I would challenge that claim. The problem isn't that "Conservative" Dems are on the decline, the problem is that the Conservative Right has moved so far to the right, that those who were once considered "Conservative, and Moderate Democrats" are now perceived, from the current vantage point of the Right, as "extreme liberalism".The problem is that all your link to the "Obamacare" stories demonstrate is that Republicans have done a better job of marketing their attacks, than Democrats have their defense. You see, you're right. Most Americans oppose health law but like provisions. When polled generically , without the name attached, the majority of Americans approve of the majority of the provisions within Obamacare. Just as an example, most Americans approved of the provision that provided for the expansion of medicare:
And this has proven true across the board. The one glaring exception being the Individual mandate. So, really, all these "Everyone hates Obamacare" polls demonstrate is how good the Republicans were at making the Affordable Care act all about that single provision, while getting the American Public to ignore every other provision in the act that they actually love.
Or maybe it is because of their own individual experiences with the new program and the 6 million who have lost their health care insurance that was very good for them as individuals.
Don't ignore the fact that Conservative Dems and moderates are on the decline within the parties representation.
The Dems are representing the Libs just like the Repubs are representing the conservatives. Both have gone too far left and too far right.
Well, idunno...I notice that all of a sudden Repubicans don't wanna mention the ACA, and you guys were all about how that was gonna be the key issue in this election, and was going to be the thing that allowed Republicans another "Right-Wing wave" into congress like 2010. What happened to that?6 million did not lose their healthcare insuranceThe problem is that all your link to the "Obamacare" stories demonstrate is that Republicans have done a better job of marketing their attacks, than Democrats have their defense. You see, you're right. Most Americans oppose health law but like provisions. When polled generically , without the name attached, the majority of Americans approve of the majority of the provisions within Obamacare. Just as an example, most Americans approved of the provision that provided for the expansion of medicare:
And this has proven true across the board. The one glaring exception being the Individual mandate. So, really, all these "Everyone hates Obamacare" polls demonstrate is how good the Republicans were at making the Affordable Care act all about that single provision, while getting the American Public to ignore every other provision in the act that they actually love.
Or maybe it is because of their own individual experiences with the new program and the 6 million who have lost their health care insurance that was very good for them as individuals.
Don't ignore the fact that Conservative Dems and moderates are on the decline within the parties representation.
The Dems are representing the Libs just like the Repubs are representing the conservatives. Both have gone too far left and too far right.
That is another piece of rightwing misinformation to turn people against Obamacare
Go ahead libs run on Obamacare so I can laugh in your face when your candidates go down in flames. I think we all know your candidates don't have the guts to, they are gutless cowards when it comes to standing up and taking responsibility for Obamacare.
Liberals should stop being totalitarians?!?! Did you seriously just say that with a straight face! From the guy that supports the party that wants to tell people who they can, and cannot marry?!?! From the guy that supports the party that wants to force women to have government mandated vaginal probes?!?! From the party that wants to tell women what they can, and cannot do with their own bodies?!?! Pal, I don't know what you think totalitarian means, but it obviously doesn't mean what you think it does!
But, if that were true, if Obama "broke the law", then you guys should have no problem making that case to the American public, and still sweeping Congress like in 2010. So, why isn't that the victory cry of the Republicans? Funny how we heard all about that for a few weeks - The Right was screaming "IMPEACH!!!", and "LAWSUIT!!!""", and all it did was cause a massive fund raising coup for the Democrats, and suddenly Republicans shut the **** up, and we haven't heard a peep about that since...
Just so we can see where you are coming from, name a couple conservative Democrats.I would challenge that claim. The problem isn't that "Conservative" Dems are on the decline, the problem is that the Conservative Right has moved so far to the right, that those who were once considered "Conservative, and Moderate Democrats" are now perceived, from the current vantage point of the Right, as "extreme liberalism".The problem is that all your link to the "Obamacare" stories demonstrate is that Republicans have done a better job of marketing their attacks, than Democrats have their defense. You see, you're right. Most Americans oppose health law but like provisions. When polled generically , without the name attached, the majority of Americans approve of the majority of the provisions within Obamacare. Just as an example, most Americans approved of the provision that provided for the expansion of medicare:
And this has proven true across the board. The one glaring exception being the Individual mandate. So, really, all these "Everyone hates Obamacare" polls demonstrate is how good the Republicans were at making the Affordable Care act all about that single provision, while getting the American Public to ignore every other provision in the act that they actually love.
Or maybe it is because of their own individual experiences with the new program and the 6 million who have lost their health care insurance that was very good for them as individuals.
Don't ignore the fact that Conservative Dems and moderates are on the decline within the parties representation.
The Dems are representing the Libs just like the Repubs are representing the conservatives. Both have gone too far left and too far right.
You might have a point if these were true,but they are not,the only truth hear is the fact that the left will say anything to personally smear what they see as a threat,and anyone different is a threat.They do NOT practice what they preach.
Yes.....and all those plantation analogies are sure to have blacks flocking to your party. Like a typical Republican, you blame blacks for not buying into your message without asking.......What is wrong with our message?Hey Our doors are open but those racist blacks choose to stay on the plantation. A 90% white party in a 74% white country is proof (according to you) that Republicans are racist, but you refuse to consider that blacks who voted 95% for barack obama might be racist.not surprising to me......i know how lots of them feel about the brown folk.....plus look how they fucked the gays over out here in 2 elections...This thread doesn't disappoint
. In 2008, a survey was done that showed similar numbers of Republicans (5.7) and Democrats (6.8) would not vote for a black presidential candidate....Democrats were slightly (1.1%) more likely to show racist thinking than Republicans
That's gonna leave a mark
geezus....thats the best impersonation of Dean yet....good job RW....
Again......Republicans are 90% white
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Yeah and that poster referred to an ultra sound as a vaginal probe. More "honesty" from our lefty lunatics.
Yes.....and all those plantation analogies are sure to have blacks flocking to your party. Like a typical Republican, you blame blacks for not buying into your message without asking.......What is wrong with our message?Hey Our doors are open but those racist blacks choose to stay on the plantation. A 90% white party in a 74% white country is proof (according to you) that Republicans are racist, but you refuse to consider that blacks who voted 95% for barack obama might be racist.not surprising to me......i know how lots of them feel about the brown folk.....plus look how they fucked the gays over out here in 2 elections...This thread doesn't disappoint
. In 2008, a survey was done that showed similar numbers of Republicans (5.7) and Democrats (6.8) would not vote for a black presidential candidate....Democrats were slightly (1.1%) more likely to show racist thinking than Republicans
That's gonna leave a mark
geezus....thats the best impersonation of Dean yet....good job RW....
Again......Republicans are 90% white
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If they were any smarter than you, they would see the plantation analogy as valid.
Pre Civil War, blacks worked for their masters in return for meager food and shelter. 150 years later, they vote for the same people in return for SNAP and Section 8.
As long as they have full bellies and a roof over their head and maybe a free cell phone, they have no incentive to work hard at school and a career and remain happily at the plantation.
