Yes, that was partially my point, but we atheists obviously have no "filthy God" by definition. My main point was that just having any old "evidence" is never sufficient. Far beyond "what can be asserted without evidence", much of what gets asserted with purported evidence "can be dismissed without evidence." The phrase does a disservice to logic by clearly neglecting that large and fundamental portion.
Still makes sense to me. But they actually appear to be retreating from that conclusion now,.. all of a sudden,.. among others. It's very weird. I'd swear the consensus believed the Universe was centered (iow, the "Bang" had an origin, even accounting for inflation) near some distant galaxy or other until very recently, despite the endless expanding balloon yabber. All talk of an edge or outer limit to the Universe.. now gone, kaput, nada. I gather that deeper consideration of black holes has changed things dramatically. Just waiting for more shoes to drop, I guess.. but not holding my breath.
Uh...no. No idea what you are talking about, there.
Gee, how I don't wonder what that "quantum fluid" was previously called.. nearly universally.. all the way back to the ancient Greeks!
There is no God and never has been. I challenge anyone on earth to provide irrefutable evidence that can be independently verified.
Posting pictures which evolved as the planet evolved is not proof of any God.
You do not know God exists. That's a lie. You have never seen or interacted with any God. You might think you have because you believe in God but you have no evidence at all.
Before you bombard me with your silly bible quotes and psalms etc, I am very good at this debate.
I do nt care what you believe but don't force your lies and myths on me and spray your bullshit around as if it is fact.
And you cannot know without a doubt that gods don't exist.
In fact there's a hell of a lot more of what we don't know than what we do.
Again, if you have that proof, present it now or stop spreading lies and myths as fact.
If religion had proof they would produce it immediately purely to destroy atheism.
You have nothing and never will so until you prove me wrong, I'll say it again, there is no God and never has been ..
Why don't you read what I said again.
I don't know with any certainty that gods exist or don't exist but lack of evidence in itself is not proof of anything. The creationists say lack of scientific evidence is proof of god. Rabid atheists say lack of evidence is proof that gods don't exist.
You can't even see that you are using the same flawed logic the people you criticize are using
Personally I don't think it matters if gods exist or not
There is no flaw in my logic and you as a godbotherer can not prove it.
How can a lack of evidence be proof of anything? That's absurd.
What can be asserted without evidence can dismissed without evidence.
Youre problem is you do believe and cannot tolerate it being challenged.
So out come these whacky scenarios attempting to prove it.
You don't start writing checks for a thousand dollars without checking the money is there. Why would you base your whole life on something you have no evidence of.
It's ridiculous.
Once again you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension. You are so biased that you can't actually read and understand what other people write.
I don't care if gods exist or not. I do not worship any gods. Saying that I cannot without any certainty say whether gods exist or not in no way implies that I worship gods or that I believe they exist.
But your insistence that lack of evidence is proof of something is flawed logic.
You can call it whatever you want., on a message board. Call it Fred. PS: those people you mentioned had no fucking idea whatsoever what they were talking about, so maybe refrain from deferring to them ever again.
Yeah, yeah, WTF ever, Foghorn Leghorn. Happy Father's Day and Summer Solstice!
He mistook your sarcasm.
Any Agnostic worth his salt would never conclude anything is "false" with regard to the source of life. Whatever cannot be proven is "unproven" and cannot be considered "true". And now the bible bashers will get indignant over it and claim that non-belief is the same as disbelief.
There is no God and never has been. I challenge anyone on earth to provide irrefutable evidence that can be independently verified.
Posting pictures which evolved as the planet evolved is not proof of any God.
You do not know God exists. That's a lie. You have never seen or interacted with any God. You might think you have because you believe in God but you have no evidence at all.
Before you bombard me with your silly bible quotes and psalms etc, I am very good at this debate.
I do nt care what you believe but don't force your lies and myths on me and spray your bullshit around as if it is fact.
And you cannot know without a doubt that gods don't exist.
In fact there's a hell of a lot more of what we don't know than what we do.
Again, if you have that proof, present it now or stop spreading lies and myths as fact.
If religion had proof they would produce it immediately purely to destroy atheism.
You have nothing and never will so until you prove me wrong, I'll say it again, there is no God and never has been ..
Why don't you read what I said again.
I don't know with any certainty that gods exist or don't exist but lack of evidence in itself is not proof of anything. The creationists say lack of scientific evidence is proof of god. Rabid atheists say lack of evidence is proof that gods don't exist.
You can't even see that you are using the same flawed logic the people you criticize are using
Personally I don't think it matters if gods exist or not
There is no flaw in my logic and you as a godbotherer can not prove it.
How can a lack of evidence be proof of anything? That's absurd.
What can be asserted without evidence can dismissed without evidence.
Youre problem is you do believe and cannot tolerate it being challenged.
So out come these whacky scenarios attempting to prove it.
You don't start writing checks for a thousand dollars without checking the money is there. Why would you base your whole life on something you have no evidence of.
It's ridiculous.
Once again you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension. You are so biased that you can't actually read and understand what other people write.
I don't care if gods exist or not. I do not worship any gods. Saying that I cannot without any certainty say whether gods exist or not in no way implies that I worship gods or that I believe they exist.
But your insistence that lack of evidence is proof of something is flawed logic.
All that could be true but I don't resolve from my believe unless proven otherwise.
There is no God and never has been. I challenge anyone on earth to provide irrefutable evidence that can be independently verified.
Posting pictures which evolved as the planet evolved is not proof of any God.
You do not know God exists. That's a lie. You have never seen or interacted with any God. You might think you have because you believe in God but you have no evidence at all.
Before you bombard me with your silly bible quotes and psalms etc, I am very good at this debate.
I do nt care what you believe but don't force your lies and myths on me and spray your bullshit around as if it is fact.
And you cannot know without a doubt that gods don't exist.
In fact there's a hell of a lot more of what we don't know than what we do.
Again, if you have that proof, present it now or stop spreading lies and myths as fact.
If religion had proof they would produce it immediately purely to destroy atheism.
You have nothing and never will so until you prove me wrong, I'll say it again, there is no God and never has been ..
Why don't you read what I said again.
I don't know with any certainty that gods exist or don't exist but lack of evidence in itself is not proof of anything. The creationists say lack of scientific evidence is proof of god. Rabid atheists say lack of evidence is proof that gods don't exist.
You can't even see that you are using the same flawed logic the people you criticize are using
Personally I don't think it matters if gods exist or not
There is no flaw in my logic and you as a godbotherer can not prove it.
How can a lack of evidence be proof of anything? That's absurd.
What can be asserted without evidence can dismissed without evidence.
Youre problem is you do believe and cannot tolerate it being challenged.
So out come these whacky scenarios attempting to prove it.
You don't start writing checks for a thousand dollars without checking the money is there. Why would you base your whole life on something you have no evidence of.
It's ridiculous.
Once again you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension. You are so biased that you can't actually read and understand what other people write.
I don't care if gods exist or not. I do not worship any gods. Saying that I cannot without any certainty say whether gods exist or not in no way implies that I worship gods or that I believe they exist.
But your insistence that lack of evidence is proof of something is flawed logic.
All that could be true but I don't resolve from my believe unless proven otherwise.
So you're just as bad as the people you criticize. You believe what you believe without any certainty that you are actually correct
What an awful person you must be!
He believes what he believes ..... or he believes that he believes? I think you disbelieve what you disbelieve because believers believe in what is believable while you cannot believe that the unbelievable is unbelieved.
There is no God and never has been. I challenge anyone on earth to provide irrefutable evidence that can be independently verified.
Posting pictures which evolved as the planet evolved is not proof of any God.
You do not know God exists. That's a lie. You have never seen or interacted with any God. You might think you have because you believe in God but you have no evidence at all.
Before you bombard me with your silly bible quotes and psalms etc, I am very good at this debate.
I do nt care what you believe but don't force your lies and myths on me and spray your bullshit around as if it is fact.
And you cannot know without a doubt that gods don't exist.
In fact there's a hell of a lot more of what we don't know than what we do.
Again, if you have that proof, present it now or stop spreading lies and myths as fact.
If religion had proof they would produce it immediately purely to destroy atheism.
You have nothing and never will so until you prove me wrong, I'll say it again, there is no God and never has been ..
Why don't you read what I said again.
I don't know with any certainty that gods exist or don't exist but lack of evidence in itself is not proof of anything. The creationists say lack of scientific evidence is proof of god. Rabid atheists say lack of evidence is proof that gods don't exist.
You can't even see that you are using the same flawed logic the people you criticize are using
Personally I don't think it matters if gods exist or not
There is no flaw in my logic and you as a godbotherer can not prove it.
How can a lack of evidence be proof of anything? That's absurd.
What can be asserted without evidence can dismissed without evidence.
Youre problem is you do believe and cannot tolerate it being challenged.
So out come these whacky scenarios attempting to prove it.
You don't start writing checks for a thousand dollars without checking the money is there. Why would you base your whole life on something you have no evidence of.
It's ridiculous.
Once again you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension. You are so biased that you can't actually read and understand what other people write.
I don't care if gods exist or not. I do not worship any gods. Saying that I cannot without any certainty say whether gods exist or not in no way implies that I worship gods or that I believe they exist.
But your insistence that lack of evidence is proof of something is flawed logic.
All that could be true but I don't resolve from my believe unless proven otherwise.
So you're just as bad as the people you criticize. You believe what you believe without any certainty that you are actually correct
I know. I've for this hereditary problem. I've had it since childhood, like a club foot.
It originates from not believing anything that can't be proven to exist.
Of course if you have proof God exists and show that on here within 24 hours, I will walk from times square to the stock exchange in February in the nude.
Wouldn't it be good to provide proof of God and see me make a fool of myself?
See how you go. I'll wait here.
I neither believe nor disbelieve in gods
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So if the universe didn't exist fifteen billion years ago that must mean that it still doesn't exist or that miracle happened right?
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So if the universe didn't exist fifteen billion years ago that must mean that it still doesn't exist or that miracle happened right?
So salad doesn't exist or that miracle happened right?
