The Top Three Reasons Why Liberals Hate Conservatives

[rightwinger]

Again......Republicans are 90% white

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Hey Our doors are open but those racist blacks choose to stay on the plantation. A 90% white party in a 74% white country is proof (according to you) that Republicans are racist, but you refuse to consider that blacks who voted 95% for barack obama might be racist.

Dismissed!

Yes.....and all those plantation analogies are sure to have blacks flocking to your party. Like a typical Republican, you blame blacks for not buying into your message without asking.......What is wrong with our message?

If they were any smarter than you, they would see the plantation analogy as valid.
Pre Civil War, blacks worked for their masters in return for meager food and shelter. 150 years later, they vote for the same people in return for SNAP and Section 8.
As long as they have full bellies and a roof over their head and maybe a free cell phone, they have no incentive to work hard at school and a career and remain happily at the plantation.

I LOVE it....Go with that

Tell blacks that they have it as bad as slaves did 150 years ago. That one always causes blacks to flock to the Republican Party

After you convince them they are in slavery, then you can tell them about all the great things Republicans have planned to make their lives better

We want them to go to work. We want them to self identify as Americans without the hyphen. We want them to prosper and be successful. We want them to be just as outraged by the government rewarding sloth as we are.

That's the plan. What's yours?

Give them free shit so they'll stay on the farm, right?

I told you I love your plan.......but they are not stupid
You will have to tell them about all the employment opportunities you will bring to their communities

Reminds me of the old saying
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime

Now, the problem with your plan is there are no fish in those neighborhoods

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is not a recitation of facts; it is a series of smears. It is the construction of a giant cartoonish super-villain, made of straw and woven together with calumny. The giant straw villain is then publicly burned, in a narcissistic orgy of self-adulation. Of course, the torches of the “best” people burn the brightest.

Well, duh. Liberals know they cannot compete on substance, so they must make things up.

 

[Czernobog]

The data simply does not support that claim.

The majority were and still are against the new Affordable Health Care Act
Majority of Americans Still Disapprove of Healthcare Law

The decline of the conservative Democrat - The Washington Post
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

There is plenty of Data that supports the claim.
Conservative and moderate representation is declining in the Democrat party.

The problem is that all your link to the "Obamacare" stories demonstrate is that Republicans have done a better job of marketing their attacks, than Democrats have their defense. You see, you're right. Most Americans oppose health law but like provisions. When polled generically , without the name attached, the majority of Americans approve of the majority of the provisions within Obamacare. Just as an example, most Americans approved of the provision that provided for the expansion of medicare:

And this has proven true across the board. The one glaring exception being the Individual mandate. So, really, all these "Everyone hates Obamacare" polls demonstrate is how good the Republicans were at making the Affordable Care act all about that single provision, while getting the American Public to ignore every other provision in the act that they actually love.

Or maybe it is because of their own individual experiences with the new program and the 6 million who have lost their health care insurance that was very good for them as individuals.
Don't ignore the fact that Conservative Dems and moderates are on the decline within the parties representation.
The Dems are representing the Libs just like the Repubs are representing the conservatives. Both have gone too far left and too far right.

I would challenge that claim. The problem isn't that "Conservative" Dems are on the decline, the problem is that the Conservative Right has moved so far to the right, that those who were once considered "Conservative, and Moderate Democrats" are now perceived, from the current vantage point of the Right, as "extreme liberalism".

Just so we can see where you are coming from, name a couple conservative Democrats.

Jennifer Garrison of Ohio, Gwen Graham of Florida, and James Lee Witt of Arkansas, just to name a few

Now, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being extreme left, rate obama, hillary clinton, John McCain, Allen West and yourself.

Obama: 3
Hillary: 5
McCain: -3
West: -10
Myself: 4

 

[Czernobog]

Hmmm...so, before a woman can kill an innocent American citizen in her womb, some people want her to be required to see the victim before she permits the murder to take place...yeah...totally totalitarian....thanks for playing...

Fetus were granted citizenship?!?! What the fuck?!?! When did that happen, and how did I miss that?!?!? Could you please cite a source to the news story that covers the passage of that legislation?

 

[Czernobog]

Did you seriously just say that with a straight face! From the guy that supports the party that wants to tell people who they can, and cannot marry?!?! From the guy that supports the party that wants to force women to have government mandated vaginal probes?!?! From the party that wants to tell women what they can, and cannot do with their own bodies?!?!

Why is it that the baby is left out of that rant...considering that is who needs the protection from government sanctioned killing....as to marriage....they just didn't want the definition to change from what it has been throughout time, and Hmmmmm...seems to me that since blacks vote over 95% democrat and they were the ones who helped defeat gay marriage when it was on ballot initiatives...it isn't only Republicans who wanted to keep the definition the same....again....a lot of democrats don't want it to change either......it was the libs who want to change things...and now the "tolerant" ones, who just want to marry the people they love....are going after anyone who refuses to participate in the ceremony....

That's because we aren't talking about a baby. Sorry. I assumed I was having a discussion with someone who, at least, was familiar with the English language:

baby
[ ˈbābē ]
noun
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born:
"his wife's just had a baby"

Not in vitro, but actually born. This is why a fetus is what is talked about during a pregnancy. If you want to debate the abortion issue, I'm happy to do that, but you don't get to just make up definitions for words in order to add emotional impact to your arguments.

 

[2aguy]

I'm happy to do that, but you don't get to just make up definitions for words in order to add emotional impact to your arguments.

Neither do you...killing a baby...an unborn human is still murder...and wether society sanctions it or not...it is murder...and that was simply to accurately describe why some people would like to women to have to see an image of the baby they are about to have murdered before they allow it to happen...it will haunt them all of their days...and it won't do the baby much good either...

 

[Rikurzhen]

Whites, be they male, female, old or young, flock to the Republican Party...

I'm sorry. Can you cite some reliable sources to support that claim? Cuz, I gotta say, I'm not seeing a whole lot of "flocking"...

I saw a few sites and I figured you'd accept the Huffington Post as being reliable, so see this:

Here's the Washington Post:

 

[Rikurzhen]

Couldn't have asked for a better example of republican hate than this one:

I openly and proudly hate liberals. They lie. They bare false witness. They foment racial division. They foment gender division. They foment class envy. They undermine our Constitution, laws, and elections. I wasn't born hating liberals I learned to hate them.

If liberals stopped being such totalitarians then normal people wouldn't despise them. Think about it - never in history have people liked their oppressors.

Liberals should stop being totalitarians?!?! Did you seriously just say that with a straight face! From the guy that supports the party that wants to tell people who they can, and cannot marry?!?! From the guy that supports the party that wants to force women to have government mandated vaginal probes?!?! From the party that wants to tell women what they can, and cannot do with their own bodies?!?! Pal, I don't know what you think totalitarian means, but it obviously doesn't mean what you think it does!

Have you seen how liberals in California have shoved their noses into the private sexual affairs of couples with their new law on consent? Have you noticed how liberals have stripped people of their right to free association? Have you noticed how liberals are right now prepared to criminalize speech that they don't like?

Also look at the constant efforts to strip people of their 2nd Amendments rights. Totalitarian impulses run deep with liberals. They've succeeded in raping people of their free association rights, they're well on their way with suppressing speech, they're regulating what soda we can drink, what cigarettes we can smoke, how we conduct our sex lives.

 

[Czernobog]

Did you seriously just say that with a straight face! From the guy that supports the party that wants to tell people who they can, and cannot marry?!?! From the guy that supports the party that wants to force women to have government mandated vaginal probes?!?! From the party that wants to tell women what they can, and cannot do with their own bodies?!?!

Why is it that the baby is left out of that rant...considering that is who needs the protection from government sanctioned killing....as to marriage....they just didn't want the definition to change from what it has been throughout time, and Hmmmmm...seems to me that since blacks vote over 95% democrat and they were the ones who helped defeat gay marriage when it was on ballot initiatives...it isn't only Republicans who wanted to keep the definition the same....again....a lot of democrats don't want it to change either......it was the libs who want to change things...and now the "tolerant" ones, who just want to marry the people they love....are going after anyone who refuses to participate in the ceremony....

I'm happy to do that, but you don't get to just make up definitions for words in order to add emotional impact to your arguments.

Neither do you...killing a baby...an unborn human is still murder...and wether society sanctions it or not...it is murder...and that was simply to accurately describe why some people would like to women to have to see an image of the baby they are about to have murdered before they allow it to happen...it will haunt them all of their days...and it won't do the baby much good either...

Except an unborn human fetus (you forgot that part) is, by definition, not a baby, not a person, not an individual. So, abortion, by definition, is not murder. It is you, Sir, who are trying to make up the meanings of words to add emotional impact to your argument.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Couldn't have asked for a better example of republican hate than this one:

I openly and proudly hate liberals. They lie. They bare false witness. They foment racial division. They foment gender division. They foment class envy. They undermine our Constitution, laws, and elections. I wasn't born hating liberals I learned to hate them.

If liberals stopped being such totalitarians then normal people wouldn't despise them. Think about it - never in history have people liked their oppressors.

Liberals should stop being totalitarians?!?! Did you seriously just say that with a straight face! From the guy that supports the party that wants to tell people who they can, and cannot marry?!?!

Conservatives aren't telling people who they can marry. Homosexuals have always had the same right to marry as heterosexuals Rock Hudson was married , so too was Dr. Sally Ride. No one stopped them from marrying.

From the guy that supports the party that wants to force women to have government mandated vaginal probes?!?!

I have no clue what you're talking about. The Republicans aren't forcing all women to have "government mandated vaginal probes." Come to think of it, wasn't it Democrats who forced all young girls to get Gardisil vaccinations?

From the party that wants to tell women what they can, and cannot do with their own bodies?!?!

Is this abortion that you're referring to? No one is telling women what they must do with their bodies. There are two issues in play with abortion - pro-life people believe murder should be stopped and the second issue is that Republicans believe in equality, and this means that men and women should be treated equally under the law.. Once men have sex, then they must accept the consequences which arise from their choice, so if the woman becomes pregnant, then the man will be a father. At the very moment that a man makes his decision and takes responsibility for the consequences, a woman does the same. Women though want a do-over than men don't get, an 2nd decision on whether the kill the baby or to keep it. That's not equality, now is it?

 

[Rikurzhen]

leftist believe in theories and no amount of real life proof will deter them from their theories.


cons like to go with what they think will work, and if it doesn't, move on to the next idea.

only problem is our pols don't care about results

Conservatives believe in what they see, liberals see what they believe.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Hmmm...so, before a woman can kill an innocent American citizen in her womb, some people want her to be required to see the victim before she permits the murder to take place...yeah...totally totalitarian....thanks for playing...

Fetus were granted citizenship?!?! What the fuck?!?! When did that happen, and how did I miss that?!?!? Could you please cite a source to the news story that covers the passage of that legislation?

Always happy to help

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".
​

See Scott Peterson:

Scott Lee Peterson (born October 24, 1972) is an American prisoner currently on death row in California convicted of murdering his wife, Laci Peterson, and their unborn son in Modesto, California in 2002.​

 

[80zephyr]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

You might have a point if these were true,but they are not,the only truth hear is the fact that the left will say anything to personally smear what they see as a threat,and anyone different is a threat.They do NOT practice what they preach.

Easy....convince people otherwise

Republicans are not a "white mans party" show why 90% white is not a white mans party. Explain why only six blacks have been elected to higher office by Republicans in the last 100 years

MONTGOMERY, Alabama --- The Alabama Republican Party says 11 black candidates are running in the GOP primary on June 3, and officials say that shows the party is making strides with African Americans.

State Republican Party Chairman Bill Armistead, who hired a full-time minority outreach director last year, said he thinks the GOP can build on the number.

“It’s by far the largest we’ve ever had,” Armistead said. “Is it where we want to be? No. We will have more in the future.”

Republicans hold every statewide office in Alabama and a majority in the Legislature, but none of those seats are held by black Republicans.

Joe Reed, longtime leader of the Alabama Democratic Conference, said blacks won’t move to the Republican Party on any significant scale because of GOP opposition to programs such as Obamacare, raising the minimum wage, extending long-term unemployment benefits and other “bread and butter” issues that Reed said help working families.
There are five black Republican candidates for the state House of Representatives, one for the Public Service Commission, two for sheriff, two for seats on county commissions and one for a county school board seat, according to Troy Towns, minority outreach director for the state GOP. Another black Republican is running in a special election to fill a vacant House seat in Birmingham to complete a current term..

Towns said there was only one black Republican in the 2010 primary and one in 2012. He thinks this year’s number is not a fluke, but a sign of things to come.

Eleven blacks on the ballot as Republicans in Alabama s June primary AL.com

But some experts say the small number of black Republicans in office could also emerge as major candidates. Unlike black Democrats, black Republicans tend to get elected in majority-white areas, meaning they often have a broader coalition of voters who have already supported them when they seek a higher office.

Obama aside blacks struggle to win major offices theGrio

I ask about blacks elected to higher office and you come back with state legislature

Higher office: Congressman, Senator, Governor, President

Republicans have elected SIX in the last 100 years and five have been Congressmen

And how many have white Democrats elected? Because of gerrymandering, I figure all the Dem blacks elected have been elected by other blacks.

Do you know of any mainly white areas that have elected black representation?

Mark

 

[rdean]

Republicans hate anything that isn’t white, wealthy, and christian at least in appearance. They hate the poor, women, and minorities. They hate science and don’t believe that the global warming we clearly are experiencing is man made. They hate any government programs that help the poor and minorities, and the particularly despise immigrants, particularly the illegal kind. They love programs that line the pockets of oil companies, mining companies, and are willing to export jobs with wild abandon.

They hate public education, and they despise public schools and the public school teachers and public university professors. And since the do not respect the market place of ideas, they hate tenure (that gives teachers academic freedom) because it prevents them from firing teachers who are Democrats and who might infect some student with their liberal ideas. They want insurance companies to make a maximum of profit, and are perfectly willing for the health insurance companies to kill people by refusing service to anyone that might cost them a buck more than the median expense. They don’t care about clean food because it might cost the food corporation a little money, and they don’t care about clean water because cleaning up the waste will cost their precious corporate persons a little money.

This is not a recitation of facts; it is a series of smears.

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It's only smears if it isn't true.

Obama is only far left to the right because he's black. See above for a better explanation.

 

[rdean]

Hmmm...so, before a woman can kill an innocent American citizen in her womb, some people want her to be required to see the victim before she permits the murder to take place...yeah...totally totalitarian....thanks for playing...

Fetus were granted citizenship?!?! What the fuck?!?! When did that happen, and how did I miss that?!?!? Could you please cite a source to the news story that covers the passage of that legislation?

Always happy to help

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".
​

See Scott Peterson:

Scott Lee Peterson (born October 24, 1972) is an American prisoner currently on death row in California convicted of murdering his wife, Laci Peterson, and their unborn son in Modesto, California in 2002.​

Republicans care little about babies. They only care for the fetus. True Story.

 

[rightwinger]

The OP seems to cover almost all the reasons Republicans are hated

But rather than trying to mitigate the damage, they just deny that it is true. More Republicans living in a fantasy bubble where everyone loves them

You might have a point if these were true,but they are not,the only truth hear is the fact that the left will say anything to personally smear what they see as a threat,and anyone different is a threat.They do NOT practice what they preach.

Easy....convince people otherwise

Republicans are not a "white mans party" show why 90% white is not a white mans party. Explain why only six blacks have been elected to higher office by Republicans in the last 100 years

MONTGOMERY, Alabama --- The Alabama Republican Party says 11 black candidates are running in the GOP primary on June 3, and officials say that shows the party is making strides with African Americans.

State Republican Party Chairman Bill Armistead, who hired a full-time minority outreach director last year, said he thinks the GOP can build on the number.

“It’s by far the largest we’ve ever had,” Armistead said. “Is it where we want to be? No. We will have more in the future.”

Republicans hold every statewide office in Alabama and a majority in the Legislature, but none of those seats are held by black Republicans.

Joe Reed, longtime leader of the Alabama Democratic Conference, said blacks won’t move to the Republican Party on any significant scale because of GOP opposition to programs such as Obamacare, raising the minimum wage, extending long-term unemployment benefits and other “bread and butter” issues that Reed said help working families.
There are five black Republican candidates for the state House of Representatives, one for the Public Service Commission, two for sheriff, two for seats on county commissions and one for a county school board seat, according to Troy Towns, minority outreach director for the state GOP. Another black Republican is running in a special election to fill a vacant House seat in Birmingham to complete a current term..

Towns said there was only one black Republican in the 2010 primary and one in 2012. He thinks this year’s number is not a fluke, but a sign of things to come.

Eleven blacks on the ballot as Republicans in Alabama s June primary AL.com

But some experts say the small number of black Republicans in office could also emerge as major candidates. Unlike black Democrats, black Republicans tend to get elected in majority-white areas, meaning they often have a broader coalition of voters who have already supported them when they seek a higher office.

Obama aside blacks struggle to win major offices theGrio

I ask about blacks elected to higher office and you come back with state legislature

Higher office: Congressman, Senator, Governor, President

Republicans have elected SIX in the last 100 years and five have been Congressmen

And how many have white Democrats elected? Because of gerrymandering, I figure all the Dem blacks elected have been elected by other blacks.

Do you know of any mainly white areas that have elected black representation?

Mark

Who ever said black areas cannot elect a republican?

 

[Czernobog]

Hmmm...so, before a woman can kill an innocent American citizen in her womb, some people want her to be required to see the victim before she permits the murder to take place...yeah...totally totalitarian....thanks for playing...

Fetus were granted citizenship?!?! What the fuck?!?! When did that happen, and how did I miss that?!?!? Could you please cite a source to the news story that covers the passage of that legislation?

Always happy to help

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".
​

See Scott Peterson:

Scott Lee Peterson (born October 24, 1972) is an American prisoner currently on death row in California convicted of murdering his wife, Laci Peterson, and their unborn son in Modesto, California in 2002.​

There's only one little problem with your complete ignorance to United States law. From your own source:

...the bill explicitly contained a provision excepting abortion, stating that the bill would not "be construed to permit the prosecution" "of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf", "of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child" or "of any woman with respect to her unborn child."

In other words, while the bill, which was passed against the opposition of Pro-Choice groups, who knew very well that this was a back-door attempt at passing personhood, defines, for the very narrow purpose of crimes committed against a woman, a fetus as an unborn species of homo sapiens, it falls far short of defining a fetus as an individual person with all of the rights, and privileges of such, and, in fact, makes it clear that it was in no way, shape, or form an attempt at criminalizing abortion.

Would you like to try again?

 

[Czernobog]

Conservatives aren't telling people who they can marry. Homosexuals have always had the same right to marry as heterosexuals Rock Hudson was married , so too was Dr. Sally Ride. No one stopped them from marrying.

That is telling them who they can marry. "You can marry anyone you like...just so long as we approve"

I have no clue what you're talking about. The Republicans aren't forcing all women to have "government mandated vaginal probes." Come to think of it, wasn't it Democrats who forced all young girls to get Gardisil vaccinations?

You have no idea what I'm talking about? Well, here lemme help you out:

How Republicans Quietly Mandate Transvaginal Probes When They Think No One’s Paying Attention

Now, in all fairness, it should be pointed out that, when the public was made aware of this law, mostly through the efforts of MSNBC, Governor "Vaginal Probe" McDonnell (Republican - Virginia) quickly decided not to sign the bill, and it was replaced with government mandated ultrasounds, instead, because that so much less intrusive into people's personal business (yes that's sarcasm). However, the point was, when it looked like no one would be looking, your guys did, in fact, try to mandate government forced vaginal probes.

Is this abortion that you're referring to? No one is telling women what they must do with their bodies. There are two issues in play with abortion - pro-life people believe murder should be stopped and the second issue is that Republicans believe in equality, and this means that men and women should be treated equally under the law.. Once men have sex, then they must accept the consequences which arise from their choice, so if the woman becomes pregnant, then the man will be a father. At the very moment that a man makes his decision and takes responsibility for the consequences, a woman does the same. Women though want a do-over than men don't get, an 2nd decision on whether the kill the baby or to keep it. That's not equality, now is it?

The first issue is based on opinion, and not medical fact, so is irrelevant. The second presumes that every man who has sex "decides to become a father". That is so patently ridiculous that it doesn't even warrant debate. The bottom line is, regardless of your justification for doing so, you feel that you have the right to tell a woman what she can, and cannot do with her own body.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Would you like to try again?

I don't need to try again. There are people today sitting on death row for murder because they murdered a fetus. Murder cannot be committed against a rock, nor a tree, nor a fish, nor earwax, nor a clump of tumor cells extracted from your arm, murder can only be committed against a person.

This means that we have a paradox which needs explaining. The personhood of a fetus doesn't change depending on who is murdering it, so in order to allow for murderers to be tried for their crime we have to engage in legal fiction such that murder committed by a mother and an abortion physician is not treated as murder while murder committed by Scott Peterson is treated as murder.

If Laci Peterson had had an abortion earlier on that day, the fetus would still be just as dead as when Scott Peterson had murdered it, so clearly nothing about the status of the fetus had changed, so if the fetus' status has not changed then the law is what has changed, pretending that abortion is not murder when the mother decides but is murder when the father decides.

 

[Czernobog]

Would you like to try again?

I don't need to try again. There are people today sitting on death row for murder because they murdered a fetus. Murder cannot be committed against a rock, nor a tree, nor a fish, nor earwax, nor a clump of tumor cells extracted from your arm, murder can only be committed against a person.

This means that we have a paradox which needs explaining. The personhood of a fetus doesn't change depending on who is murdering it, so in order to allow for murderers to be tried for their crime we have to engage in legal fiction such that murder committed by a mother and an abortion physician is not treated as murder while murder committed by Scott Peterson is treated as murder.

If Laci Peterson had had an abortion earlier on that day, the fetus would still be just as dead as when Scott Peterson had murdered it, so clearly nothing about the status of the fetus had changed, so if the fetus' status has not changed then the law is what has changed, pretending that abortion is not murder when the mother decides but is murder when the father decides.

I agree. We do have a paradox that needs correcting, which is why I am fully in favor of repealing every one of those stupid "unborn victims laws". they never should have been passed in the first place. They were simply back-door ways to try and give personhood to something that was never a person, in the name of giving "added protection" to pregnant women.

The laws were stupid when they were passed; and they remain stupid to this day.