The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.

[Grace]

And while Im at it...Im really wondering if its your son you are speaking about concerning his concern....or if its you using him to test the waters here to see if anyone is of like mind as yourself?
Dont mean any disrespect although you have been disrespecting quite a few here that dont/didnt deserve it. Id just like an answer to the question posed by another member that I quoted in post #217 as well as post 220, if you dont mind. Might give me some insight as to what youre really thinking. Then again..maybe not.

 

[Gadawg73]

"OK, fair enough....How do YOU define a sexual deviant?" (Boadicea)

I'll bet that you already know the answer to that question.

For the rest of you rump rangers that are slobbering all over this post let me say this. No other fighting force on this planet can equal the United States Military. If you don't believe me ask the members of the cited militaries. They will confirm this. Then biggest weakness that our military has is the incompetent meddling of bunch of simpering societal engineers.

I agree with most of that.
But I am not a "rump ranger" and your milk is weak calling me one behind an internet board.
Talk about "slobbering".

 

[Gadawg73]

I admit it, I do not invite gay guys to go on fishing trips with me. Good friend of mine, straight as an arrow, had a gay friend he wanted to bring because we had an extra bed room one year. I said no. Guess I have some prejudice still in me.
But I have worked with them for years and have friends and neighbors in the military now. Combat troops returning from Afghanistan.
They tell me gays are already in the military and fairly open about it. So why not allow it and let these good folks BE WHO THEY ARE?

 

[Grace]

I love gay guys.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I'm not interested what other countries allow sexual deviants to do, Boo. America, has the finest military in the world for a reason.

.....'Cause The BRASS is raping.....

....it's OWN TROOPS??!!!!!

You've got some strange ideas about readiness.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"OK, fair enough....How do YOU define a sexual deviant?" (Boadicea)

I'll bet that you already know the answer to that question.

For the rest of you rump rangers that are slobbering all over this post let me say this. No other fighting force on this planet can equal the United States Military.

You'd have made a.....

.....great Spartan!!!!

​

 

[Momanohedhunter]

"As I said, it's a political statement. Telling people they have sex with men has zero to do with defending their country, which is their job in the military. But as you say they need to tell to make the political statement. And on the flip side, if you tell people in other jobs you sleep with men, you don't then shower and sleep with them. Keep your politics out of the military." (Kaz)

The operative word here is sexual, not political. When I'm showering, and the guy standing behind me has a woody I don't experience warm fuzzy feelings. At the same time a civilian co-worker told me that they were gay it wouldn't matter to me. They have a right to make that choice. I have the right to live by the morals, and code of ethics that matter to me. I don't shower with them, and I damn sure don't have to go to war with them.

When you go to war with some one "Trust" becomes the operative word. Esprit de Corp, becomes everything. That one element is the reason that an American unit will fight on against insurmountable odds. When the shit hits the fan it comes down to you and your battle buddies. Nothing else matters. All the sensitivity training in the world wont change that.

One last thing. It is not a right to serve in the U.S. Military; it is an honor.

And that's ware your ignorance is spotlighted proving you have no clue. By the time you go threw boot camp and A-school (AIT) for the Army and what ever for the Marines it is drilled into your head that you will be there for the guy on either side of you. If one happens to be gay it does not matter because he has gone threw all the same shit as you. Woman were a pain in the ass to drill with because they had short legs and the Men had long legs so we took shorter steps and they took longer ones and it all worked out well. Black white red or yellow Male or Female gay or straight the guy on either side of you is there for you and you for them. This issue is an old one in the military and the fact that you claim your two sons are concerned about it is flat bullshit because this has been a long time coming and go's a bit further to spotlight your ignorance on the issue.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

I'm not interested what other countries allow sexual deviants to do, Boo. America, has the finest military in the world for a reason. Why should we bring our military down to the standards of an inferior fighting force?

Israel is an inferior fighting force ? I figured you would know better being the arm chair commando that you are.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

I admit it, I do not invite gay guys to go on fishing trips with me. Good friend of mine, straight as an arrow, had a gay friend he wanted to bring because we had an extra bed room one year. I said no. Guess I have some prejudice still in me.
But I have worked with them for years and have friends and neighbors in the military now. Combat troops returning from Afghanistan.
They tell me gays are already in the military and fairly open about it. So why not allow it and let these good folks BE WHO THEY ARE?

Have been for years. The only ones that got booted made it a point to tell.

 

[rdean]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

I dont know, we got ours when Clinton and Newt shut it down the last time.

 

[gautama]

Boadicea, you asked me a specific question. I answered it even though it had nothing to do with sexual deviants serving in the military. On that subject my thesis remains the same. Sexual deviants shouldn't be allowed to serve openly in the military. Have a nice day.

The subject of communism is a real threat to the USA. I post the link to this liberal web site so that Americans will be aware of what our enemy is up to. Home » cpusa

Okay, let us see if you are a man of conviction.
You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours. Your wounded need evacuation and you can not get them out.
Another unit is coming to help you and you know there a few gay soldiers in that unit.
Do you:
A. Accept their help and rescue your men or
B. Tell them "Queers are perverts and may give AIDS to my men if they come to help us. I would rather sacrifice my men than have queers come to my and my men's aid.

Which is it? No ifs, ands or buts or maybes, wouldas, couldas, oughtas or that would never happens.

I put your odds of getting an answer to this at about 10,000 to 1.

Dr Drek and the other Obamarrhoidal stooge Godog,

First of all, when you pose a hypothetical question like you did with the silent IF ....."You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours, etc. then, reasonably, one has to answer with some reasonable qualifications, such as:

IF the ambushed men are wounded, or dying.....or, in need of help......the conditions in our Army are so fucked up regarding the ******* queers allowed to serve....that one HAS NO CHOICE but to ask for the rescue, hoping against hope, that the ******* queers in the rescuing party aren't going to get wounded and bleed their ******* HIV unto the wounded who are normals.

In short, the answer without the hypotheticals, is as the OP stated: when one is now serving in the Military, ONE NO LONGER HAS A CHOICE BUT TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUEER'S HIV INFECTED BLOOD GET TRANSFERRED TO YOU IN CASE OF WOUNDS !!!

WTF is necessary for you ******* queers, or queer supporters to understand the OBVIOUS ????

 

[bodecea]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

Troops will get paid....my retirement however might not come....but that I can put up with.

 

[Zona]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

I want to see how they will try to spin that little one. They will stop paying the troops and hell even me as a retiree if "they" shut down the government. I bet the republicans who are doing this will still be paid.

They make me sick.

 

[Zona]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

Troops will get paid....my retirement however might not come....but that I can put up with.

Do a little research. NO THEY WONT GET PAID. I just watched a news report on what will stop and I checked it out on the web to back this up.

The troops will not be paid. Congrats republicans.

 

[Zona]

The troops are concerned about the paychecks they won't be getting if Republicans shut down government.

I dont know, we got ours when Clinton and Newt shut it down the last time.

Shrugs.....

Wonk Room » U.S. Troops Won’t Get Paid If The Government Shuts Down

I just watched this on the news...

 

[Momanohedhunter]

I remember it being something we were all worried about, but I am pretty sure we got full pay.

 

[gautama]

Okay, let us see if you are a man of conviction.
You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours. Your wounded need evacuation and you can not get them out.
Another unit is coming to help you and you know there a few gay soldiers in that unit.
Do you:
A. Accept their help and rescue your men or
B. Tell them "Queers are perverts and may give AIDS to my men if they come to help us. I would rather sacrifice my men than have queers come to my and my men's aid.

Which is it? No ifs, ands or buts or maybes, wouldas, couldas, oughtas or that would never happens.

I put your odds of getting an answer to this at about 10,000 to 1.

Dr Drek and the other Obamarrhoidal stooge Godog,

First of all, when you pose a hypothetical question like you did with the silent IF ....."You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours, etc. then, reasonably, one has to answer with some reasonable qualifications, such as:

IF the ambushed men are wounded, or dying.....or, in need of help......the conditions in our Army are so fucked up regarding the ******* queers allowed to serve....that one HAS NO CHOICE but to ask for the rescue, hoping against hope, that the ******* queers in the rescuing party aren't going to get wounded and bleed their ******* HIV unto the wounded who are normals.

In short, the answer without the hypotheticals, is as the OP stated: when one is now serving in the Military, ONE NO LONGER HAS A CHOICE BUT TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUEER'S HIV INFECTED BLOOD GET TRANSFERRED TO YOU IN CASE OF WOUNDS !!!

WTF is necessary for you ******* queers, or queer supporters to understand the OBVIOUS ????

An Addendum: Note GoDog's flamboyant and typically contemptibly phony Obamarrhoidal tactics in the restriction to a rebuttal: "Which is it? No ifs, ands or buts or maybes, wouldas, couldas, oughtas or that would never happens " .......when the Obamarrhoidal arsehole uses the HYPOTHETICAL case himself !!!

The posts by the Obamarrhoidal stooges are typical of the tactics of these arseholes.

 

[bodecea]

I put your odds of getting an answer to this at about 10,000 to 1.

Dr Drek and the other Obamarrhoidal stooge Godog,

First of all, when you pose a hypothetical question like you did with the silent IF ....."You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours, etc. then, reasonably, one has to answer with some reasonable qualifications, such as:

IF the ambushed men are wounded, or dying.....or, in need of help......the conditions in our Army are so fucked up regarding the ******* queers allowed to serve....that one HAS NO CHOICE but to ask for the rescue, hoping against hope, that the ******* queers in the rescuing party aren't going to get wounded and bleed their ******* HIV unto the wounded who are normals.

In short, the answer without the hypotheticals, is as the OP stated: when one is now serving in the Military, ONE NO LONGER HAS A CHOICE BUT TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUEER'S HIV INFECTED BLOOD GET TRANSFERRED TO YOU IN CASE OF WOUNDS !!!

WTF is necessary for you ******* queers, or queer supporters to understand the OBVIOUS ????

An Addendum: Note GoDog's flamboyant and typically contemptibly phony Obamarrhoidal tactics in the restriction to a rebuttal: "Which is it? No ifs, ands or buts or maybes, wouldas, couldas, oughtas or that would never happens " .......when the Obamarrhoidal arsehole uses the HYPOTHETICAL case himself !!!

The posts by the Obamarrhoidal stooges are typical of the tactics of these arseholes.

We are all comforted to know that even the Recruiters would have rejected you....yes, even the Army.

 

[Gadawg73]

I put your odds of getting an answer to this at about 10,000 to 1.

Dr Drek and the other Obamarrhoidal stooge Godog,

First of all, when you pose a hypothetical question like you did with the silent IF ....."You and your men are on patrol and are ambushed and pinned down for hours, etc. then, reasonably, one has to answer with some reasonable qualifications, such as:

IF the ambushed men are wounded, or dying.....or, in need of help......the conditions in our Army are so fucked up regarding the ******* queers allowed to serve....that one HAS NO CHOICE but to ask for the rescue, hoping against hope, that the ******* queers in the rescuing party aren't going to get wounded and bleed their ******* HIV unto the wounded who are normals.

In short, the answer without the hypotheticals, is as the OP stated: when one is now serving in the Military, ONE NO LONGER HAS A CHOICE BUT TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF A QUEER'S HIV INFECTED BLOOD GET TRANSFERRED TO YOU IN CASE OF WOUNDS !!!

WTF is necessary for you ******* queers, or queer supporters to understand the OBVIOUS ????

An Addendum: Note GoDog's flamboyant and typically contemptibly phony Obamarrhoidal tactics in the restriction to a rebuttal: "Which is it? No ifs, ands or buts or maybes, wouldas, couldas, oughtas or that would never happens " .......when the Obamarrhoidal arsehole uses the HYPOTHETICAL case himself !!!

The posts by the Obamarrhoidal stooges are typical of the tactics of these arseholes.

I R a Republican Moe.
Try again with some original material next time.