The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail

[struth]

That's nice.

The Palestinians didn't have a say, though.

Of course they did, they rejected the plan and started a war…they lost

 

[Mac-7]

This does not mean transplanting a bunch of Europeans because they couldn't get along with their fellow Europeans.

Mostly Euros

But actually, Jews from all over the world

That's nice.

The Palestinians didn't have a say, though.

they did have a say

They were offered a country of their own but declined

 

[Mac-7]

So?

It doesn't make them any less of a legitmate nationality seeking statehood.

See post 102

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The Zionists just murdered upwards of 60,000 Palestinians. They've created a whole new generation of terrorists.

TRANSLATION: "As long as there is a living breathing jew somewhere in the world there will be terrorists to 'deal with it' "

 

[JoeB131]

Mostly Euros

But actually, Jews from all over the world

Okay, let's look at that.

45% of them are Ashnekazim Jews from Central Europe.

Most of the rest are Sephardic Jews from North Africa who fled from Spain After the Spanish Inquisition. So again- Europeans.

The Mizrahi Jews, the only ones native to the ME, are a very small slice of the population. (And they usually get lumped in with the Sephardic Jews.)

But here's the more telling part. Not who is in the population, but who is in charge

You look at every leader of Israel from Ben Gurion to Netanyahu, and you'll find someone who was born in Europe or his parents or grandparents were.

hey did have a say

They were offered a country of their own but declined

I'm going to let you keep half your stuff and give the other half to a deserving black family

I don't think you'd be keen on that arrangement

 

[beagle9]

What’s also hard to understand is that leftists side with that culture.

They'll side with anything if they think it'll make Christian's or secularism that has Christian values that it honors to suffer.

 

[Meister]

Hamas is Palestine. Deal with it.

Hamas is killing the Palestinians in the streets since the ceasefire.
I will take a eradication of the terrorist organization to end the
bloodshed.

 

[JoeB131]

Hamas is killing the Palestinians in the streets since the ceasefire.
I will take a eradication of the terrorist organization to end the
bloodshed.

The Zionists tried that for decades... Seems like they've only made it stronger.

If the ZIonists were truly interested in defeating Hamas, they need to engage the more moderate Fatah. But that would mean negotiating on Palestinian Statehood in good faith.

 

[TimFitz]

Hamas is killing the Palestinians in the streets since the ceasefire.
I will take a eradication of the terrorist organization to end the
bloodshed.

What you Zionists don’t want to acknowledge is that your genocide and war crimes are the roots on which the next Hamas will grow from.

 

[TimFitz]

JoeB131

Ben-Gurion may have dreamed of a new state of Israel free of all the arabs

Thats human nature

Just as libs dream of an America without white people

Or at least one with no white conservstives

But being a practical man the Israeli leader was willing to settle for the partition that the UN mandated

It was a peaceful solution that the crazy arabs rejected

“Libs” don’t dream of “an America without white people”

That your bigotry talking again.

 

[TimFitz]

Don’t pretend you care about Palestinians. You’ve already been exposed cheering their murder by Hamas

Running away from the question by making a baseless accusation.

 

[struth]

Running away from the question by making a baseless accusation.

Not baseless at all, I’ve engaged with him in another thread where he supported the executions of Palestinians by Hamas

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/14/middleeast/gaza-public-execution-gaza-city-hamas-intl

 

[Meister]

What you Zionists don’t want to acknowledge is that your genocide and war crimes are the roots on which the next Hamas will grow from.

How many innocent people were murdered by hamas on Oct 7, 2023?
Israel wants hamas out of Gaza.

You certainly sound like a sympathizer of hamas. Anti-Semitic also?

 

[JoeB131]

How many innocent people were murdered by hamas on Oct 7, 2023?
Israel wants hamas out of Gaza.

You certainly sound like a sympathizer of hamas. Anti-Semitic also?

People in Hell Want Ice Water.

Hamas represents the will of the Palestinian people, who support them while Fatah seems more content with pandering for Western Aid.

 

[Meister]

The Zionists tried that for decades... Seems like they've only made it stronger.

If the ZIonists were truly interested in defeating Hamas, they need to engage the more moderate Fatah. But that would mean negotiating on Palestinian Statehood in good faith.

The only thing that the Palestinians understand is 'From the river to the sea", mentality.
Not sure how YOU would negotiate that.

 

[JoeB131]

The only thing that the Palestinians understand is 'From the river to the sea", mentality.
Not sure how YOU would negotiate that.

Well, here's the thing. I wouldn't try to live next to people who wanted to murder me to start with.

If I saw my neighbors strapping bombs onto their kids and pointing at my house, I'd call a realtor.

Let's leave aside for the moment whether the Palestinians have a good reason to want to kill the Zionists. The very fact that they do makes Zionism kind of a terrible idea.

 

[georgephillip]

Don’t pretend you care about Palestinians. You’ve already been exposed cheering their murder by Hamas

Palestinians who collaborate with a racist Israeli occupation are not people I support; why do you support Jewish terror on the West Bank and in Gaza?
A Threshold Crossed

 

[georgephillip]

That was never a hard and fast rule

After all, the UN Security Council itself was not chosen by popular vote

But the Partition Plan was voted on by all the UN members

But not a single Jew or Arab was allowed to apply the principle of self-determination in 1949 just as all Gazans are being denied that same right in 2025.
Who gets rich(er) from that.

Trump plans to 'take over' Gaza, expel Palestinians & build real estate his family could profit from - Geopolitical Economy Report

 

[Jarlaxle]

So, genocide and war crimes are your idea of peace.

The only war crime is losing.

 

[Meister]

Well, here's the thing. I wouldn't try to live next to people who wanted to murder me to start with.

If I saw my neighbors strapping bombs onto their kids and pointing at my house, I'd call a realtor.

Let's leave aside for the moment whether the Palestinians have a good reason to want to kill the Zionists. The very fact that they do makes Zionism kind of a terrible idea.

Oh brother
Just keep in mind that nobody in that region wanted the Palestinians.....nobody