The truth about civil rights

As long as I don't have to sit at the back of the bus UNLESS I WANT TO or go through an alley to get to the door of a restaurant IF I WANT TO I don't care which political party endorsed the civil rights for minority Americans in this country. YOU GOT THAT!!
 
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The first civil rights bill was drafted by a republican

Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R) who drafted a very extensive Civil Rights Bill. They didn’t have the votes to pass the bill

Kennedy, being a smart politician, then had the democrats draft a second civil rights bill.

Kennedy was not a supporter of civil rights until the republicans brought it up

but the American people, black and white, were demanding it.
 
Dixiecrats that returned to the democrat party;

Richard Russell, Mendell Rivers, Clinton's mentor William Fulbright, Robert Byrd, Fritz Hollings and Al Gore Sr. remained Democrats
 
As long as I don't have to sit at the back of the bus UNLESS I WANT TO or go through an alley to get to the door of a restaurant IF I WANT TO I don't care which political party endorsed the civil rights for minority Americans in this country. YOU GOT THAT!!

Obviously you are a democrat who doesn't want to hear the truth

but YOU should care.
 
Most Dixiecrats went back to being democrats

The gain of republican power in the south had little to do with race


Young southerners and northerners who moved south are responsible for the rise in republican popularity because of economics not race

Republican popularity in the South had everything to do with race.

Barry Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil rights act, he was rewarded with the 1964 Republican nomination, and, for example,

he got something like 87% of the vote in Mississippi, a state that had been largely Democrat for decades.
 
Most Dixiecrats went back to being democrats

The gain of republican power in the south had little to do with race


Young southerners and northerners who moved south are responsible for the rise in republican popularity because of economics not race

Republican popularity in the South had everything to do with race.

Barry Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil rights act, he was rewarded with the 1964 Republican nomination, and, for example,

he got something like 87% of the vote in Mississippi, a state that had been largely Democrat for decades.
Something tells me Misty will ignore you carb.
 
And when a Democrat President signed the Civil Rights Bill...Southern Democrats abandoned their party in droves. Nixon and the RNC membership welcomed them with open arms.

Once again explain the logic in why a racist would leave a party that only supported the Civil Rights bill by 60 percent for a party that supported the same bill by 80 percent?

That is easily explained when one notices the location of said members who abandoned the Democrats and how many Republicans there were in the South prior to the Civil Rights bill.

Coupled with the concerted effort by the RNC and Richard Nixon to cultivate such Dixiecrats by the time 1968 rolled around.

But you knew this already....it's just a statistical flim flam attempt by the OP. And a RNC talking point.

Your argument is just a DNC talking point. It doesn't address the logic in RGS statement.
 
Once again explain the logic in why a racist would leave a party that only supported the Civil Rights bill by 60 percent for a party that supported the same bill by 80 percent?

That is easily explained when one notices the location of said members who abandoned the Democrats and how many Republicans there were in the South prior to the Civil Rights bill.

Coupled with the concerted effort by the RNC and Richard Nixon to cultivate such Dixiecrats by the time 1968 rolled around.

But you knew this already....it's just a statistical flim flam attempt by the OP. And a RNC talking point.

Your argument is just a DNC talking point. It doesn't address the logic in RGS statement.

And you were expecting something else?
 
Yes it is....but every once in a while, people like the OP and the Clerk will try to slip in their falsehoods, hoping no one is paying attention.

Sure thing, we are to believe that racist got mad at their party that barely supported civil rights and joined the party that overwhelmingly supported civil rights. You guys crack me up.

The Republicans under Nixon in 1968 overwhelmingly supported Civil Rights? Can you back that up, please?

Go read the votes for the Civil Rights act. 80 percent of Republicans in both houses voted for it.
 
Most Dixiecrats went back to being democrats

The gain of republican power in the south had little to do with race


Young southerners and northerners who moved south are responsible for the rise in republican popularity because of economics not race

Republican popularity in the South had everything to do with race.

Barry Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil rights act, he was rewarded with the 1964 Republican nomination, and, for example,

he got something like 87% of the vote in Mississippi, a state that had been largely Democrat for decades.

And the cotton belt, solid South is the only place Goldwater won other than Arizona.

Polyester won this one.
 
How some spin history for political advantage just amazes me. Soon we will have the entire Wingnut re-write of American History. And it will be taught and believed. I spent considerable time in the South in the late sixties and it was a scary place as America moved a little closer to civil rights for Blacks. Read a bit of the history for a change.

LBJ's daughters were on cspan a while ago discussing their travels through the south. Took real guts for Lady Bird to even do it.


CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Dirksen was that rare American and politician, a person missing in today's No Party.

http://www.congresslink.org/print_basics_histmats_civilrights64_cloturespeech.htm



'The Bill is Introduced'

"It was against this background that the administration's proposal went to Congress. On the Senate side, the bill was introduced in three forms: the entire bill, introduced by Senate majority leader Mike Mansfield, went to the Judiciary Committee for consideration as did the entire bill minus Title II; controversial Title II, co-sponsored by Mansfield and Everett Dirksen, went to the Commerce Committee for special study. Title II barred discrimination in a wide range of public accommodations, regardless of whether or not they were owned privately, and was the object of a good deal of criticism. The strategy here was to isolate the most objectionable part of the bill so as not to jeopardize consideration of the remainder. Eventually, 42 senators joined in co-sponsorship of the omnibus civil rights bill. On the House side, the entire bill was sent as a unit to the House
Judiciary Committee."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6kMgUzNxKM]YouTube - The Civil Rights Movement In Photos[/ame]
 
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"The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes."

CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Since 1933? How intentionally dishonest. :lol:
 
"The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes."

CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Since 1933? How intentionally dishonest. :lol:
Notice how no one has answered this question I asked earlier:

Here's a trivia question for ya:

In the last 80 years, how many Black republicans have been elected to Congress & Senate?

Just take a guess.

Another question, same timeframe...how many Black Democrats have been elected to Congress & Senate?

Anyone wanna take a stab?
 
"The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes."

CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

And when a Democrat President signed the Civil Rights Bill...Southern Democrats abandoned their party in droves. Nixon and the RNC membership welcomed them with open arms.

Once again explain the logic in why a racist would leave a party that only supported the Civil Rights bill by 60 percent for a party that supported the same bill by 80 percent?

So they could take it over.....which they eventually did.
 
"The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes."

CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

And when a Democrat President signed the Civil Rights Bill...Southern Democrats abandoned their party in droves. Nixon and the RNC membership welcomed them with open arms.

Once again explain the logic in why a racist would leave a party that only supported the Civil Rights bill by 60 percent for a party that supported the same bill by 80 percent?

Logical? You're expecting a logical reason why people did an illogical thing? Look around.
We still have people acting against their best interest.
 
The party's dramatic reversal on civil rights issues culminated when Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law the Civil Rights Act of 1964. On doing so he commented, "We [the Democrats] have lost the South for a generation." Meanwhile, the Republicans, led again by Richard Nixon, were beginning to implement their Southern strategy, which aimed to resist federal encroachment on the states, while appealing to conservative and moderate white Southerners in the rapidly growing cities and suburbs of the South. Southern Democrats took notice of the fact that 1964 Republican Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater had voted against the Civil Rights Act, and in the presidential election of 1964, Goldwater's only electoral victories outside his home state of Arizona were in the states of the Deep South.

The year 1968 was a trying one for the party as well as the United States. In January, even though it was a military defeat for the Viet Cong, the Tet Offensive began to turn American public opinion against the Vietnam War. Senator Eugene McCarthy rallied anti-war forces on college campuses and came within a few percentage points of defeating Johnson in the New Hampshire primary. Four days later Senator Robert Kennedy, brother of the former president, entered the race. Johnson stunned the nation on March 31 when he withdrew from the race; four weeks later his vice-president, Hubert H. Humphrey, entered. Kennedy and McCarthy traded primary victories while Humphrey stayed out the primaries and gathered the support of labor unions and the big-city bosses. Kennedy won the California primary on June 4 and may have been able to wrest the nomination from Humphrey, but he was assassinated in Los Angeles. (Even as Kennedy won California, Humphrey had already amassed 1000 of the 1312 delegate votes needed for the nomination, while Kennedy had about 700.[10]) During the 1968 Democratic National Convention, while police and the National Guard violently confronted anti-war protesters on the streets and parks of Chicago, the Democrats nominated Humphrey. Meanwhile Alabama's Democratic governor George C. Wallace launched a third-party campaign and at one point was running second to the Republican candidate Richard M. Nixon. Nixon barely won, with the Democrats retaining control of Congress.

The degree to which the Southern Democrats had abandoned the party became evident in the 1968 presidential election when the electoral votes of every former Confederate state except Texas went to either Republican Richard Nixon or independent George Wallace, the latter a former Southern Democrat. Defeated Democrat Hubert Humphrey's electoral votes came mainly from the Northern states, marking a dramatic shift from the 1948 election 20 years earlier, when the losing Republican candidate's electoral votes were mainly concentrated in the Northern states.


History of the Democratic Party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Don't let the someone writing an op ed piece convence you that history didn't happen. You can look it up yourself.
 
Unfortunately people from both parties have been playing the race card in politics for a long time.

But, I believe there is only one member of Congress with a known history as a KKK leader. Which party does he belong to? Which party has all of the race baiting extortionists?

FWIW in 1968 Wallace got a LOT of votes in supposedly liberal Northern states, too.
 
The truth about Civil Rights was that it was not a Democrat/Republican issue it was a North/South issue. Since the "Solid South" was mostly Democrat there were more Democrats opposed. Southern Republicans also opposed Civil rights.

The truth also is that once Democratic President LBJ signed the legislation, Souther Democrats became todays Red State Republicans

And thats the truth

Yes it is....but every once in a while, people like the OP and the Clerk will try to slip in their falsehoods, hoping no one is paying attention.

Sure thing, we are to believe that racist got mad at their party that barely supported civil rights and joined the party that overwhelmingly supported civil rights. You guys crack me up.

We live in the south, RGS, and you crack me up to trying to rewrite what happened. The racists left the Democratic Party in the south and moved over to the GOP after 1964. Why you keep trying to fly this nonsense is beyond me.
 
"The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes."

CongressLink: [Congress: The Basics - Lawmaking] Civil Rights: Major Features of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

And when a Democrat President signed the Civil Rights Bill...Southern Democrats abandoned their party in droves. Nixon and the RNC membership welcomed them with open arms.

Once again explain the logic in why a racist would leave a party that only supported the Civil Rights bill by 60 percent for a party that supported the same bill by 80 percent?

Because passing the civil rights bill indicated they had lost control of the democratic party because it was a a democratic POTUS that got the 'bill done'. So they bolted to the GOP in order to take it over and make it the party of racists, and they succeeded. That's probably why you're a republican today.
 
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Unfortunately people from both parties have been playing the race card in politics for a long time.

But, I believe there is only one member of Congress with a known history as a KKK leader. Which party does he belong to? Which party has all of the race baiting extortionists?

FWIW in 1968 Wallace got a LOT of votes in supposedly liberal Northern states, too.

Byrd is still alive, and his good GOP friends Jesse and Strom have died in recent years. They were far more vicious than Byrd at his meanest on race back in the day.
 

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