The Trap Was Set - The Ukrainians Walked into It - And Now It's Closing

[Foxfyre]

There we disagree totally . And factually you are mistaken .

Following the 2014 Minsk agreements the US disregarded everything and piled money and weapons into Ukraine .
They went to war immediately with Donbass and killed 15000 by 2022 and did untold damage with raids.
Before the conflict they had increased daily shelling to nearly 2000 . !!!!
At Feb24, 2022 a 90000 Russian force in Donbass faced a UAF of up to 200 000 men , due to invade Donbass one week ( March1) later .
Moscow pre-empted Kyiv and sensibly took the only sane option .

I don't disagree that Obama and Biden both have been terrible in managing world conflicts and practically begged for war. Otherwise we can agree to disagree on how it has all gone down.

Under the four years of the Trump administration Kim stopped firing missiles over South Korea and Japan. Iran, Russia and China all stopped saber rattling. The war in Syria ended and other than a few minor skirmishes here and there, no hostilities started up. The terrorist groups received swift and severe repercussions for their bad behavior. The war in Afghanistan was winding down responsibly and safely. Four Arab nations made peace/trade agreements with Israel. We had the closest thing to world peace any of us have ever known.

That's what happens when you have a strong President that neither encourages nor condones nor facilitates bad actors. When a weak, feeble President is in the White House, we teeter on the brink of WWIII.

 

[lafayette]

If I recall correctly, Brooklyn is bigger.

So you don't know.

 

[lafayette]

There we disagree totally . And factually you are mistaken .

Following the 2014 Minsk agreements the US disregarded everything and piled money and weapons into Ukraine .
They went to war immediately with Donbass and killed 15000 by 2022 and did untold damage with raids.
Before the conflict they had increased daily shelling to nearly 2000 . !!!!
At Feb24, 2022 a 90000 Russian force in Donbass faced a UAF of up to 200 000 men , due to invade Donbass one week ( March1) later .
Moscow pre-empted Kyiv and sensibly took the only sane option .

Good.

 

[Litwin]

Good.

Depraved Moscow ulus will soon start to, again, send what's left of their scientists to gulags. During and after the October coup , the bolsheviks murdered everyone who was literate, and this is what putin will do.

Hypersonic weapons: Why is Russia accusing its own scientists of treason?

Rights groups warn of state paranoia as experts on hypersonics, the science behind ultrafast missiles, have been jailed.

www.bbc.com

 

[JWBooth]

So you don't know.

Off the top of my head, this afternoon, not exactly.
Initially, the generally agreed upon number is 390 sq. miles, the same as Fairfax Co. Va. and three times larger than Brooklyn. (Ukraine says it has seized 1,000 sq km in Kursk offensive as Putin vows ‘worthy response’)
Militarily insignificant. So much so that the Ukronazis are losing ground daily and the Russians have yet to transfer significant numbers of troops to the area. Given the troops the Ukes pulled from the line in Donetsk to pull this off and the territories lost there in the mean time, it is hardly the bruising that the FAFO faggotry likes to brag it is.

 

[luiza]

Good.

`
Clown .
We are not interested in your worthless judgement .

We are chatting about matters that led up to Feb24, 2022 based on what happened , as distinct from what you as a gullible was scammed into believing .

 

[JWBooth]

Addenda:
The Uke's area of control continues to shrink. SOW has been explicitly pro Ukraine from the beginning of the war. So it would be ridiculous to label this as Putin propaganda.