The Temple Mount Myth Revealed

[Phoenall]

no they can't find any historical evidence of David or Solomon,

Show me historical evidence of anyone from 3,500 years ago. Find me evidence Mohammed existed.
Oh yeah, written historical evidence just as it is with David and Solomon.

Not an archeologist around who denies the existence of David and Solomon.

Or proves it. We have no proof of anything about David or Solomon.

Even though the evidence has been provided you still deny a fundemental part of the Christian religion. And you call yourself a Christian ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Penelope is as much a Christian as Bin Laden was.

Christians don't believe on temple myth, for them temple of the bible is in heaven.

BULLSHIT and you know it. The Christians believe that there was a Temple and it is mentioned more than once in the Bible. It is where Jesus overturned the money lenders tables

 

[Phoenall]

Let me expand on that someone cheeky post above by saying first, that I in no way support the destruction of Al-Aqsa nor the Dome of the Rock. I am against, in principle, the idea that destroying other people's holy places is....well....kosher. Let me also be clear that I am also very much against usurping other people's holy places. And the Temple Mount IS a Jewish holy place and was a Jewish holy place thousands of years before a succession of invaders came.

But Freeman's post makes "morally right" a number of clear wrongs.

*that reducing a holy place to rubble makes the place "available" for anyone walking by to take
*that if people are prevented from utilizing a holy place, it makes that place "available" for anyone walking by
*that lack of knowledge about the holiness of a place, renders that place not holy
*that once you are made aware of your trespass, you bear no responsibility for correcting it

You're probably referring to my cheeky post about demolition of the abominations on the Temple Mount. No way do they belong there. Al Aqsa was built in 705 CE. Mohammed made his Night Journey in 621 CE and died in 632 CE. He either didn't make the trip or else he was a time traveler. I don't believe one bit of that fairy tale.

Al Aqsa is so important to Muslims they don't even mention it in their Koran.

You are ignorant!, this is a verse:

"Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Haram Mosque to al- Aqsa Mosque, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing."- Koran

Sorry but that is the mosque that is on the road outside of Medina as the one in Jerusalem was not built till at least 50 years after his journey.

 

[Phoenall]

Wailing at the wrong wall?

According to one person and with no backing from anyone else

 

[Penelope]

Or proves it. We have no proof of anything about David or Solomon.

Even though the evidence has been provided you still deny a fundemental part of the Christian religion. And you call yourself a Christian ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Can anything good come out of Galilee? Jesus was said to come from Galilee

Who were the "Galileans" in the Days of Jesus? | Travelujah

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

 

[Shusha]

Have you noticed that every muslim holy place was originally Jewish, even the mosque in Mecca was Jewish and was Abrahams last resting place

Of course. Islam can't exist without usurping Judaism.

 

[Penelope]

Let me expand on that someone cheeky post above by saying first, that I in no way support the destruction of Al-Aqsa nor the Dome of the Rock. I am against, in principle, the idea that destroying other people's holy places is....well....kosher. Let me also be clear that I am also very much against usurping other people's holy places. And the Temple Mount IS a Jewish holy place and was a Jewish holy place thousands of years before a succession of invaders came.

But Freeman's post makes "morally right" a number of clear wrongs.

*that reducing a holy place to rubble makes the place "available" for anyone walking by to take
*that if people are prevented from utilizing a holy place, it makes that place "available" for anyone walking by
*that lack of knowledge about the holiness of a place, renders that place not holy
*that once you are made aware of your trespass, you bear no responsibility for correcting it

You're probably referring to my cheeky post about demolition of the abominations on the Temple Mount. No way do they belong there. Al Aqsa was built in 705 CE. Mohammed made his Night Journey in 621 CE and died in 632 CE. He either didn't make the trip or else he was a time traveler. I don't believe one bit of that fairy tale.

Al Aqsa is so important to Muslims they don't even mention it in their Koran.

Or even face it while praying on the Temple Mount itself.

Have you noticed that every muslim holy place was originally Jewish, even the mosque in Mecca was Jewish and was Abrahams last resting place

Or maybe it was all Muslim.

 

[Phoenall]

Even though the evidence has been provided you still deny a fundemental part of the Christian religion. And you call yourself a Christian ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Can anything good come out of Galilee? Jesus was said to come from Galilee

Who were the "Galileans" in the Days of Jesus? | Travelujah

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

I know the Torah and the koran as well, which is why I post the parts of the koran that call on muslims to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS "

I follow the recent scientific findings that say the translation was wrong and that virgin in this context meant an engaged woman not yet formally married.

He was a Jew as the Bible make clear, and the historical records of the Romans also make clear. Once again you LIE about what the bible says as you interpret as only a muslim would. You need to read the whole chapter for the context, not the single verse as you do. He was talking about a very small group of Jews when he said this, the ones you rave over today.

Jesus was the name given by the early Christians as his true name was Joseph after his father.

DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR IMAM TELLS YOU

 

[Phoenall]

Let me expand on that someone cheeky post above by saying first, that I in no way support the destruction of Al-Aqsa nor the Dome of the Rock. I am against, in principle, the idea that destroying other people's holy places is....well....kosher. Let me also be clear that I am also very much against usurping other people's holy places. And the Temple Mount IS a Jewish holy place and was a Jewish holy place thousands of years before a succession of invaders came.

But Freeman's post makes "morally right" a number of clear wrongs.

*that reducing a holy place to rubble makes the place "available" for anyone walking by to take
*that if people are prevented from utilizing a holy place, it makes that place "available" for anyone walking by
*that lack of knowledge about the holiness of a place, renders that place not holy
*that once you are made aware of your trespass, you bear no responsibility for correcting it

You're probably referring to my cheeky post about demolition of the abominations on the Temple Mount. No way do they belong there. Al Aqsa was built in 705 CE. Mohammed made his Night Journey in 621 CE and died in 632 CE. He either didn't make the trip or else he was a time traveler. I don't believe one bit of that fairy tale.

Al Aqsa is so important to Muslims they don't even mention it in their Koran.

Or even face it while praying on the Temple Mount itself.

Have you noticed that every muslim holy place was originally Jewish, even the mosque in Mecca was Jewish and was Abrahams last resting place

Or maybe it was all Muslim.

 

[Shusha]

When muslims enter Jerusalem jews were minority, it was small mount village and the place of Alqsa mosque was an empty area. They built the mosque.

So, question for you. If the Al-Aqsa mosque is destroyed by invaders and made an "empty area", how many years do the invaders have to wait to build another religious structure there? You know, before it can be claimed to belong to the invaders?

Have you proofs that a temple was built there?

Totally avoiding my question. If Al-Aqsa and the Dome are destroyed and the ground is made "empty" is another religious faith permitted to take over that empty ground? Yes or no? Why or why not?

 

[Phoenall]

That would be impossible as islam was not invented until 625 C.E. and the many Jewish holy places existed 2000 years prior to this. Even the koran says this is so, and that Israel ( palestine ) belongs to the Jews.

 

[Penelope]

Instead of the OT being historical, they are creating history from it.

 

[GHook93]

There is a lot of contradictions about the supposed Mount Temple, when Maimonide visited Jerusalem he proposed that a temple in the city will unite the prayer of jews and this temple shouldn't built by humans but will come from heaven.

Concerning the place, some rabbis says that it's below the actual Alaqsa Mosque, others says it's above but other rabbis confirm that it's not in that place but near Jerusalem or in Nablus mount.

Professor in Tel Aviv university and Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues confirm that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.
Israel Finkelstein states:

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never

What kind of BS are you trying to push? What myths? I've never heard such gobbletygook.

Just confirmation from israelis archeologist that this temple is a myth in history.

The Temple seems more realistic than a flying horse, which is the basis of the Muslims' claim to Jerusalem.

You are dealing with Freeman! One of the biggest douche bags on this board. He pushes baseless propaganda as the truth.

 

[Freeman]

Can anything good come out of Galilee? Jesus was said to come from Galilee

Who were the "Galileans" in the Days of Jesus? | Travelujah

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

I know the Torah and the koran as well, which is why I post the parts of the koran that call on muslims to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS "

Where do you find such verses?

According to your bible (Genesis) the universe is just over 6000 years old and the temple is about 4000 year old!

 

[Freeman]

Let me expand on that someone cheeky post above by saying first, that I in no way support the destruction of Al-Aqsa nor the Dome of the Rock. I am against, in principle, the idea that destroying other people's holy places is....well....kosher. Let me also be clear that I am also very much against usurping other people's holy places. And the Temple Mount IS a Jewish holy place and was a Jewish holy place thousands of years before a succession of invaders came.

But Freeman's post makes "morally right" a number of clear wrongs.

*that reducing a holy place to rubble makes the place "available" for anyone walking by to take
*that if people are prevented from utilizing a holy place, it makes that place "available" for anyone walking by
*that lack of knowledge about the holiness of a place, renders that place not holy
*that once you are made aware of your trespass, you bear no responsibility for correcting it

You're probably referring to my cheeky post about demolition of the abominations on the Temple Mount. No way do they belong there. Al Aqsa was built in 705 CE. Mohammed made his Night Journey in 621 CE and died in 632 CE. He either didn't make the trip or else he was a time traveler. I don't believe one bit of that fairy tale.

Al Aqsa is so important to Muslims they don't even mention it in their Koran.

You are ignorant!, this is a verse:

"Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Haram Mosque to al- Aqsa Mosque, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing."- Koran

Sorry but that is the mosque that is on the road outside of Medina as the one in Jerusalem was not built till at least 50 years after his journey.

Ignorant, mosque didn't mean building it means place of prayer.

 

[Freeman]

 

[Penelope]

Can anything good come out of Galilee? Jesus was said to come from Galilee

Who were the "Galileans" in the Days of Jesus? | Travelujah

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

I know the Torah and the koran as well, which is why I post the parts of the koran that call on muslims to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS "

I follow the recent scientific findings that say the translation was wrong and that virgin in this context meant an engaged woman not yet formally married.

He was a Jew as the Bible make clear, and the historical records of the Romans also make clear. Once again you LIE about what the bible says as you interpret as only a muslim would. You need to read the whole chapter for the context, not the single verse as you do. He was talking about a very small group of Jews when he said this, the ones you rave over today.

Jesus was the name given by the early Christians as his true name was Joseph after his father.

DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR IMAM TELLS YOU

The man from Galilee was most likely not a jew.

 

[Penelope]

Can anything good come out of Galilee? Jesus was said to come from Galilee

Who were the "Galileans" in the Days of Jesus? | Travelujah

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

I know the Torah and the koran as well, which is why I post the parts of the koran that call on muslims to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS "

I follow the recent scientific findings that say the translation was wrong and that virgin in this context meant an engaged woman not yet formally married.

He was a Jew as the Bible make clear, and the historical records of the Romans also make clear. Once again you LIE about what the bible says as you interpret as only a muslim would. You need to read the whole chapter for the context, not the single verse as you do. He was talking about a very small group of Jews when he said this, the ones you rave over today.

Jesus was the name given by the early Christians as his true name was Joseph after his father.

DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR IMAM TELLS YOU

Taken out of context. There is nothing so sick as the OT, the Quran does not compare. Jesus had a lot in common with Joseph but he was not Joseph nor was his name. The bible does not make clear he was a Judean, actually he was not.

 

[Hossfly]

Yep the Jewish teacher who wandered around preaching the laws of Judaism. Died in Masada when the Romans eventually over ran the hill fortress

You didn't read the link did you.

And you dont read the Bible enough to know that it spells out that Jesus was a Jew and a Rabbi. He was not what you call a Christian as they did not exist until 200 years after his death.


But it seems that you didnt either as it plainly says
"In the time of our Lord, Galilee embraced more than one-third of Western Palestine, extending "from Dan on the north, at the base of Mount Hermon, to the ridges of Carmel and Gilboa on the south, and from the Jordan valley on the east away across the splendid plains of Jezreel and Acre to the shores of the Mediterranean on the west." "

The problem can be traced back to historical developments in Ancient Israel, long before the time of Jesus. Galilee was settled by the tribes of Zebulon, Naphtali, Issachar and Asher. The region later belonged to David's kingdom and then to the northern nation of Israel.


So even your link says that King David existed

I believe the historical evidence more than the bible. Those from Galilee were not considered the same as those from Judea, also I do not believe in the virgin birth. You sound like you might know the bible but nothing else.

If Jesus was a jew, which I highly doubt , shows you how the jews , who were not called jews at that time, but Judeans, had no problem killing their own, but Jesus according to the Bible thought their father was of the devil.

Judeans had 2 choices, pick Jesus the peaceful Annointed one of God, or Jesus Barabbas, (son of the father) a zealot revolutionary, and they chose Jesus the zealot, so Rome said if you want a fight , we shall fight. There were many civil wars since the Maccabees.

I know the Torah and the koran as well, which is why I post the parts of the koran that call on muslims to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS "

I follow the recent scientific findings that say the translation was wrong and that virgin in this context meant an engaged woman not yet formally married.

He was a Jew as the Bible make clear, and the historical records of the Romans also make clear. Once again you LIE about what the bible says as you interpret as only a muslim would. You need to read the whole chapter for the context, not the single verse as you do. He was talking about a very small group of Jews when he said this, the ones you rave over today.

Jesus was the name given by the early Christians as his true name was Joseph after his father.

DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOUR IMAM TELLS YOU

The man from Galilee was most likely not a jew.

It's possible but not probable. Or he could have been a Lithuanian chicken thief.

 

[theliq]

Al Aqsa is so important to Muslims they don't even mention it in their Koran.

Or even face it while praying on the Temple Mount itself.

Have you noticed that every muslim holy place was originally Jewish, even the mosque in Mecca was Jewish and was Abrahams last resting place

Well Jews were derived from Arabs in the first place Pheo

Just for Pheo www.peacewithrealism.org/jewarab2.htm steve

Now why would I believe a LYING ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA SITE over the truth. What next that the aborigines were originally arab's before they migrated there in the boats built by mo'mad

How silly of you Pheo,Australian Aboriginals have been here for over 40,000 years but keep up the Zionist Propaganda,you'll be telling me next that they were the first Zionists .LOL..steve

 

[Phoenall]

Instead of the OT being historical, they are creating history from it.

Just because you have a pathological hatred for the Jews does not mean they never existed. Your religion is based on the history in the Torah, from which the O.T. is derived. By being so hatefull to disrespect your own religion and the people who you see as saints are denied.