The Texas lawsuit and the possible end of our republic.

I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.

You saw the exact same thing with Obama worship by the the fucking left, but you didn't see it and you were the one drinking the kool-aid at the time.

You ignore the anger he rode, and the movement he started at your own peril. I know lefties like you would rather destroy anyone opposing you rather than counter them with actual arguments, but that's what we expect from you.

Not even close. Obama had his faults, mainly on the foreign policy side. But at no time was he ever worshiped by 45% of the population. Were there many African Americans that looked up to him? Sure. That's a pretty powerful thing to aspire to if you come from a world where you're always behind the eight ball. When Obama was elected, the mostly white right wing in this country collectively lost their shit. Up springs the Tea Party, the vicious Republican opposition, and eventually, alt-right media with its conspiracy theory laden cancers. The difference between Obama and Trump is that Trump MADE all of his own issues where as most of Obama's issues were MANUFACTURED by his opponents. Big difference.

Compare Obama's response to Trump's election in 2016 to his response to Biden's election this year. Night and day.
The Supreme Court has spoken. The lower courts have spoken. Trump lost. Time to move on. Deal with it.
If you can't, feel free to go outside and scream at the sky. I won't judge.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

#BecauseItsACult

Because Trump lost a free and fair election yet his acolytes have gone ape shit ever since Trump declared he really won. The level of devotion, emotion and delusion we've witnessed from his cult has devolved from support to worship.

All you can do is spew cult cult cult and then dismiss.

Fuck off.
Who knows why you twist your panties into a wad over me pointing out reality?

LOL

"Reality"

Die.
LOLOL

L'chaim, marty!

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I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.

You saw the exact same thing with Obama worship by the the fucking left, but you didn't see it and you were the one drinking the kool-aid at the time.

You ignore the anger he rode, and the movement he started at your own peril. I know lefties like you would rather destroy anyone opposing you rather than counter them with actual arguments, but that's what we expect from you.

Not even close. Obama had his faults, mainly on the foreign policy side. But at no time was he ever worshiped by 45% of the population. Were there many African Americans that looked up to him? Sure. That's a pretty powerful thing to aspire to if you come from a world where you're always behind the eight ball. When Obama was elected, the mostly white right wing in this country collectively lost their shit. Up springs the Tea Party, the vicious Republican opposition, and eventually, alt-right media with its conspiracy theory laden cancers. The difference between Obama and Trump is that Trump MADE all of his own issues where as most of Obama's issues were MANUFACTURED by his opponents. Big difference.

Compare Obama's response to Trump's election in 2016 to his response to Biden's election this year. Night and day.
The Supreme Court has spoken. The lower courts have spoken. Trump lost. Time to move on. Deal with it.
If you can't, feel free to go outside and scream at the sky. I won't judge.

LOL, you actually deny the cult of personality progressives created around Obama? Are you really that fucking dense?

You are a liar.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
LOLOLOLOL

You think anyone cares that y'all will continue bitching and moaning for the next 4 years??

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That's just music to dance to.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.
Trump is a giant failure and counter to what republicans claimed they were for. Fiscally responsible? This goon increased the deficit to a trillion during a strong economy. I won't even get into how bad it is since the pandemic. Pro life? His weak covid response has led us to the most pandemic deaths. A president shouldn't rule through executive order? Trump has had more orders than Obama. Remember when repubs claimed Obama played too much golf? Trump beat him there too. And well the guy cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star so he's no good Christian either. You clowns are a cult following failure.

As usual you ignore all the things he said he would do or try to do, and what he accomplished. You create this construct of absolute evil, then wonder why we think you cheated to get rid of him.
Yeah he did a few little things I didn't care about! Meanwhile he increased the deficit to a trillion dollars during a strong economy!!!! That's a big deal. Oh and leading us to the most covid deaths a big deal too. How about his tariffs that hurt manufacturing? His tax cuts that didn't bring the promised growth and drastically increased deficits? He has been a huge failure.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
LOLOLOLOL

You think anyone cares that y'all will continue bitching and moaning for the next 4 years??

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That's just music to dance to.

Bring it, bitch.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
Trump has made even obama look good. You going to complain now if biden does too many executive orders? Gonna complain now if he increases deficits? What topic do you expect to be taken seriously on? You have thrown out everything. Heck Biden could cheat on his wife with a porn star and you can't say shit now.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.
Trump is a giant failure and counter to what republicans claimed they were for. Fiscally responsible? This goon increased the deficit to a trillion during a strong economy. I won't even get into how bad it is since the pandemic. Pro life? His weak covid response has led us to the most pandemic deaths. A president shouldn't rule through executive order? Trump has had more orders than Obama. Remember when repubs claimed Obama played too much golf? Trump beat him there too. And well the guy cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star so he's no good Christian either. You clowns are a cult following failure.

As usual you ignore all the things he said he would do or try to do, and what he accomplished. You create this construct of absolute evil, then wonder why we think you cheated to get rid of him.
Yeah he did a few little things I didn't care about! Meanwhile he increased the deficit to a trillion dollars during a strong economy!!!! That's a big deal. Oh and leading us to the most covid deaths a big deal too. How about his tariffs that hurt manufacturing? His tax cuts that didn't bring the promised growth and drastically increased deficits? He has been a huge failure.

The dems controlled the house for 2 of the years, and they control the budget.

So are you saying dems are going to reduce the debt and the deficit?

Please show me how Trump is directly responsible for COVID deaths but Dem governors are not.

the tarriffs were designed for a long term win against China, I guess you want China to win the trade war.

His tax cuts helped me and plenty like me.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
Trump has made even obama look good. You going to complain now if biden does too many executive orders? Gonna complain now if he increases deficits? What topic do you expect to be taken seriously on? You have thrown out everything. Heck Biden could cheat on his wife with a porn star and you can't say shit now.

I am going to surely complain about the content of most of Biden's EO's because I will probably disagree with them politically.

Why this fixation on the deficit when neither side has done anything to try to fix the systemic problem?
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.
Trump is a giant failure and counter to what republicans claimed they were for. Fiscally responsible? This goon increased the deficit to a trillion during a strong economy. I won't even get into how bad it is since the pandemic. Pro life? His weak covid response has led us to the most pandemic deaths. A president shouldn't rule through executive order? Trump has had more orders than Obama. Remember when repubs claimed Obama played too much golf? Trump beat him there too. And well the guy cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star so he's no good Christian either. You clowns are a cult following failure.

As usual you ignore all the things he said he would do or try to do, and what he accomplished. You create this construct of absolute evil, then wonder why we think you cheated to get rid of him.
Yeah he did a few little things I didn't care about! Meanwhile he increased the deficit to a trillion dollars during a strong economy!!!! That's a big deal. Oh and leading us to the most covid deaths a big deal too. How about his tariffs that hurt manufacturing? His tax cuts that didn't bring the promised growth and drastically increased deficits? He has been a huge failure.

The dems controlled the house for 2 of the years, and they control the budget.

So are you saying dems are going to reduce the debt and the deficit?

Please show me how Trump is directly responsible for COVID deaths but Dem governors are not.

the tarriffs were designed for a long term win against China, I guess you want China to win the trade war.

His tax cuts helped me and plenty like me.
Yes and trump policy created the deficit mess. What it dem policy that increased military spending drastically? Was the irresponsible tax cut dem policy? Your excuses are pathetic like turmps.

Obama deficits declined after he fixed the bush disaster. Trump inherited a strong economy and increased deficits. It's clear who has the better record. Clinton balanced the budget and Bush drastically increased deficits....

We have the most covid deaths. Trump left a international pandemic to the states, giant failed policy.

If you think we are winning a trade war you don't understand economics. Trump hurt manufacturing and we kept buying from china. All he did was tax us with tariffs.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
Trump has made even obama look good. You going to complain now if biden does too many executive orders? Gonna complain now if he increases deficits? What topic do you expect to be taken seriously on? You have thrown out everything. Heck Biden could cheat on his wife with a porn star and you can't say shit now.

I am going to surely complain about the content of most of Biden's EO's because I will probably disagree with them politically.

Why this fixation on the deficit when neither side has done anything to try to fix the systemic problem?
Because it's important. And well I see dems have it more under control. Again, balanced budget under Clinton, bush f'd that up. Obama fixed Bushes mess and deficits were trending down. Trump inherits strong economy and his policy drastically increased deficits. Now Biden has to fix the trump mess.
 
I don't see what leftists have to complain about with the Trump lawsuits to overturn the election.

Because they were wall-to-wall legal and had support from many, many states attorneys and GOP senators. It was all done in courtrooms, and the verdicts accepted. What is your PROBLEM??

You've got no kick at all --- not in these United States where during the reign of "that man" FDR, Marine General Smedley D. Butler was approached by a number of big-money industrialists and asked to figurehead a military takeover of the country. And if Henry Ford wasn't one of them (they successfully concealed their identity) I'll eat my hat. You can look it up on Wikipedia. Butler did not agree and testified about this in Congress. Now THAT is a scandal, and a near thing. Until you've got a military takeover, you don't have real problems with the Republic.
 
I don't see what leftists have to complain about with the Trump lawsuits to overturn the election.

Because they were wall-to-wall legal and had support from many, many states attorneys and GOP senators. It was all done in courtrooms, and the verdicts accepted. What is your PROBLEM??

You've got no kick at all --- not in these United States where during the reign of "that man" FDR, Marine General Smedley D. Butler was approached by a number of big-money industrialists and asked to figurehead a military takeover of the country. And if Henry Ford wasn't one of them (they successfully concealed their identity) I'll eat my hat. You can look it up on Wikipedia. Butler did not agree and testified about this in Congress. Now THAT is a scandal, and a near thing. Until you've got a military takeover, you don't have real problems with the Republic.
They have all been thrown out because they are garbage.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
:clap2:

If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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They've lost their freakin' minds.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.
Trump is a giant failure and counter to what republicans claimed they were for. Fiscally responsible? This goon increased the deficit to a trillion during a strong economy. I won't even get into how bad it is since the pandemic. Pro life? His weak covid response has led us to the most pandemic deaths. A president shouldn't rule through executive order? Trump has had more orders than Obama. Remember when repubs claimed Obama played too much golf? Trump beat him there too. And well the guy cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star so he's no good Christian either. You clowns are a cult following failure.

As usual you ignore all the things he said he would do or try to do, and what he accomplished. You create this construct of absolute evil, then wonder why we think you cheated to get rid of him.
Yeah he did a few little things I didn't care about! Meanwhile he increased the deficit to a trillion dollars during a strong economy!!!! That's a big deal. Oh and leading us to the most covid deaths a big deal too. How about his tariffs that hurt manufacturing? His tax cuts that didn't bring the promised growth and drastically increased deficits? He has been a huge failure.

The dems controlled the house for 2 of the years, and they control the budget.

So are you saying dems are going to reduce the debt and the deficit?

Please show me how Trump is directly responsible for COVID deaths but Dem governors are not.

the tarriffs were designed for a long term win against China, I guess you want China to win the trade war.

His tax cuts helped me and plenty like me.
Yes and trump policy created the deficit mess. What it dem policy that increased military spending drastically? Was the irresponsible tax cut dem policy? Your excuses are pathetic like turmps.

Obama deficits declined after he fixed the bush disaster. Trump inherited a strong economy and increased deficits. It's clear who has the better record. Clinton balanced the budget and Bush drastically increased deficits....

We have the most covid deaths. Trump left a international pandemic to the states, giant failed policy.

If you think we are winning a trade war you don't understand economics. Trump hurt manufacturing and we kept buying from china. All he did was tax us with tariffs.

Idiot, the deficit is an issue going back decades, and you want to pin it on Trump for political points?

China probably has the most COVID deaths, they can just lie about it, and you are OK with that.

Europe is having a major surge, weren't they the example you always pointed out?

Don't worry, Biden will sell us out to China like you want.
 
If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.
Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
Holy crap. Wow, look at you.

Did Trumpism do this to you, or have you always been like this?

Lying sacks of shit do this to me, calling you out is now my priority.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

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No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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Payback will be a bitch, just fucking wait. Now you get to play defense for every idiotic thing Dems do the next two years.
Trump has made even obama look good. You going to complain now if biden does too many executive orders? Gonna complain now if he increases deficits? What topic do you expect to be taken seriously on? You have thrown out everything. Heck Biden could cheat on his wife with a porn star and you can't say shit now.

I am going to surely complain about the content of most of Biden's EO's because I will probably disagree with them politically.

Why this fixation on the deficit when neither side has done anything to try to fix the systemic problem?
Because it's important. And well I see dems have it more under control. Again, balanced budget under Clinton, bush f'd that up. Obama fixed Bushes mess and deficits were trending down. Trump inherits strong economy and his policy drastically increased deficits. Now Biden has to fix the trump mess.

LOL, Dems raise taxes and raise spending, they increase government programs increasing government size and thus cost.

Then they think they can tax their way into a new cycle.
 
I'm not going to bothering reading the thread ... looks like the same vomit from yesterday ...

Anyone dared comment on the merits of the case yet? ... the OP is crazy wrong ... if we let Texas dictate how Michigan interprets their own laws ... pfffft ... worst, allow Texas to go straight to SCOTUS ... well ... then ... er ...

What's to stop California from telling Mississippi how to run their education system? ... and going straight to SCOTUS with the complaint ...

No ... I didn';t think anyone wanted to discuss this matter honestly ... sorry for interrupting ...

This is what annoys me the worst. I know this is a Hail Mary and it has no chance of overturning the election, but the fact that Texas even had a path to take this directly to the SC with 1) no successful lower court rulings, and 2) Able to file a lawsuit that essentially is looking to interfere in another states' affairs....is a complete travesty.
So you have no idea about how multiple state issues are resolved. It goes directly to the supreme court. Always. Always. Always.
You are not worthy of adding to this conversation as you are naive as to how a republic works.

FYI....we are a republic.
I laugh at those that attempt to debate and say things that are not factually correct. Its like "Rachel Maddow said this so I can regirgitate it
There IS no issue, snowflake. That's the point. This is frivolous. Texas has NO standing to question another state's process. They suffered no harm.
So do me a favor and stow your upturned nose. I don't give a shit.
Oh. I see. A state voted legally, and their electoral college votes are offset by a state that votes against the constitution. Got it.
Good for you.

So what you're really trying to say here is that state's DON'T have the right to make their own laws. Again, selective interpretation. So much for that yellowed scrap of paper.
Texas wasn't harmed therefore has no standing to bring the suit...unless you are postulating that because Texas voted for Trump, these other states have to as well.
Uh...excuse me. I never said that. States get to make their own laws. Always. Governors and judges do not have the right to change those laws according to the constitution. Only LAW MAKERS do.
Know your stuff before you debate.


No chance
This really isn't going to happen.

You guys really need to calm down. Go out and get some air. Spend the day in a forest with no cell phone.

Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Yep, just let the cheating happen, after all Progs know what's best for us because we don't.
Cheating?
All 50 governors have certified their election results.
Yes. All states certified the results. I expected that. The question is, should states have their electoral college numbers offset by states that had non law makers change their election laws? And 18 governors and AG's are protecting their state citizens from having their vote offset.
Analogy.....

During a football game, there were 3 calls turned over by instant replay review. The last play of the game, where a player scored the winning touchdown, there was question whether or not his foot stepped on the sideline. It was an SEC team vs. an ACC game. You are an ACC fan. It was an SEC player that scored the apparent touchdown. The head ref decides to amend the rules and claims "we will not review the last play of a game"......would you not question what the hell and be upset about the mid game change of rules??

Now...that is a lousy football game. What about the election of a President of the United States?

They literally do not care

They are psychopaths -
I bet they would care if the tables were turned.
The Hillary supporters got the fuck over it, like adults
Anyone who "get's over" a swindled election is a scumbag.
What do we call those who whine about losing and then pretend that it was a swindled election with no evidence.....(see all those court losses). A sucker? Seditious? A cultist?
we call them Hillary Clinton
You mean the Presidential Candidate that conceded on Election Night, 2016?
yup. She conceded and spent the next three years blaming us deplorables for a stolen election.
But you run with that attitude. It fits you well.

Also she didn't concede until the following morning.

But she still conceded the next morning...which I don't think Trump has done yet.
Obama offered Trump a smooth transition. Trump so far has offered Biden next to squat.
I could care less what Clinton parroted after Trump was inaugurated. That's your hangup. Not mine.

Both of you need to get some new talking points.

LOL. Obama offered the front of a smooth transition and everyone knew that all the civil servants were going to do everything they could to gum the gears, i.e. the resistance.

It's easy to play nice when you know your inside people are going to do your dirty work for you.

What a naïve moron you are.

Which they didn't. So nice try at bullshit.
What happened after the inauguration was Trump's fault.
Note the date

View attachment 428214
No it wasn't. The nonstop war on Trump happened because the fake news media hated him. The theory that Trump did anything to deserve that treatment is beyond absurd.. How do you people walk around in public?
That's
No. Trump made all of his own issues. The media just reports what he does.
Place the blame where the blame lies. At the foot of the former reality TV star who had no business
descending that golden escalator.
Utter horseshit. How do you walk around in public when you lie so egregiously? The Dims in the media and the Dims scum in Congress manuractured all the issues they harangued Trump about.

You invent scandals and then you lie about who created them. Dims are scum. It's hard to be any worse of a human being than a Dim.

That's your narrative..or at least the narrative right wing media constantly spins. Donald Trump is an incompetent boob. He has been for decades. The difference is while he was a private citizen, we could just laugh him off. Even backing into the Presidency and then making his own problems day after day for three years we could get mad at, but laugh off. Because the economy was good and there was nothing going on in the world that required our immediate attention. Then, the first time his Presidency is tested, he coughs up a furball and fails spectacularly. 300K dead and counting. 6.7% unemployment, thousands of businesses shuttered, millions of people out of work, spreading his dysfunction to Republicans in the House and Senate. He then proceeds to lose the election and embark on a temper tantrum to overturn an election..an attempt not seen in our republic's history.

And you idiots want to see another four years of this clown show.
He lost. He's done. Deal with it.

Considering the biggest shutdowns were by Dem governors, how do you blame Trump for the economic issues?

Because leadership and coordination starts at the top. The White House. Specifically, the President's ability to mobilize federal agencies and allocate emergency dollars with the stroke of his pen. But, Trump does nothing. If you don't believe me, just listen to the Woodward tapes. That's the problem with having a former reality TV star who not only has no interest in the job, but also has no idea of how government is supposed to work or how policy is made. His incompetence and inaction in responding to virus for over two months cause the spiral that led to the economic carnage. In the absence of any leadership from Trump or his team, governors, mayors, and business leaders had to step in (and are still having to) and make the tough decisions.

And I'd pay attention to current events.. The red states are the ones with major issues at the moment.

The federal government did plenty, you just ignore it because it helps your narrative.

Europe is having major issues at the moment, did Trump cause that as well?

you are such a fucking lying hack.

Europe has the same issues we have. Large sections of the population that 1) Are burnt out and don't care, 2) Think the virus is a hoax and don't care, 3) Don't care one way or the other....individual liberty at the expense of the common good.
Won't wear a mask, won't socially distance, won't not gather in large groups. I don't care. That's the reason for the virus spike.

But they don't have Trump, and have far more of the authoritarian mindset and government mechanisms to make people comply.

So how is everything here Trump's fault but the same issues are happening worldwide?

Again, it comes down to messaging. But Europe's spikes are nowhere near ours.
Trump took no action, dragged his feet, put forth miracle cures, demeaned the health professionals and scientists....and lost the election.
The electors meet today to certify the election. Republicans can put on whatever show they want on January 6th but Democrats control the House. It's just show.

More spin, zero substance other than "I hate Trump, fuh fuh fuh, stick a pogo stick in my ass"

You have no actual answer, so you deflect like the coward you are.

Then feel free to continue to worship at the altar of Trump. He's got about 37 days left to shit all over the furniture and file silly-assed lawsuits that will be dismissed out of hand. After that, I don't care what he does. In all likelyhood, he'll be dodging legal issues the remainder of his life....Oh Donny??...oh you won't see him no more! :auiqs.jpg:

Why do you equate support with worship? Lefties are the kings of the cult of personality, and add in group worship to boot.

The thing is you won't get rid of us so easily, although fascists like you will surely try.

It's worship. It's a cult. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. A whole bloc of ignorant, poorly educated, low information, alt-right media dwelling people who have seemingly abandoned reason, common sense, normalcy, compassion, and caring in the last five years. All in fealty to an abject failure of a former reality TV game show host who backed into the Presidency due to a once in a lifetime confluence of events. This man has been nothing but a cancer, yet you people think he's the second coming of Christ.

Trump lost. Lost the popular vote. Lost the Electoral College vote. Safe Harbor Day is passed. Electors are meeting to certify today. It's over.
I don't expect the hardcore Trump supporters to go away. But I do expect a lot of them to move on..just like the rest of us have been doing since November 7th.
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If you are going to cheer a lying sack of shit like Jack, you will be treated like a lying sack of shit like Jack.

Die, die slowly die needlessly, die alone.
LOL

No one's going to die, con, just because you're pissed. But now we get to watch you loony rightness bitch & moan about how the left stole this election for the rest of our lives. I would have been happy with nothing more than Biden winning; but you idiots have made this the best election evah with your incessant whining and massive group meltdown. Thanks!
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They've lost their freakin' minds.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
 

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