The thread where I make Democrats angry- why we lost in 2024!

[OKTexas]

I'm saying nothing of the sort.

YOu seem to be the one who wants to say, "you aren't a woman because you can't make babies."

So, let's say, hypothetically, that at some point in the future, transgender women are able to have babies?

Artificial wombs, uterus transplants, maybe even genetic resequencing.

Would they then qualify as women in your eyes?

Or let me put it another way.

Let's say, assuming you were still single, you met this woman in a bar.

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The night took the way it took and you enjoyed a night together. then much later, you find out she was born male.

Would that upset you? I admit, it would probably upset me, but I have to admit, that is my hangup.

Stop pretending biology and the pieces parts they have at that time is irrelevant. When you show me a person that just changed their mind about their birth gender and the remainder of their body just falls in line biologically, they we can talk. You can put a continental kit on a VW Bug and it will always be a VW Bug.

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[TheGreatSatan]

You blew it on number 9, guys in women's sports, in women's locker and bathrooms will always be a loser. There is no good way to put lipstick on that pig.

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The democrats support for this is proof they are mentally ill.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Why did kamala get 10 million less votes then Joe?

 

[JoeB131]

Stop pretending biology and the pieces parts they have at that time is irrelevant. When you show me a person that just changed their mind about their birth gender and the remainder of their body just falls in line biologically, they we can talk. You can put a continental kit on a VW Bug and it will always be a VW Bug.

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Cars aren't people.

The question is, is it biology or psychology that is the issue here?

If a man has testicular cancer and has them removed, does he stop being a man?

Or is what makes him a male in his brain?

Scientific studies have proven that the brain structure of transgender people resembles their identified sex more than their biological sex. This is why gender isn't binary, it's often on a spectrum.

 

[JoeB131]

Why did kamala get 10 million less votes then Joe?

She didn't. She got 6 million less.

Part of that was she wasn't a good candidate.

Part of that was that voter participation was down.

Part of that was some voters were too racist or misogynist to vote for her. Again, go back to my original point, where I discuss how she lost ground with Asians and Hispanics.

Part of the reason was without Covid, people just didn't see the urgency to vote, especially if they lived in a state which wasn't a swing state.

 

[pknopp]

Odd, I have argued much of this for years but you disagreed with me.

 

[JoeB131]

Odd, I have argued much of this for years but you disagreed with me.

Well, no, you argued that Democrats should have gone further to the crazy left and made Commie Bernie the nominee. That's like the opposite of what they should be doing.

 

[pknopp]

Well, no, you argued that Democrats should have gone further to the crazy left and made Commie Bernie the nominee. That's like the opposite of what they should be doing.

To you, UHC is far left so............To you not getting us involved in stupid wars (which hurt the Dems bad) is far left. To you making the "rich pay their fair share" is far left.

Funny how now it seems it might actually be Trump to do this.

 

[JoeB131]

To you, UHC is far left so............To you not getting us involved in stupid wars (which hurt the Dems bad) is far left. To you making the "rich pay their fair share" is far left.

Funny how now it seems it might actually be Trump to do this.

Except I've pretty consistently argued for UHC and making the rich pay their fair share.

I'm sorry, I must have missed where we got into a war where US troops were on the ground. Perhaps you can point this out to me.

 

[pknopp]

Except I've pretty consistently argued for UHC and making the rich pay their fair share.

But yet you support those who refuse to do either and call those who might, far left.

I'm sorry, I must have missed where we got into a war where US troops were on the ground. Perhaps you can point this out to me.

Not interested in your spin. You are perfectly aware of what I am saying.

Seems maybe once again, it is you getting angry.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

She didn't. She got 6 million less.

Part of that was she wasn't a good candidate.

Part of that was that voter participation was down.

Part of that was some voters were too racist or misogynist to vote for her. Again, go back to my original point, where I discuss how she lost ground with Asians and Hispanics.

Part of the reason was without Covid, people just didn't see the urgency to vote, especially if they lived in a state which wasn't a swing state.

The truth is Kamala had the same amount of fraudulent votes Joe had, but when the trucks showed up at 3 AM, the Americans were waiting for them and they got turned back. Democrats weren't able to sneak in their fraudulent ballots like in 2020.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I would add two notes:
1) Inflation. Inflation kills governments worldwide.
2) Old incumbent who promised to be transitional and VP candidate. Historically VPs don't do well.

What surprised me was that Trump won the Republican nomination. Then I realized MAGA is not a party, its a movement.

EDIT: Democrats forgot working class issues matter, but even had they not, the winds were against them.

 

[OKTexas]

Cars aren't people.

The question is, is it biology or psychology that is the issue here?

If a man has testicular cancer and has them removed, does he stop being a man?

Or is what makes him a male in his brain?

Scientific studies have proven that the brain structure of transgender people resembles their identified sex more than their biological sex. This is why gender isn't binary, it's often on a spectrum.

So you're arguing it's more of a birth defect than a mental illness? Either case would make it abnormal and something to be medically treated, not normalized.

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[pknopp]

So you're arguing it's more of a birth defect than a mental illness? Either case would make it abnormal and something to be medically treated, not normalized.

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Can you medically fix someone born deaf?

 

[JimH52]

Since 99% of my posts make Republicans Angry, I thought I'd do a post where I antagonize Democrats with hard, cold truths. Because it seems to me most of the Democrat discussion is "We weren't radical enough!"

So here is my list, 11 reasons why Democrats got their asses handed to them in 2024.

1) Joe Biden – completely and utterly screwed his party. It should have been evident to everyone around him that, at 81, he didn’t have the acuity or stamina to wage a campaign against Trump. He maybe never did, but the unique nature of the 2020 election gave him a pass. In 2020, he promised to be a transitional president. A second term never should have been in the cards.

In any event, Biden should have withdrawn after the 2022 midterms, and the Democrats did better than they deserved to because Trump insisted on extreme MAGA candidates for winnable races. A vigorous primary campaign would have tempered the steel of the eventual nominee.


2) Kamala Harris – In one aspect, it’s easy to be sympathetic; she had to hop in and pick up a ball that had been fumbled. That said, she was a poor candidate. She was a weak candidate in 2020 when she dropped out before the primaries, and she did little to distinguish herself as Vice President. But the Democrats were painted into a corner. Passing over her to pick someone more electable would have been seen as an insult to women and minorities. Additionally, there was the issue of who could legally use the money that Biden had raised to that point.

Harris should have done a self-evaluation and realized that she probably wasn’t the best candidate. She didn’t. We got the result we should have expected.

3) Tim Walz- a lousy pick. He brought nothing to the table. Minnesota hasn’t gone Red since 1972. If the Democrats are seriously fighting for MN, they need to rethink their party. Shapiro, Warnock, anyone who could have helped in a Swing state would have been better.

4) The Corporate Media didn’t do its job- The Corporate Media has this weird symbiotic relationship with Trump. They know he’s repulsive, but he’s good for ratings. He’s reality TV incarnate, normalizing lousy behavior because it’s entertaining. Joe Biden could look a bit confused trying to find the exit, and you’d get speculation about his mental acuity. Trump could rant about Haitians eating cats and Arnold Palmer’s….er… attributes, and nope, nothing to see here.

5) Abortion wasn’t the magic bullet – The initial shock of Dobbs probably saved the Democrats from worse results in 2022, but it was a hand Harris overplayed. Most Americans are ambivalent about abortion. They don’t think it should be illegal, but they don’t like it much, either. Making it the centerpiece of your campaign was a bad idea.

6) Taking Asians and Hispanics for granted – This is the untold story of 2024. Trump didn’t improve his numbers with white voters. He lost a percentage point among them. He only slightly improved his standing with black voters. The two big groups that he gained were Hispanics (+14) and Asians (+6), despite the toxic and racist language coming from Trump on Immigration.

Part of the reason was that the Harris team took them for granted, whereas Trump made genuine outreach. The other part of the problem is that immigration is affecting these communities, and muddled messaging didn’t help.

7) Immigration – Immigration has become a significant crisis, which Biden and Harris did not effectively manage. Part of the problem is immigrants figured out the Asylum loophole and abused the heck out of it. The other part of the problem is that Biden did very little to discourage immigration. While they deported more people than Trump did during his first term, they didn’t like to talk about it because they thought it wouldn’t play well with the Hispanic Community.

8) It’s the economy, stupid. The Biden economy was pretty good. Record stock market growth, record job growth, and low unemployment. The fly in the ointment, of course, was high inflation, driven by global commodities, labor shortages, and, yes, the Trillions in Stimulus That both Trump and Biden pumped into the economy to keep it afloat during COVID-19. The problem was, the Democrats did a poor job talking up the good stuff, and really weren't proactive enough on inflation, other than "Just let the fed handle it by putting home prices out of reach".

9) Transgender rights - Failure to Communicate. Democrats let Republicans run the table with this one. Every time the Republicans dragged out some college girl whining how she didn’t get a trophy, the Democrats should have brought out a transgender girl who transphobic people have abused. They didn’t do this, and the GOP got away with dehumanization.

10) Not holding Trump to account for COVID (or anything else!) – It is MIND-BOGGLING to me how Democrats weren’t reminding people at every step about how Trump mismanaged the COVID crisis (and subsequent recession).

11) Israel and Palestine- trying to thread the needle. This is where they should have taken a stand. Instead, they tried to please bonotth sides and ended up pleasing neither one. So now you have these Arab-Americans in Dearborn, MI, who stayed home. How are things better for you now? ,

I think Dems have become the party of extremes to the left. Americans are not extreme either way, as Donald will soon find out.

 

[OKTexas]

Can you medically fix someone born deaf?

Sometimes, but what does that have to do with this topic?

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[pknopp]

Sometimes, but what does that have to do with this topic?

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You seem to think you can just fix things with how people are born. Many times you can not.

 

[OKTexas]

You seem to think you can just fix things with how people are born. Many times you can not.

True, but like I said, you don't have to try to normalize birth defects, they're called defects for a reason, they're abnormal. That's when you teach people to live with it, the vast majority outgrow the thoughts to alter their gender by ages 16-18 as their brains mature. Also many never really thought about it till they were propagandized by some freaks and felt peer pressure.

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[JoeB131]

But yet you support those who refuse to do either and call those who might, far left.

I support people who can get shit done. Commie Bernie hasn't done shit in his lousy life. You can't name one significant bit of legislations he's sponsored in 30+ years in Congress. And when this commie gives up one of his four mansions, then I'll take him seriously when he says "Make the rich pay their fair share."

Not interested in your spin. You are perfectly aware of what I am saying.

I'm aware that you are trying to claim assisting allies who are attacked is an immoral war.

The truth is Kamala had the same amount of fraudulent votes Joe had, but when the trucks showed up at 3 AM, the Americans were waiting for them and they got turned back. Democrats weren't able to sneak in their fraudulent ballots like in 2020.

Wow, all sorts of delusion on this thread.

 

[JoeB131]

True, but like I said, you don't have to try to normalize birth defects, they're called defects for a reason, they're abnormal. That's when you teach people to live with it, the vast majority outgrow the thoughts to alter their gender by ages 16-18 as their brains mature. Also many never really thought about it till they were propagandized by some freaks and felt peer pressure.

Okay, let's look at this statement.

We don't normalize birth defects?

So are you saying the Transgender are defective or they are victims of the "Woke Mind Virus" (the nonsense Gauleiter Musk has been pushing since her daughter transitioned.)

Or maybe some people are just... different.