The SCIENCE that supports the DELUGE of Noah's Day

[LittleNipper]

We only need 3 men and their wives to explain the races today.

We know this is false. We know this is false just as much as we know the Earth is round.

You do nothing of the sort. The DNA evidence tells a story that completely supports the Biblical Epic . LATEST DNA SCIENCE supports NOAH'S FLOOD! Carl Gallups Explains : TrueChristian

 

[LittleNipper]

More Bad News for Radiometric Dating

 

[LittleNipper]

We only need 3 men and their wives to explain the races today.

We know this is false. We know this is false just as much as we know the Earth is round.

Dr Mc Murtry is a lot more learned that either you or I.

Haha, I get a kick out of you, when you do this. If the education and experience of scientists meant anything at all to you (which it does not) , you would accept the overwhelming consensus of the scientific community across every field of science.

Do you realize how dishonest you are being right now?

I can apply the very same criteria to you with regard to Bible scholars and the clergy. You don't accept their consensus, in fact you hold such people in contempt. Yet they have often spent a lifetime in research and study of the original tongues coupled with archaeological investigation. I'm not seeking to agree by accepting what people think or imagine may have happened, but that which is true... And if history teaches anything, it shows what is popular is often not correct. I don't base either truth or reality on what the majority thinks.

 

[james bond]

As a wide variety of cultures have myths about a great flood, it seems to make sense to me that such an event actually occurred.

There have been many great floods. The infilling of the Black Sea, the Spokane Floods, the Bonneville Flood, the tsunami that swept Doggerland. But this is zero evidence for a single great flood that covered the mountain tops. Just a myth borrowed from the Gilgamesh Epic.

There is evidence that the Earth was once covered in frozen water. But that was about 650 million years before anything resembling a human could have observed it.

Yep. The Ice Age came after and was caused by Noah's Flood.

Not the 'Ice Age'. That was simple glacierization. There were periods of 'Snowball Earth' where the entire planet was frozen. The last was 650 million years ago.

The Ice Age was real. Snowball Earth is myth. The evidence shows annual layers that are thick at the bottom, with some compression, and thin layers towards the top. Slow accumulation over time as hypothesized in Snowball Earth would have the lower layers to be compressed to paper–thin layers near the bottom. This is not the case.

 

[Hollie]

This is Dr. Grady Mc Murtry. He was once a staunch evolutionist who came to the scientific conclusion that evolution as it is accepted is in error and that the FLOOD of Noah's time was a real occurrence that shaped our environment we observe today.

It really is appalling that anyone would use a crackpot such as McMurty in an attempt to support a position on science matters.

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1981: Grady McMurtry

Grady McMurtry is a regular guest on Revelation TV, especially on The Q&A Show (with Revelation TV founder and host Howard Conder). Now, Revelation TV is a British endeavor, but McMurtry is American: he is the head of Creation Worldview Ministries in Orlando, which consists of one person in addition to himself. So, yeah – he is a minor player. But he has received some attention by being unusually ridiculous, even by the already dismal creationist standards.

Like most creationists, McMurtry likes to mislead his audiences about his credentials. He claims to be a “scientific creationist” and often presents himself as “Dr. McMurtry”, but his doctorate is from an unaccredited Bible college, and his BA and MA have nothing to do with evolution (his credentials are discussed in some detail here). And make no mistake: McMurtry has no idea what the theory of evolution actually is, and tends to refer to anyone who disagree with him on matters geology or astronomy as well as “evolutionists” (Evolutionism - RationalWiki)

 

[Hollie]

I am sure floods have happened to people all over the planet, multiple times.

Most, if not nearly all the fossils presently found, show the truth that these creatures all perished in a horrific Flood, the magnitude of which has never been equaled nor ever will again. Even aquatic fossils demonstrate an enormous amount of churned up silt and muck.

LOL What a pile of shit that statement is. Thousands of fossils in North America from volcanic eruptions. And, for the last 500,000,000 million years, we have been seeing fossils from all kinds of environments, and most are not from being covered in a flood. Floods make for rather poor fossils, as they are energetic, and tend to completely mangle what is caught in them.

All the fossils are the result of being buried in MUD.

Excepting those not buried in MUD.

PALAEONTOLOGY[online] | Article: Fossil Focus > Fossil focus: Stuck in time — life trapped in amber

 

[Old Rocks]

I am sure floods have happened to people all over the planet, multiple times.

Most, if not nearly all the fossils presently found, show the truth that these creatures all perished in a horrific Flood, the magnitude of which has never been equaled nor ever will again. Even aquatic fossils demonstrate an enormous amount of churned up silt and muck.

LOL What a pile of shit that statement is. Thousands of fossils in North America from volcanic eruptions. And, for the last 500,000,000 million years, we have been seeing fossils from all kinds of environments, and most are not from being covered in a flood. Floods make for rather poor fossils, as they are energetic, and tend to completely mangle what is caught in them.

All the fossils are the result of being buried in MUD.

You just get sillier with each post. Apparently you are completely devoid of any knowledge of fossils.

Ancient Ash Volcanoes Entombed Chinese Dinosaurs

 

[Old Rocks]

As a wide variety of cultures have myths about a great flood, it seems to make sense to me that such an event actually occurred.

There have been many great floods. The infilling of the Black Sea, the Spokane Floods, the Bonneville Flood, the tsunami that swept Doggerland. But this is zero evidence for a single great flood that covered the mountain tops. Just a myth borrowed from the Gilgamesh Epic.

There is evidence that the Earth was once covered in frozen water. But that was about 650 million years before anything resembling a human could have observed it.

Yep. The Ice Age came after and was caused by Noah's Flood.

And here we have somone even more ignorant than Nipper. Lordy, lordy.

 

[Hollie]

We only need 3 men and their wives to explain the races today.

We know this is false. We know this is false just as much as we know the Earth is round.

You do nothing of the sort. The DNA evidence tells a story that completely supports the Biblical Epic . LATEST DNA SCIENCE supports NOAH'S FLOOD! Carl Gallups Explains : TrueChristian

There is an obvious and rather glaring inconsistency in the Carl Gallup “explanation”. The claim that there was “rapid diversification (of the human genome) about 5,000 years ago” actually contradicts the flood tale.

As the Bibles describe it, only Noah and his immediate family were left to re-populate the earth after the flood. Those familial relations (sometimes called “insestuous” relations), would have the opposite effect of diversification related to the gene pool.

 

[fncceo]

We only need 3 men and their wives to explain the races today.

We know this is false. We know this is false just as much as we know the Earth is round.

You do nothing of the sort. The DNA evidence tells a story that completely supports the Biblical Epic . LATEST DNA SCIENCE supports NOAH'S FLOOD! Carl Gallups Explains : TrueChristian

There is an obvious and rather glaring inconsistency in the Carl Gallup “explanation”. The claim that there was “rapid diversification (of the human genome) about 5,000 years ago” actually contradicts the flood tale.

As the Bibles describe it, only Noah and his immediate family were left to re-populate the earth after the flood. Those familial relations (sometimes called “insestuous” relations), would have the opposite effect of diversification related to the gene pool.

The math checks out.

 

[LittleNipper]

We only need 3 men and their wives to explain the races today.

We know this is false. We know this is false just as much as we know the Earth is round.

You do nothing of the sort. The DNA evidence tells a story that completely supports the Biblical Epic . LATEST DNA SCIENCE supports NOAH'S FLOOD! Carl Gallups Explains : TrueChristian

There is an obvious and rather glaring inconsistency in the Carl Gallup “explanation”. The claim that there was “rapid diversification (of the human genome) about 5,000 years ago” actually contradicts the flood tale.

As the Bibles describe it, only Noah and his immediate family were left to re-populate the earth after the flood. Those familial relations (sometimes called “insestuous” relations), would have the opposite effect of diversification related to the gene pool.

DNA --- What it is and isn't DNA & Genetics – Evolution Is Not The Answer

 

[LittleNipper]

I am sure floods have happened to people all over the planet, multiple times.

Most, if not nearly all the fossils presently found, show the truth that these creatures all perished in a horrific Flood, the magnitude of which has never been equaled nor ever will again. Even aquatic fossils demonstrate an enormous amount of churned up silt and muck.

LOL What a pile of shit that statement is. Thousands of fossils in North America from volcanic eruptions. And, for the last 500,000,000 million years, we have been seeing fossils from all kinds of environments, and most are not from being covered in a flood. Floods make for rather poor fossils, as they are energetic, and tend to completely mangle what is caught in them.

All the fossils are the result of being buried in MUD.

You just get sillier with each post. Apparently you are completely devoid of any knowledge of fossils.

Ancient Ash Volcanoes Entombed Chinese Dinosaurs

I should have said MOST ALL; however, it is just as likely that these dinosaurs were victims of the Flood. Obviously the fossils of Pompeii were not part of the Flood, but that is much more recent and not being debated here.

 

[Old Rocks]

I am sure floods have happened to people all over the planet, multiple times.

Most, if not nearly all the fossils presently found, show the truth that these creatures all perished in a horrific Flood, the magnitude of which has never been equaled nor ever will again. Even aquatic fossils demonstrate an enormous amount of churned up silt and muck.

LOL What a pile of shit that statement is. Thousands of fossils in North America from volcanic eruptions. And, for the last 500,000,000 million years, we have been seeing fossils from all kinds of environments, and most are not from being covered in a flood. Floods make for rather poor fossils, as they are energetic, and tend to completely mangle what is caught in them.

All the fossils are the result of being buried in MUD.

You just get sillier with each post. Apparently you are completely devoid of any knowledge of fossils.

Ancient Ash Volcanoes Entombed Chinese Dinosaurs

I should have said MOST ALL; however, it is just as likely that these dinosaurs were victims of the Flood. Obviously the fossils of Pompeii were not part of the Flood, but that is much more recent and not being debated here.

Lordy, lordy, why don't you just wear a big sign, Willfully Ignorant? There are many places in the world with dinosaur fossils in volcanic ash, a whole herd of them in Montana, and here are some from China;

Ancient Ash Volcanoes Entombed Chinese Dinosaurs

 

[evenflow1969]

You certainly cannot and your evolutionary cohorts can not, will not, and have not observed the event...

So what? We also have not observed the fusion at the core of stars. But we know it is there. What a dumb argument.

Furthermore, look at the absurdity of your comments. Did you observe god creating living things? No...then, in the next breath, you mention not observibg abiogenesis as some sort of argument against it? What is wrong with your brain, nipskee?

So, let's compare:

You never observed god creating animals, and I never observed abiogenesis. However, you have not a shred of evidence or logic to support your magical claim, and all of the evidence stands against your claim

But the truth of abiogenesis would be consistent with all of the evidence, and makes perfect sense, in light of everything we know about the universe.

Face it...you and your magical nonsense are losing badly .

Speak for yourself ----- There have been not a few people viewing the info and only a few die-hards have imagined that they are winning anything. I'm happy if everyone at least realizes that there is far more evidence for a MAJOR Catastrophe than Uniformitarianists have ever been willing to admit to...

Here is another secular look by NOVA -- MYSTERY OF THE MEGA FLOOD. It is interesting to see how truly vindictive those in authority can become.

As a wide variety of cultures have myths about a great flood, it seems to make sense to me that such an event actually occurred.

There have been many great floods. The infilling of the Black Sea, the Spokane Floods, the Bonneville Flood, the tsunami that swept Doggerland. But this is zero evidence for a single great flood that covered the mountain tops. Just a myth borrowed from the Gilgamesh Epic.

There is evidence that the Earth was once covered in frozen water. But that was about 650 million years before anything resembling a human could have observed it.

Snowball Earth, and it happened more than once. But Nipper knows little of geology, or he would not be making these silly claims.

There was certainly a big flood after snowball earth but humans could not have witnessed it! At least with what we know about man kind! That all being said please tell me how the Hblocks at PumaPuncu got toppled. MOst likely a flood from what is seen. Further more one must think a bit about perspective when looking at these stories. Considering there were no telephones or satalites one could look around for as far as the eye could see and see flood. To this persons eyes it would appear as though the known world was flooded.

 

[Old Rocks]

There was a flood at the infilling of the Black Sea. There were multiple floods in the Spokane Floods, and even a flood from Lake Bonneville down the Snake. There were tsunami caused floods in Doggerland and many other places. But they were not at the same time, many thousands of years apart. Yes, and to the locals, it would appear as if their whole world were flooded. But none of this gives any support at all to the myth of the Biblical flood. All of these floods left evidence of there passage. There is no such evidence for a worldwide flood.

 

[LittleNipper]

The HYDROPLATE THEORY

 

[Hollie]

The HYDROPLATE THEORY

Walt Brown has some rather odd notions about science.

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #537: Walt Brown


The falsifications of the science positions posted in the video is another of the devices used by creationists to create the illusion that creationism is a viable mechanism to explain the diversity of life on the planet. Christian creationism is simply the misrepresentation of authoritative scientific research; The lack of actual research undertaken by the christian creationist ministries and the refusal to submit research and results for peer review. The entirety of the creationist argument is to appeal to people with a prior commitment to religious dogma. However, since there is nothing in the literature of the Christian creationist ministries to support their arguments, their charade of authority can be maintained only by pressing a distorted caricature of how the Scientific Method is actually maintained.

If you want science, you need to look to sources other than fundamentalist ministries.


Try here: Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd edition

 

[LittleNipper]

The HYDROPLATE THEORY

Walt Brown has some rather odd notions about science.

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #537: Walt Brown


The falsifications of the science positions posted in the video is another of the devices used by creationists to create the illusion that creationism is a viable mechanism to explain the diversity of life on the planet. Christian creationism is simply the misrepresentation of authoritative scientific research; The lack of actual research undertaken by the christian creationist ministries and the refusal to submit research and results for peer review. The entirety of the creationist argument is to appeal to people with a prior commitment to religious dogma. However, since there is nothing in the literature of the Christian creationist ministries to support their arguments, their charade of authority can be maintained only by pressing a distorted caricature of how the Scientific Method is actually maintained.

If you want science, you need to look to sources other than fundamentalist ministries.


Try here: Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd edition

If you want the truth concerning GOD and HIS creation, you cannot rely on atheists and their theories as the final say.

The reality is that Noah and his family obviously didn't sit on their duffs for a year. They had jobs to do in caring for the animals. The Bible clearly says that GOD brought the animals to the ark. Noah didn't have to run after them. And it is a shame that men of science have to be labeled nuts by people who do not believe in GOD and see no other possibilities other than evolution.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

As a wide variety of cultures have myths about a great flood, it seems to make sense to me that such an event actually occurred.

There have been many great floods. The infilling of the Black Sea, the Spokane Floods, the Bonneville Flood, the tsunami that swept Doggerland. But this is zero evidence for a single great flood that covered the mountain tops. Just a myth borrowed from the Gilgamesh Epic.

There is evidence that the Earth was once covered in frozen water. But that was about 650 million years before anything resembling a human could have observed it.

Yep. The Ice Age came after and was caused by Noah's Flood.

Demonstrably false, ridiculous pap.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you want the truth concerning GOD and HIS creation, you cannot rely on atheists and their theories as the final say.

You mean "scientific theories" and, unlike your authoritative religious nonsense, they rely on evidence, not on the strident insistence of a guy in funny clothes who molests children.