The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail

[beagle9]

All peace plans are doomed to fail. If Hamas goes a week without breaking it, I'll be amazed.

The only "plan" that will actually work is treating Gaza like Carthage.

It will fail, because just as the Israeli secret service hunted down Nazis for centuries, it is that Hamas will be no different than they were. They know it, and Israel knows it. Hamas will be totally defeated or nothing will result in peace within the middle east or Gaza.

 

[Mac-7]

Why didn't God prevent the Holocaust?

if Israel was so important to God, why did he let the Assyrians, Babylonians, and then the Romans eliminate it?

Why did God allow the Crusader States to be overrun?

Seems to me God, if he exists, just isn't as into the Holy Land as you guys are.

I dont know

You can 2nd guess the Creator but I wont

Whatever God does is Ok with me

But since you’ve obviously pondered the imponderable more than me how did our universe come to be?

 

[Meathead]

Haha claims^ to stand up for minorities and tolerance. Doesn’t really ever say anything about the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians mostly women and children horrifically killed or injured.

Shtit, when did it go 100,000 of 1000s?

 

[Mac-7]

Um, Modern Israel was created by the UN.

Why would Jesus care about the Jews, since they don't believe in him, anyway?

Come on, guy, I realize you all hope for the end of the world so you can teach all the sinners and sodomites a lesson, but the reality is, if the world ends, it will probably be because Israel triggered WWIII.

The UN was merely fulfilling God’s will

Why would Jesus care about the Jews, since they don't believe in him, anyway?

Jesus cares about all the people, even you

 

[Mac-7]

I got a feeling it is different this time.

Something tells me all these leaders signed onto it because they are all in on some plan together.

I trump will fail

And its not his fault

There will never be lasting peace in the Holy Land till the End Times

 

[Meathead]

I trump will fail

And its not his fault

There will never be lasting peace in the Holy Land till the End Times

As John Lennon once sang, "Give Peace a Chance".
That's all he was saying.

 

[sartre play]

ALL sides made mistakes, Looking for power & control.
No single answer covers all situations.

 

[JoeB131]

I dont know

You can 2nd guess the Creator but I wont

Whatever God does is Ok with me

But since you’ve obviously pondered the imponderable more than me how did our universe come to be?

Big Bang. That's how the universe came to be. All energy and matter started at a single point and expanded out.

The thing is, with science, you don't need a creator. Everything can be explained with scientific processes, even if we don't fully understand them yet.

You want to worship the "God of the Gaps".

Now, frankly, at my mother's funeral, one of the nuns she worked with and tormented me as a child said something stupid like this, and pretty much I turned my back on religion and couldn't be happier.

 

[georgephillip]

Why?

Because Israel was not allowed to kill every Hamas terrorist in Gaza

We let the roots of Hamas live and like a weed it will grow back again

Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; Israeli Jews have no right to declare war on a population it has a legal responsibility to protect:

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them."

 

[beagle9]

I dont know

You can 2nd guess the Creator but I wont

Whatever God does is Ok with me

But since you’ve obviously pondered the imponderable more than me how did our universe come to be?

Yeah his pondering is for evil purposes, because no man will come before the Lord an ignorant man. He knows, but he chooses the beast instead of the creator. So his choice is to serve the beast instead of the creator, but he's the smart one huh ?

 

[Mac-7]

As John Lennon once sang, "Give Peace a Chance".
That's all he was saying.

John Lennon was a great musician

But otherwise a damn fool

 

[Mac-7]

Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; Israeli Jews have no right to declare war on a population it has a legal responsibility to protect:

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them."

Israel was not occupying Gaza when Hamas attacked

 

[Mac-7]

Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; Israeli Jews have no right to declare war on a population it has a legal responsibility to protect:

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them."

Israel was not occupying Gaza when Hamas attacked

Big Bang. That's how the universe came to be. All energy and matter started at a single point and expanded out.

ok

Where did the Big Bang come from?

All that matter compressed into a single speck

tell us where that came from JoeB131

 

[beagle9]

The UN was merely fulfilling God’s will

Why would Jesus care about the Jews, since they don't believe in him, anyway?

Jesus cares about all the people, even you

That's why he said "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do".

Satan and those intent on serving him will make their own free willed choice in life, and although forgiveness was offered to he who is mankind and she who is womankind upon the earth, it will be that they are free to choose hell instead of heaven even though they know not truly what they do and/or the consequences for it.

May the good Lord have mercy upon their soul's, and if possible rid them of their demon's that they allowed in while they were tempted.

 

[Clipper]

Whats the Biden peace plan. Harris peace plan? Oh it doesn't exist

"Everything Trump touches turns to shit". Like this peace plan.

Anyone who thinks Bibi & the fringe far right wing nutbags who are backing him want lasting peace is out of their mind.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; Israeli Jews have no right to declare war on a population it has a legal responsibility to protect:

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them."

What international law gives terrorists the "legal right" to invade a sovereign nation and slaughter innocent civilians, Georgie? I'm dying to hear this!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; Israeli Jews have no right to declare war on a population it has a legal responsibility to protect:

Five Israeli Talking Points on Gaza—Debunked

"As the occupying power of the Gaza Strip, and the Palestinian Territories more broadly, Israel has an obligation and a duty to protect the civilians under its occupation.

"It governs by military and law enforcement authority to maintain order, protect itself and protect the civilian population under its occupation.

"It cannot simultaneously occupy the territory, thus usurping the self-governing powers that would otherwise belong to Palestinians, and declare war upon them."

You really are a dumbass, Georgie! You cite an article from 2014? That's nine years ago. Would you like me to list the number of rockets that HAMAS had fired into Israel since then? Recount the various terrorist attacks carried out by HAMAS in Israel since then? You seem to think that because Gaza isn't a country that HAMAS somehow has carte blanche to launch thousands of attacks on it's neighbor without a response! That's absurd and every single one of those UN nations that condemns Israel every time they fight back against HAMAS would NEVER stand for terror attacks on their civilians!

 

[georgephillip]

You really are a dumbass, Georgie! You cite an article from 2014? That's nine years ago. Would you like me to list the number of rockets that HAMAS had fired into Israel since then? Recount the various terrorist attacks carried out by HAMAS in Israel since then? You seem to think that because Gaza isn't a country that HAMAS somehow has carte blanche to launch thousands of attacks on it's neighbor without a response! That's absurd and every single one of those UN nations that condemns Israel every time they fight back against HAMAS would NEVER stand for terror attacks on their civilians!

Why are you indifferent to the tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank that have been murdered, maimed, incarcerated, and displaced by Israeli Jews since 1967?

Maybe you can explain why Israeli Jews are entitled to steal Arab land and murder any victims who complain without being labelled greedy, genocidal racists?

 

[georgephillip]

What international law gives terrorists the "legal right" to invade a sovereign nation and slaughter innocent civilians, Georgie? I'm dying to hear this!

When the sovereign nation is populated by racist psychopaths intent on ethnic cleansing (and worse), international law give the victims of such illegal occupation the right to resist violently.

Care to explain by Israeli Jews are allowed to steal Arab land while WHINING about never again?

 

[georgephillip]

Israel was not occupying Gaza when Hamas attacked

Israel controlled six of seven land borders with Gaza on October 7, 2023 along with all of Gaza's coastal waters, airspace, and population registry. Israel also controlled the amount of food and water and internet Gazans receive. Under international law, Israel was and still is the occupying power of Gaza and the West Bank.