The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail

[georgephillip]

So you are saying that the Israelis are dealing with racist psychopaths/lunatics intent on using an ethnic cleansing of the Jews (and worse?), otherwise who are actually those group's being found in these lands that Israel is having to contend with on a daily bases now it seems ???

Yes you are....

Not exactly.

I'm saying racist, psychotic Jews have been planning the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for decades before their Jewish-supremacist state came into existence in 1948:

Israel as a Racist Endeavour: 11 Examples

 

[Lisa558]

Not exactly.

I'm saying racist, psychotic Jews have been planning the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for decades before their Jewish-supremacist state came into existence in 1948:

Israel as a Racist Endeavour: 11 Examples

The Jews? I thought you leftists speeding propaganda against Israel keep insisting it has nothing to do with Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

Not exactly.

I'm saying racist, psychotic Jews have been planning the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for decades before their Jewish-supremacist state came into existence in 1948:

Israel as a Racist Endeavour: 11 Examples

And P.S. Then why did the Jews offer the Palestinians their own land in a peace deal? And why did they reject it?

You Jew-haters have everything backwards.

 

[beagle9]

I notice that you avoided trying to explain how the population of Gaza grew by leaps and bounds at the time that you claim Israel was conducting ethnic cleansing, Georgie! Let me guess...you actually looked at the numbers and realized how ridiculous that claim was?

Breeding like rabbits regardless of is probably how right ? I mean look at Gaza's population density before the Hamas attack on Israel. Unbelievable... Who does that ? One would think that a light would go off, and certain measures would be adopted in order to curb the growth in the population numbers when they are condensed like sardines in a can to be found in a place like that. The pill would help big time in planning the family, and in the controlling of the numbers if sex is a thing amongst those people that can't be easily controlled, otherwise when it comes to birth rates afterwards. What are they like certain animals in nature who give birth to large litters at a time ? How does a population explode at any given time like that ?

Didn't they have a problem with some group that when they were fleeing to Europe, they ended up engaging in some sort of rape culture that had to be addressed ? Is certain problems concerning self control or the lack there of why they have to conceal their women in burkas because the men just can't control themselves ???

Nothing wrong with that if it's a problem, and the women are ok with it. Hard to understand that culture.

 

[Lisa558]

Breeding like rabbits regardless of is probably how right ? I mean look at Gaza's population density before the Hamas attack on Israel. Unbelievable... Who does that ? One would think that a light would go off, and certain measures would be adopted in order to curb the growth in the population numbers when they are condensed like sardines in a can to be found in a place like that. The pill would help big time in planning the family, and in the controlling of the numbers if sex is a thing amongst those people that can't be easily controlled, otherwise when it comes to birth rates afterwards. What are they like certain animals in nature who give birth to large litters at a time ? How does a population explode at any given time like that ?

Didn't they have a problem with some group that when they were fleeing to Europe, they ended up engaging in some sort of rape culture that had to be addressed ? Is certain problems concerning self control or the lack there of why they have to conceal their women in burkas because the men just can't control themselves ???

Nothing wrong with that if it's a problem, and the women are ok with it. Hard to understand that culture.

What’s also hard to understand is that leftists side with that culture.

 

[JoeB131]

And P.S. Then why did the Jews offer the Palestinians their own land in a peace deal? And why did they reject it?

You Jew-haters have everything backwards.

Did they offer to go back to Europe and leave a nice fruit basket?

Anything less than that is not good enough.

 

[TimFitz]

HAMAS committed genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza, Meathead. They knew exactly what Israel's response would be to a terror attack that slaughtered over a thousand Israelis and they went ahead with it anyways. Then they took hostages so they could hide in their terror tunnels and use them as human shields.

Now that they've got the hostages out? If HAMAS breaks this peace accord Israel will hit them without any restraint. And with what HAMAS is doing to Palestinians now? Don't be surprised if average Palestinians start telling the Israelis where to find the HAMAS cowards they're looking for!

I don’t think none expected *sreali genocide, mass murder,starvation, destruction on a WWII scale.

The response was so flagrantly out of proportion to the one day attack it was supposed to be in response to what happened one one day in October thst Isreal’s status as a rogue nation is secure, as it’s status as a brutal war criminal.

 

[TimFitz]

All peace plans are doomed to fail. If Hamas goes a week without breaking it, I'll be amazed.

The only "plan" that will actually work is treating Gaza like Carthage.

So, genocide and war crimes are your idea of peace.

 

[Mac-7]

JoeB131

Not exactly.

I'm saying racist, psychotic Jews have been planning the ethnic cleansing of Palestine for decades before their Jewish-supremacist state came into existence in 1948:

Israel as a Racist Endeavour: 11 Examples

Ben-Gurion may have dreamed of a new state of Israel free of all the arabs

Thats human nature

Just as libs dream of an America without white people

Or at least one with no white conservstives

But being a practical man the Israeli leader was willing to settle for the partition that the UN mandated

It was a peaceful solution that the crazy arabs rejected

 

[georgephillip]

The Jews? I thought you leftists speeding propaganda against Israel keep insisting it has nothing to do with Jews.

Jews rule Israel, right?

 

[JoeB131]

JoeB131

Ben-Gurion may have dreamed of a new state of Israel free of all the arabs

Thats human nature

Just as libs dream of an America without white people

Or at least one with no white conservstives

But being a practical man the Israeli leader was willing to settle for the partition that the UN mandated

It was a peaceful solution that the crazy arabs rejected

"Hey, I'm just going to take half your stuff. That's "reasonable", right?"

I don't know of any libs who dream of an America without white people, but you do you have your need to feel like your privilege is oppression.

 

[georgephillip]

JoeB131

Ben-Gurion may have dreamed of a new state of Israel free of all the arabs

Thats human nature

Just as libs dream of an America without white people

Or at least one with no white conservstives

But being a practical man the Israeli leader was willing to settle for the partition that the UN mandated

It was a peaceful solution that the crazy arabs rejected

The UN violated its own Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine in 1948.

Racial supremacy may qualify as "human nature" among a small minority of racists like the early Zionists who saw Jewish supremacy as the ultimate goal in Palestine.

"Zionism was never simply about the idea that 'Jewish Lives Matter' — it has always privileged Jewish colonists over indigenous people. Just ask Theodor Herzl."​

https://www.972mag.com/zionism-jewish-lives-herzl/

 

[Mac-7]

"Hey, I'm just going to take half your stuff. That's "reasonable", right?"

I don't know of any libs who dream of an America without white people, but you do you have your need to feel like your privilege is oppression.

The Holy Land never “belonged” to the arabs in a way that you think

For 2,000 years prior to 1949 the territory had been ruled by Rome, Turkey and the UK

Arabs lived there, but never had political control

The Jews had as much claim to a portion of the land as the Pals did

 

[struth]

Why are you indifferent to the tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank that have been murdered, maimed, incarcerated, and displaced by Israeli Jews since 1967?

Maybe you can explain why Israeli Jews are entitled to steal Arab land and murder any victims who complain without being labelled greedy, genocidal racists?

Don’t pretend you care about Palestinians. You’ve already been exposed cheering their murder by Hamas

 

[Mac-7]

The UN violated its own Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine in 1948.

Racial supremacy may qualify as "human nature" among a small minority of racists like the early Zionists who saw Jewish supremacy as the ultimate goal in Palestine.

"Zionism was never simply about the idea that 'Jewish Lives Matter' — it has always privileged Jewish colonists over indigenous people. Just ask Theodor Herzl."​

https://www.972mag.com/zionism-jewish-lives-herzl/

That was never a hard and fast rule

After all, the UN Security Council itself was not chosen by popular vote

But the Partition Plan was voted on by all the UN members

 

[JoeB131]

The Holy Land never “belonged” to the arabs in a way that you think

For 2,000 years prior to 1949 the territory had been ruled by Rome, Turkey and the UK

Arabs lived there, but never had political control

The Jews had as much claim to a portion of the land as the Pals did

You left out the long periods when they were ruled by various Caliphates of - wait for it - Arabs. Namely, the Umayyads, Abbasids, and Fatimids. Not to mention the Crusader States and the Mamluks.

What difference does that make, which empire the land was a part of?

The stated purpose of the World Wars was to dismantle colonial empires and allow for the self-determination of native peoples.

This does not mean transplanting a bunch of Europeans because they couldn't get along with their fellow Europeans.

 

[Mac-7]

You left out the long periods when they were ruled by various Caliphates of - wait for it - Arabs. Namely, the Umayyads, Abbasids, and Fatimids. Not to mention the Crusader States and the Mamluks.

What difference does that make, which empire the land was a part of?

The stated purpose of the World Wars was to dismantle colonial empires and allow for the self-determination of native peoples.

This does not mean transplanting a bunch of Europeans because they couldn't get along with their fellow Europeans.

But the Pals never ruled themselves

 

[JoeB131]

That was never a hard and fast rule

After all, the UN Security Council itself was not chosen by popular vote

But the Partition Plan was voted on by all the UN members

That's nice.

The Palestinians didn't have a say, though.

 

[JoeB131]

But the Pals never ruled themselves

So?

It doesn't make them any less of a legitmate nationality seeking statehood.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Hamas is Palestine. Deal with it.

You don't have to tell Israel twice