State exactly what he did that was in error, and name the individual that he harmed and in what way that individual was materially harmed: in other words, beyond hurt feeling, such as you evinced.
For the record, numerous examples have been cited in this thread and links given to instances of people who lost their jobs or were suspended as soon as they came under investigation by McCarthy. In many of these cases the person under investigation exercised his or her right to 5th Ammendment protection only for McCarthy to very viciously go after the person publicly.
I'm curious. If someone makes an unproven accusation against you, and you are suspeneded for a period of 3-4 years, or worse, you lose your job, wouldn't you say you've been harmed?
You might have a case if McCarthy had limited himself to employees requiring security clearance. You might even have a case (albeit shaky) if McCarthy had limited himself to just federal employees. However, he did not. And people did lose jobs, incomes, and respect. People were dragged through the mud because they had a dissenting opinion from McCarthy.
That's the truly heinous crime here. McCarthyism represented an effort to criminalize dissent, and where it could not, it tried to make dissent Un-American. That's why people attack McCarthy. I could give a damn about whether he was a Republican or Democrat. Anyone who acted as McCarthy did would come under attack by
Conservatives who value limited government and
Liberals who value civil rights.
Just curious, which of Ms. Coulter's best sellers have you read?
Or do you take the MSNBC approach to knowledge?
Her books? None. I read her column as part of an ongoing effort to seek out differing opinion. From time to time she has very good and salient points. The problem is that she follows up a well reasoned arguement by an incredibly shrill headline seeking remark on a regular basis. She enjoys attention, and actively seeks it out.
Weak. Combined with this quote:
"...pseudo-intellectual, babble..."
I understand why you might believe that. Best of luck with your education.
And this one:
"...you leave us with only one question..."
Only three kinds of folks can use 'we' when referring to himself:
1. Royalty
2. Editors of newspapers
3. Someone with a tapeworm
Best wishes for an improvement in your health.
You can't have any illusions about how your'e coming off in this thread.
You've created a ficticious strawman in your head about McCarthy's attackers. I hope that should you be able to exorcize it, your attitude might improve.
First, a subject near to my heart, and revealing of yours: Ann Coulter
Thank you for the honest response, that you have read none of her best sellers. This explains your attitude toward her.
And your objections? Amazingly similar to your complaint about the Senator:"The problem is that she follows up a well reasoned arguement by an incredibly shrill headline seeking remark on a regular basis. She enjoys attention, and actively seeks it out."
So, you admit that the problem for you is not what one says, merely how one says it.
It smacks of cowardice. I appologize in advance if this does not apply.
My friend, allow me to hold the mirror up to you:
Volumes of verbiage, short on documentation.
You have yet to show
1. Knowledge of the subject.
2. Individuals who were innocent of the charges, yet punished.
3. "suspeneded for a period of 3-4 years" and not compensated, as Val Lorwin was.
On the contrary, Communist agents were held up as heros and celebrities by folks like you.
Case in point:
Alger Hiss- . Proven guilty, jailed for 44 months for perjury (the statute of limitations had run out on espionage), Alger Hiss, traitorous agent of Soviet espionage, the American left views Hiss as a hero.
After leaving prison, he spoke at Princeton and was given a standing ovation. Bard College actually has the Alger Hiss Chair of Social Studies (
Lawrence Helm's Blog: The Alger Hiss Chair at Bard College)
In 1972, Massachusetts readmitted him to the bar. Liberals would never turn their backs on a man who spied for Stalin against America.
Even Lattimore was allowed to keep his job.
Now, re-read this post carefully and you will see what others have seen: I document my posts, support statements that I make.
And you? Bloviate. Wring your hands, and tell how incensed you are over...what? The same statement over and over, in different words. 'McCarthy- bad man!"
How very penetrating!
I've made the same request over and over: name the suffering innocent individuals harmed by Senator McCarthy.
When I shoot down each of your efforts with documentation, you blithely amble off as though I never said it.
Therefore you have annointed yourself as one of those message board posters who, whether you know anything or not, merely wishes to post. And, clearly, you know nothing about this subject.
Now, there is nothing wrong with that, and without folks like you, my thread would be very, very short. So thanks: this is valuable information that needed to be gotten out.
Keep up the good work.