Fortunately, people are beginning to notice this disturbing trend. The Center for American Progress recently issued a series of Bush's embarrassing flip-flops on important issues:

Social Security Surplus
Bush Pledges Not to Touch Social Security Surplus: "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus." [Bush, 3/3/01]

Bush Spends Social Security Surplus: The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes." [The New York Times, 2/6/02]

Abortion
Bush Supports a Woman's Right to Choose: "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question." [The Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal]

Bush Opposes a Woman's Right to Choose: "I am pro-life." [Governor Bush, 10/3/00]


Weapons of Mass Destruction
Bush Says We Found the Weapons of Mass Destruction: "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]

Bush Says We Haven't Found Weapons of Mass Destruction: "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [Bush, "Meet the Press," 2/7/04]

Osama bin Laden
Bush Wants Osama Dead or Alive: "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 9/17/01]

Bush Doesn't Care About Osama: "I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him." [Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]

Same-Sex Marriage
Bush Says Same-Sex Marriage Is a State Issue: "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on gay marriage, "Larry King Live," 2/15/00]

Bush Supports Constitutional Amendment Banning Gay Marriage: "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [Bush, 2/24/04]
 
Bush isn't running for anything else, ya know. Get into the NOW, cretin.
 
just because its old doesnt mean its irrelevant. hell you guys are still blaming clinton for stuff. How is this any different ? But of course you will choose to ignore it.
 
Mally said:
just because its old doesnt mean its irrelevant. hell you guys are still blaming clinton for stuff. How is this any different ? But of course you will choose to ignore it.

Yes. It is irrelevant. What policy do you espouse for fighting global terrorism, or creating jobs? You're like a two year old. Say something meaningful.
 
Is there anything listed in the original post of this thread that has not been discussed and even beat to death on this board already?

The trouble with new trolls (besides posting old stuff) is that they are sooooo last year!
 
hey Rtwing, are you going to try and defend any of it or ignore it cause its older news huh ? Typical , bury your head in the sand when someone blasts you with stone cold facts about your boy. Just shows that you have absolutely nothing. At least Kathy or Diloduck can defend themselves by giving counter arguments. You on the other hand..well.. Why dont you try and defend some of things I just posted instead of just spewing insults for a change ? Or does that require to much research or brain stimulation ?
 
CSM -- you guys are still discussing stuff clinton did in his tenure, what in the world makes this any different ?
 
Mally said:
hey Rtwing, are you going to try and defend any of it or ignore it cause its older news huh ? Typical , bury your head in the sand when someone blasts you with stone cold facts about your boy. Just shows that you have absolutely nothing. At least Kathy or Diloduck can defend themselves by giving counter arguments. You on the other hand..well.. Why dont you try and defend some of things I just posted instead of just spewing insults for a change ? Or does that require to much research or brain stimulation ?

Why don't you attempt to figure out the search feature so we can go on with more current news and arguments while you catch up?
 
Mally said:
hey Rtwing, are you going to try and defend any of it or ignore it cause its older news huh ? Typical , bury your head in the sand when someone blasts you with stone cold facts about your boy. Just shows that you have absolutely nothing. At least Kathy or Diloduck can defend themselves by giving counter arguments. You on the other hand..well.. Why dont you try and defend some of things I just posted instead of just spewing insults for a change ? Or does that require to much research or brain stimulation ?

Why don't you lick my veiny man-tube.
 
why, oh wait, because you have debunked every single one of the issues that make George look bad. I forgot. Or is it because you dont want to have to look at the lies he has perpetuated throughout his tenure ay ?
 
Mally said:
CSM -- you guys are still discussing stuff clinton did in his tenure, what in the world makes this any different ?

Not a thing.... would you like to discuss things Clinton has done and the impact current world events? Can you do that intelligently? Care to discuss the current administration without resorting to the "he's a moron" tact in your discussion? Can you reasonably argue your case with some logical thought processes without resorting to parroting the same old stuff spouted ad nauseam (all of which has been disproven on this board time and again).

Believe it or not, there are quite a few on this board who do not approve of President Bush and who can do all of the above quite well...they are members in good standing on this board and many are long time posters....the rest made the same initial mistakes you are making and eventually got banned.

Discussion here can be very lively without resorting to name calling and personal attacks if you choose to take that approach....
 
Mally said:
why, oh wait, because you have debunked every single one of the issues that make George look bad. I forgot. Or is it because you dont want to have to look at the lies he has perpetuated throughout his tenure ay ?

Think about the nation. He has done well for the nation with his policy decisions. Your obsession is boring.
 
Mally said:
why, oh wait, because you have debunked every single one of the issues that make George look bad. I forgot. Or is it because you dont want to have to look at the lies he has perpetuated throughout his tenure ay ?

Because each of these issues has been discussed ad infinitum in the past. Instead of repeating ourselves we would prefer to work within the framework of the now rather than the past. It gets tired each time a new troll comes on that will not research the past of the board and assumes however illegitimately that they are bringing forward bright new bait when they are really old rusty lures.

In other words, use the search feature, find out what was stated before. This is like a new student from another school that is behind in their studies introduced to a new class that begins asking questions in class that have already been asked and answered.
 
so are your replies...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
Im sorry, but most people dont have time to do 20 minutes of fucking research to post something. For christ sake people get overyourselves..and if you do then you obviously need to get a life, or a job.
 
Mally said:
Im sorry, but most people dont have time to do 20 minutes of fucking research to post something. For christ sake people get overyourselves..and if you do then you obviously need to get a life, or a job.

Let's see...you joined the USMB.....YESTERDAY.

And now you are dictating to us how to do things? If you don't have 20 minutes to research and post something, maybe you don't need to be on a message board.

Maybe if you took just 10 minutes to find what you want to post, then another 2 to do a search to see if it has been discussed before, you wouldn't be getting bashed so much.

Come on now..play well with others.
 
GotZoom said:
Let's see...you joined the USMB.....YESTERDAY.

And now you are dictating to us how to do things? If you don't have 20 minutes to research and post something, maybe you don't need to be on a message board.

Maybe if you took just 10 minutes to find what you want to post, then another 2 to do a search to see if it has been discussed before, you wouldn't be getting bashed so much.

Come on now..play well with others.


Amen---Cmon Mally---you know what's going on here and how to participate without just flaming everyone. Don't play stupid.
either follow procedure like everyone else does
leave
do something to get banned since that seems to be your primary goal

You're not stupid enough to get on a this board and expect that comments like yours' will be met with love and joy.
 
Mally said:
Im sorry, but most people dont have time to do 20 minutes of fucking research to post something. For christ sake people get overyourselves..and if you do then you obviously need to get a life, or a job.


Read a bit and catch up. I would be one that will welcome you to the discussion, I like having differing opinion on the board. I just don't want to go over the same tired stuff or have a discussion about Malaprop Man when there are far more interesting topics to spend time on.

Either that or hang around a bit, find out where we are at now discuss new things instead of the same old stuff every new troll comes on the board with.
 
Mally said:
Im sorry, but most people dont have time to do 20 minutes of fucking research to post something. For christ sake people get overyourselves..and if you do then you obviously need to get a life, or a job.
Ah... so then you are willing to accept rebutting statements to your posts (those without substantiating research) as valid replies! That is very generous of you (assuming that you are applying your statements about research equally).
 
Mally said:
Im sorry, but most people dont have time to do 20 minutes of fucking research to post something. For christ sake people get overyourselves..and if you do then you obviously need to get a life, or a job.

This is sweet "whaaa, I have no time to research". I beg to differ, considering you've been posting quite regularly for the last 7 FUCKING HOURS.
 

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