Ukraine has lost....and is losing more.....

[Zavulon]

For me, you Russians are the same here. You all post the same garbage over and over again for all the time I have been here. The only thing what changes is pictures on users' avatars. So, I call you all 'Yuri', to make things easier. Remembering all of you is too complicated for me, you know. So, for me you will be Yuri.

I am not interested in all these nuclear things, except of obvious 'national' reasons, because I think the odds of them coming is quite low. There are a number of reasons of that, though I don't want to mention them there so not to start other meaningless discussions here. It can't be ruled out completely, that's right, but it is definitely not worth of endless threads about that.

For me, a push of a Russian brigade somewhere near Volchansk is far more important and having a far greater impact on the Russian-Ukraine war that all that nuclear babbling.

There is no any Russian-Ukrainian war. There is a proxy war between Russia and NATO, and, therefore, the nuclear deterrence takes the central part in this game. The only reason why United Europe didn't directly invaded Russia (as it was in 1941, 1914, 1853, 1812, 1788 and many times more) - is Russian nuclear weapons and determiness to use them if necessary. Russia has the opportunity to use nukes, survive nuclear exchange, win the war, and then - prevail in the post-WWIII world order (while the price may be significant). That's why NATO can't be too provocative. And that's exactly why they will be beaten in Ukraine. Russia can send brigades in Ukraine and NATO can't. That's why Russia'a victory is inevitable.

 

[Zavulon]

Severely underfunded? We spend as much each year on our nuclear forces as your entire defense budget. We spend about $10 Million PER WARHEAD on maintenance and modernization...

You see, there is a big difference between amount of money that was taken from the US budget and the actual equipment (and human resources) that was really delivered to nuclear forces. Something like the difference between being expensive and being valuable.

 

[justoffal]

Ukraine maps show Russian gains amid fears US aid too late

It's hoped the $61 billion package passed by Congress will help curb Russian momentum on the battlefield.

www.newsweek.com

When MSM can see it might be time to negotiate.....or just throw your whole country down the shitter

Zelensky is all set....he can run away to another country and live off of his billion dollar bank account quite comfortably.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

You see, there is a big difference between amount of money that was taken from the US budget and the actual equipment (and human resources) that was really delivered to nuclear forces. Something like the difference between being expensive and being valuable.

Yep....biggest budget ripoff in the whole system.

 

[ESay]

There is no any Russian-Ukrainian war. There is a proxy war between Russia and NATO, and, therefore, the nuclear deterrence takes the central part in this game. The only reason why United Europe didn't directly invaded Russia (as it was in 1941, 1914, 1853, 1812, 1788 and many times more) - is Russian nuclear weapons and determiness to use them if necessary. Russia has the opportunity to use nukes, survive nuclear exchange, win the war, and then - prevail in the post-WWIII world order (while the price may be significant). That's why NATO can't be too provocative. And that's exactly why they will be beaten in Ukraine. Russia can send brigades in Ukraine and NATO can't. That's why Russia'a victory is inevitable.

Well, that's right, NATO countries (including the most 'hawkish' ones) don't want to escalate this war. Possibility of nuclear 'exchange' is one of the reasons, but not the only one.

What sort of Russia's 'victory' that will be depends on two main things - how many gains your dogshit army will be able to get in Ukraine in the coming months and what the November's elections bring.

 

[the watcher]

The "war" is a a geopolitical posturing, money laundering/ponzi scheme that has about lost what little credibility it ever had, which was considerable. When they have squeezed all the funny money it can produce out of taxpayers they will move on, leaving more hate and chaos for the "historians" to debate. The American public will have their attention redirected to the new project, faster than you can say We Stand With ___________. How Ukraine Aid Is Being Diverted To Fake Companies - GreatGameIndia

 

[skye]

 

[justoffal]

The "war" is a a geopolitical posturing, money laundering/ponzi scheme that has about lost what little credibility it ever had, which was considerable. When they have squeezed all the funny money it can produce out of taxpayers they will move on, leaving more hate and chaos for the "historians" to debate. The American public will have their attention redirected to the new project, faster than you can say We Stand With ___________. How Ukraine Aid Is Being Diverted To Fake Companies - GreatGameIndia

And the fake companies are owned by Guess who? A very own dear elected officials of both stripes for sucking the taxpayers money right out of their legitimate legislation packages.

 

[Litwin]

And the fake companies are owned by Guess who? A very own dear elected officials of both stripes for sucking the taxpayers money right out of their legitimate legislation packages.

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I hate Mongol - Muscovite horde more and more with every day that passes , whats about you ? Muscovite soldier, Alexander Naumov with his wife, began adopting kids from orphanages, murdering them, hiding the bodies in the garage to then continue collecting payments from the government. Both...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Litwin]

The "war" is a a geopolitical posturing, money laundering/ponzi scheme that has about lost what little credibility it ever had, which was considerable. When they have squeezed all the funny money it can produce out of taxpayers they will move on, leaving more hate and chaos for the "historians" to debate. The American public will have their attention redirected to the new project, faster than you can say We Stand With ___________. How Ukraine Aid Is Being Diverted To Fake Companies - GreatGameIndia

 

[Litwin]

You see, there is a big difference between amount of money that was taken from the US budget and the actual equipment (and human resources) that was really delivered to nuclear forces. Something like the difference between being expensive and being valuable.

any uppdates ?

 

[JWBooth]

As long as Washington delivers cash, military assistance, and equipment to Ukraine, Kiev will fight its unwinnable war, and Washington’s ruling political class will profit from the transfer of cash to the Pentagon and the U.S. Defense Industrial Base. ~Macgregor

 

[AntonToo]

There is no any Russian-Ukrainian war.

Russian Army is in Ukraine, killing and getting killed by Ukranian Army. There is no other army in Ukraine...but you say there is no war between Russia and Ukraine.

So this bring up a question: son....who dropped you repeatedly on your head?

 

[Zavulon]

Russian Army is in Ukraine, killing and getting killed by Ukranian Army. There is no other army in Ukraine...but you say there is no war between Russia and Ukraine.

It's more a question of definitions. No war was declared by both sides, and we are killing each other in thousands, not in millions. So, it's a relatively low level of violence and, therefore, it's merely a "special operation", while it's pretty close to the "local war" level.

 

[AntonToo]

It's more a question of definitions.

No it isn't.

Anyone not dropped on their head knows that Russian army has invaded and is waging war in Ukraine, against Ukranian army.

It's an open, active, high casualty conventional war with tanks, missiles, artillery, mines and everything. How the hell could that NOT be a war?

There is no ambiguity here, there is only Putin's regime propaganda putting lipstick on that pig.

 

[Zavulon]

No it isn't. Anyone not dropped on their head knows that Russian army has invaded and is waging war in Ukraine, against Ukranian army.

Personal insults? You are angry, therefore you are wrong. And anyone who actually studied the history of the conflict knows, that it was illegitime Kievan regime, who invaded Donetsk and Lugansk People Republics.

 

[AntonToo]

Personal insults? You are angry, therefore you are wrong. And anyone who actually studied the history of the conflict knows, that it was illegitime Kievan regime, who invaded Donetsk and Lugansk People Republics.

It's a fact- if you don't think there is a war in Ukraine after about half a million Ukranians and Russians get killed there by missles, bullets, tanks and explosions then you are either ignorant of wtf is going on or straight stupid.

There is not really anything in between.

 

[Zavulon]

It's a fact- if you don't think there is a war in Ukraine then you are either ignorant of wt fis going on or staight stupid.

There is not really anything in between.

If you do think that that "pillow fight" in Ukraine can be called "war" - you must read definition of "war" one more time.

 

[AntonToo]

If you do think that that "pillow fight" in Ukraine can be called "war" - you must read definition of "war" one more time.

What the hell wrong with you?

Fighting with pillows doesn't level cities, get half a million people dead and force tens of millions to leave their homes.

Go get your head checked and stop watching Russian propaganda, you sound absolutely insane.

 

[Zavulon]

What the hell wrong with you?

Fighting with pillows doesn't level cities, get half a million people dead and force tens of millions to leave their homes.

It's all relative, you know. 0,5 million killed is lesser evil than 100 million killed (while we are ready to kill even 2 billion if necessary). We don't level cities, only towns as so far. And no, we do it only because illegitimate Kievan Junta asking for it. They tried to join NATO and genocide Russian people. So, we just trying to prevent large-scale war, in which billions will die.

Go get your head checked and stop watching Russian propaganda, you sound absolutely insane.

Actually, your stupid attempt to defeat Russia is insane and suicidal.