The tory leadership contest to replace "dead duck" Sunak.

[Deadstick]

File that under never going to happen.

Well it looks like the fascist rabble who support Farage and Robinson are exploiting the murders of children in Southport tonight, they are rioting.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well it looks like the fascist rabble who support Farage and Robinson are exploiting the murders of children in Southport tonight, they are rioting.

I was in hospital all morning. When she picked me up my wife told me the killer was from Rwanda. That shit is everywhere.

Meanwhile the tory nonsense continues.

Kemi Badenoch accused of ‘bullying and traumatising’ staff

They are deffo targetting Badenough. She is the bookies fave, My money is on Patel being behind it. She is a bit more streetwise than the other drips.

Patel = racist bully
Stride = scourge of the poor
Cleverley= ligger
Tugmycock = Crazed zionist
Badenough = Sinister headmistress anti gay anti everything
Jenrick= corrupt opportunist

Thats the choice for those latent fascists.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Mel Stride to stand in Conservative leadership contest

Former work and pensions secretary announces candidacy, saying Tories have ‘lost the trust of the British people’

www.theguardian.com

Oh lord it is going to take till november , having started well before last xmas. Several people have been voted outand it really is an ugly bug ball.

None of these divisive people are capable of leading the party to victory. The next tory PM is still at Oxford. They are unelectable. They are all familiar despised faces from a despised regime that was booted out.

And yet they havent learned anything. They are offering up the same failed policies as before. Maybe they should reflect on why they were booted out. Let Tommy spell it out.

It was everything but mainly a toxic mix of cruelty and incompetence.

Regarding the election none of them has sufficiemt stature to command support of their party. A few of them should have been kicked out by Sunak but he lacked the spine. We will have another leadership tussle before the next election.

The current lot are already sniping at each other so it looks like entertainment incoming.

That's what politics is, keep saying you're listening to the people, all the while telling the people what you hear is what you've been saying all along

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That's what politics is, keep saying you're listening to the people, all the while telling the people what you hear is what you've been saying all along

Its amazing that they have been given a thrashing and yet they are likely to elect someone who wants more of the same.
Majors lot did the same when they were routed. How many dud leaders did they have before cameron ?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Its amazing that they have been given a thrashing and yet they are likely to elect someone who wants more of the same.
Majors lot did the same when they were routed. How many dud leaders did they have before cameron ?

Thing is they know they'll do what they did last time, elect people who can't win until people get fed up of Labour. Once things have been fixed, people will start wanting less taxes... so the Tories will offer that and get in.

Labour are stupid though. With PR the left would have won every election except 2019 (and lost that by less than 1,000 votes), but Labour prefer to be in second place and think they're relevant than have to lose supporter.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thing is they know they'll do what they did last time, elect people who can't win until people get fed up of Labour. Once things have been fixed, people will start wanting less taxes... so the Tories will offer that and get in.

Labour are stupid though. With PR the left would have won every election except 2019 (and lost that by less than 1,000 votes), but Labour prefer to be in second place and think they're relevant than have to lose supporter.

They are dumb. PR would prevent any tory govt ever. The tories are even dumber because they want PR now.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are dumb. PR would prevent any tory govt ever. The tories are even dumber because they want PR now.

Well, it wouldn't prevent any Tory govt ever, things would change. But I haven't seen the Tories say they want PR, just Reform who had it in the "manifesto" or whatever they called it. But they never spoke about it once during the election.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well, it wouldn't prevent any Tory govt ever, things would change. But I haven't seen the Tories say they want PR, just Reform who had it in the "manifesto" or whatever they called it. But they never spoke about it once during the election.

Ive seen pundits working out their seat numbers if we had run on PR. I dont think they are doing policy at the moment. Neither party would back it when in power.
The libs had the best chance in 2010 but we rejected it.

i often thought it was a good thing the current system because it kepy the nutters out. The last few years disproved that. Im all for it now.

In Wales we have PR nd you vote for your choice. In England they dont and you vote for keeping out the tory. Wales is better.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Ive seen pundits working out their seat numbers if we had run on PR. I dont think they are doing policy at the moment. Neither party would back it when in power.
The libs had the best chance in 2010 but we rejected it.

i often thought it was a good thing the current system because it kepy the nutters out. The last few years disproved that. Im all for it now.

In Wales we have PR nd you vote for your choice. In England they dont and you vote for keeping out the tory. Wales is better.

The UK rejected AV, not PR.

PR is a better system. Germany doesn't have its crazies getting in (since they put a 5% requirement to get PR seats) and Denmark (with a 2% cut off) also doesn't have crazies getting in.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The UK rejected AV, not PR.

PR is a better system. Germany doesn't have its crazies getting in (since they put a 5% requirement to get PR seats) and Denmark (with a 2% cut off) also doesn't have crazies getting in.

I couldnt explain the Welsh system. It seems set up to ensure a few token tories get in.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I couldnt explain the Welsh system. It seems set up to ensure a few token tories get in.

By the looks of it Wales has FPTP with a regional aspect that is like PR, but not really.

Labour got 39% in the constituencies, 36% in the regional, and got 30 out of 60 seats.

Seems... like it doesn't work.

 

[Deadstick]

Its amazing that they have been given a thrashing and yet they are likely to elect someone who wants more of the same.
Majors lot did the same when they were routed. How many dud leaders did they have before cameron ?

Don't forget they have the MSM on their side to propagate the Tory propaganda but at times they are very subtle about it, unless its the likes of Times news and GB news they are just propagandists for rightwing nutters masquerading as journalists, since the fascists kicked off in Southport i have not seen or heard Farage.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

By the looks of it Wales has FPTP with a regional aspect that is like PR, but not really.

Labour got 39% in the constituencies, 36% in the regional, and got 30 out of 60 seats.

Seems... like it doesn't work.

The results are ok. They broadly reflect where Wales is at. I dont think anyone understands it fully.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Don't forget they have the MSM on their side to propagate the Tory propaganda but at times they are very subtle about it, unless its the likes of Times news and GB news they are just propagandists for rightwing nutters masquerading as journalists, since the fascists kicked off in Southport i have not seen or heard Farage.

He is in the bunker at Trump Tower sucking off little donny.
Or
He is busy helping an immigrant womens health group in Clacton.

You decide.

 

[Deadstick]

He is in the bunker at Trump Tower sucking off little donny.
Or
He is busy helping an immigrant womens health group in Clacton.

You decide.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Kemi Badenoch asked to use taxpayers’ money to pay for holiday flight, sources claim

Exclusive: MP also allegedly used her ministerial car for gym trips and ordered advisers to run personal errands

www.theguardian.com

This is deffo plsnted info. I wonder what else they have got ?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The results are ok. They broadly reflect where Wales is at. I dont think anyone understands it fully.

Well, they don't. Only 1/3rd of people voted Labour, and Labour got half the seats.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well, they don't. Only 1/3rd of people voted Labour, and Labour got half the seats.

Tories get a few token seats. They didnt get any in a FPTP election. Its working well.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Badenoch campaign team member used offensive names about a councillor

Insulting language in private message sent by Oliver Cooper to an activist colleague in 2017 emerged in a high court case

www.theguardian.com

This is getting a bit pathetic now. We know she is shit. Nobody is shocked by this. But it does give us a view into the future of the tory party.

My socialist friends now reckon that it might be civil servants feeding these stoties to the press. Lord knows she has bullied enough of them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Tories get a few token seats. They didnt get any in a FPTP election. Its working well.

The Tories got 8 constituency seats in the 2021 election. Then with that other system they got another 8.

The problem is that without proper democracy, you get problems. Even if you don't like the Tories and don't want them to have seats, if Labour think they can win, no matter what, you end up with parties like the Republicans and the Democrats.

And Welsh Labour aren't that good. Better than the Tories, but still....