The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail

[Lisa558]

Because Israel has been committing ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and genocide in Palestine for 75 years.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution​

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"Intent to Maintain Domination​

"A stated aim of the Israeli government is to ensure that Jewish Israelis maintain domination across Israel and the OPT.

"The Knesset in 2018 passed a law with constitutional status affirming Israel as the 'nation-state of the Jewish people,' declaring that within that territory, the right to self-determination 'is unique to the Jewish people,' and establishing 'Jewish settlement' as a national value.

"To sustain Jewish Israeli control, Israeli authorities have adopted policies aimed at mitigating what they have openly described as a demographic 'threat' that Palestinians pose."

Do you understand how limiting self-determination to Jewish people in a territory with an equal number of non-Jews qualifies as racist, at least?

Do you understand that the “non-Jews” - the Gazans - hav been indoctrinated to want to kill all Jews?

And do you understand why Jews need self-determination when there are so many raging antisemites like you?

I had your antisemitic ass on ignore for a long time, and I need to put you back there. There’s no point in my debating with an Islamic immigrant in England.

 

[eagle1462010]

Palestinians who collaborate with a racist Israeli occupation are not people I support; why do you support Jewish terror on the West Bank and in Gaza?
A Threshold Crossed

I support turning the damn place into a parking lot.

Gaza will never be peaceful to Israel.

Force deport them into Syria

 

[eagle1462010]

Do you understand that the “non-Jews” - the Gazans - hav been indoctrinated to want to kill all Jews?

And do you understand why Jews need self-determination when there are so many raging antisemites like you?

I had your antisemitic ass on ignore for a long time, and I need to put you back there. There’s no point in my debating with an Islamic immigrant in England.

Hes probably posting from the middle east.

His camel double parked outside.

 

[Lisa558]

I support turning the damn place into a parking lot.

Gaza will never be peaceful to Israel.

Force deport them into Syria

Why a parking lot? Why not a beautiful seaside resort, complete with luxury hotels, kosher restaurants, and synagogues?

 

[Lisa558]

Hes probably posting from the middle east.

His camel double parked outside.

Quite true.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why a parking lot? Why not a beautiful seaside resort, complete with luxury hotels, kosher restaurants, and synagogues?

Baby steps Lisa

 

[Delldude]

The Zionists just murdered upwards of 60,000 Palestinians.

Half them were military.

Also reported by the Hamas health ministry for stooges like you.

 

[georgephillip]

Do you understand that the “non-Jews” - the Gazans - hav been indoctrinated to want to kill all Jews?

I also understand how racist Israeli Jews indoctrinate their children in the same way which is why racist Jews celebrate dead Gazan children; aren't you proud?

 

[Lisa558]

I also understand how racist Israeli Jews indoctrinate their children in the same way which is why racist Jews celebrate dead Gazan children; aren't you proud?

Wrong. They don’t play “Kill the Muslim” in nursery school, the way the Gazans teach their kids to play “Kill the Jew.”

Aren’t you proud of your fellow racist Muslims?

 

[westwall]

Because Israel has been committing ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and genocide in Palestine for 75 years.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution​

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"Intent to Maintain Domination​

"A stated aim of the Israeli government is to ensure that Jewish Israelis maintain domination across Israel and the OPT.

"The Knesset in 2018 passed a law with constitutional status affirming Israel as the 'nation-state of the Jewish people,' declaring that within that territory, the right to self-determination 'is unique to the Jewish people,' and establishing 'Jewish settlement' as a national value.

"To sustain Jewish Israeli control, Israeli authorities have adopted policies aimed at mitigating what they have openly described as a demographic 'threat' that Palestinians pose."

Do you understand how limiting self-determination to Jewish people in a territory with an equal number of non-Jews qualifies as racist, at least?

Bullshit. Your speciality

 

[georgephillip]

And do you understand why Jews need self-determination when there are so many raging antisemites like you?

I don't believe you know what self-determination is.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Political self-determination is the right of a people to choose their political destiny and freely determine their form of government without external coercion.

"This principle is a cornerstone of modern international law, enshrined in the United Nations Charter and other human rights covenants."

Israeli Jews are denying self-determination to all non-Jews on the West Bank and Gaza; there is no one denying Jews their own freedom to determine their form of government without external coercion.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't believe you know what self-determination is.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Political self-determination is the right of a people to choose their political destiny and freely determine their form of government without external coercion.

"This principle is a cornerstone of modern international law, enshrined in the United Nations Charter and other human rights covenants."

Israeli Jews are denying self-determination to all non-Jews on the West Bank and Gaza; there is no one denying Jews their own freedom to determine their form of government without external coercion.

Yeah….because those non-Jews want Israel obliterated.

 

[georgephillip]

I support turning the damn place into a parking lot.

Gaza will never be peaceful to Israel.

Force deport them into Syria

Who do you think is capable of deporting 2 million Gazans into Syria?

 

[Delldude]

I also understand how racist Israeli Jews indoctrinate their children in the same way which is why racist Jews celebrate dead Gazan children; aren't you proud?

Palestinian children TV shows push kill Jews..... Israel doesn't.

 

[georgephillip]

Wrong. They don’t play “Kill the Muslim” in nursery school, the way the Gazans teach their kids to play “Kill the Jew.”

Aren’t you proud of your fellow racist Muslims?

"It’s not shocking to see Israeli children celebrate the Gaza genocide​

"Israel has long been indoctrinating its children to believe Palestinians are less than human, and thus not worthy of empathy or compassion."

It’s not shocking to see Israeli children celebrate the Gaza genocide

 

[georgephillip]

Bullshit. Your speciality

True or False, Bi*ch?

A Threshold Crossed

"For the past 54 years, Israeli authorities have facilitated the transfer of Jewish Israelis to the OPT and granted them a superior status under the law as compared to Palestinians living in the same territory when it comes to civil rights, access to land, and freedom to move, build, and confer residency rights to close relatives.

"While Palestinians have a limited degree of self-rule in parts of the OPT, Israel retains primary control over borders, airspace, the movement of people and goods, security, and the registry of the entire population, which in turn dictates such matters as legal status and eligibility to receive identity cards."

 

[eagle1462010]

I also understand how racist Israeli Jews indoctrinate their children in the same way which is why racist Jews celebrate dead Gazan children; aren't you proud?

Dont attack other countries then.

Had that been an attack on the U.S. like that there wouldnt be a Gaza.

 

[eagle1462010]

Who do you think is capable of deporting 2 million Gazans into Syria?

An army.

 

[georgephillip]

Yeah….because those non-Jews want Israel obliterated.

Those non-Jews want racist Israeli Jews to end their genocide in Gaza; why do you have a problem with that?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Exactly how much did the population of Gaza grow between 1967 and 2023?

Ethnic cleansing refers to stealing land and murdering or expelling the indigenous population, so the question rational people should be asking is how much land have greedy, Israeli Jews stolen in Palestine since 1948?

"Short answer: there isn’t a single, agreed figure. It depends on what you include (only private, registered plots? communal/tribal lands? East Jerusalem? West Bank 'state land' declarations since 1967?). Here’s the best evidence-based range:

ChatGPT:

• "#1 — Inside Israel (within the 1949 armistice lines): Israeli authorities took control of a very large share of Palestinian-owned land via the 1950 Absentees’ Property Law and related statutes. Human Rights Watch summarizes historians’ findings as at least ~4.5 million dunams (≈4,500 km²) seized from Palestinians, amounting to 65–75% of land Palestinians owned before 1948 (and 40–60% of land owned by those who remained citizens). Human Rights Watch
  Academic and UN records compiled by the UN Conciliation Commission for Palestine (UNCCP) show higher totals if you also count large, sparsely registered Bedouin/tribal lands in the Negev: UN estimates range from ~7 million up to ~16.3 million dunams of 'abandoned Palestinian property.' These are bigger because they include communal holdings and broader categories than just titled, cultivated plots."

Interesting...so how many Jews do you think have been forced to flee from Arab controlled lands since 1948? Or do you not know that far more Jews were displaced from Arab countries than Palestinians were displaced from Israel?

The United Nations put the population of Gaza at a little under 400,000 in 1967. They put the population at over two million now. So either Israel is the worst "ethnic cleansers" in the history of ethic cleansing...or your claim that they ARE trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza is bullshit! I'm going to go with B!