The SC will decide if domestic abusers get to possess firearms.

[Harry Dresden]

violent people should have zero access to guns.....and that includes a man or woman who are proven to be abusive in their relationship.....and an x con who was incarcerated for an act of violence.....no guns....

 

[Mac-7]

It is a no brainer

If you are convicted or have a domestic abuse restraining order, you should not have access to guns

And pretty soon every gun owner in America will be hit with domestic abuse charges

 

[berg80]

I am also concerned about dubious claims of domestic abuse

If the threat is real submit it to a judge and jury before you go off half cocked

“As this Court has said,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar began, “all too often the difference between a battered woman and a dead woman is the presence of a gun.”

As indicated by your posts, you really don't give a shit.

 

[Harry Dresden]

And pretty soon every gun owner in America will be hit with domestic abuse charges

it has to be proven....and if say the wife was found to be lying....then she should do some time....

 

[pknopp]

Dems are not going to wait for due process

They - and maybe you - want cops to grab guns first and worry about due process later

Trump said he supported red flag laws.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump said he supported red flag laws.

Trump was wrong

 

[berg80]

And pretty soon every gun owner in America will be hit with domestic abuse charges

It's not surprising, since it happens so often among defenders of all things guns, that you make strawman arguments when rational ones fail you. More or less like saying background checks will lead to gun confiscation. It's moronic, and therefore effective among folks like yourself.

 

[22lcidw]

“As this Court has said,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar began, “all too often the difference between a battered woman and a dead woman is the presence of a gun.”

As indicated by your posts, you really don't give a shit.

There are people that believe that the domestic abuse laws need to be looked at again. And modernized.

 

[berg80]

There are people that believe that the domestic abuse laws need to be looked at again. And modernized.

What people? Domestic abusers?

 

[Mac-7]

“As this Court has said,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar began, “all too often the difference between a battered woman and a dead woman is the presence of a gun.”

As indicated by your posts, you really don't give a shit.

Take it before a judge and jury before taking the guns

 

[Mac-7]

It's not surprising, since it happens so often among defenders of all things guns, that you make strawman arguments when rational ones fail you. More or less like saying background checks will lead to gun confiscation. It's moronic, and therefore effective among folks like yourself.

The red flag laws will be abused by lib gun grabbers

 

[Polishprince]

"Due process" is the key. An alleged "abuser" should be tried before a jury of his peers before having his right to self-defense ended by a court.

Too many times, they can just strip someone of their guns and leave them to die merely on the basis of one person's testimony.

 

[berg80]

Take it before a judge and jury before taking the guns

Your desire to put domestic abuse victims at maximum risk is well established. No need for redundancy.

 

[Polishprince]

Your desire to put domestic abuse victims at maximum risk is well established. No need for redundancy.

You are a desire to put ordinary citizens at maximum risk. If you take someone's firearms away from them, and the next day a criminals pulls a gun on them, they are the ones who are dead. Not you.

 

[berg80]

The red flag laws will be abused by lib gun grabbers

Doubling down on ineffectual strawman arguments only serves to expose the intellectual bankruptcy of your position.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The plaintiff's argument:
Well, there were no laws in 1791 which took guns from those who commit domestic violence, but the founding fathers would have agreed with such laws.

Bruen test: Fail.
Strike the law.

Do you people -really- think the court did not have laws like this in mind when they handed down Bruen?

 

[M14 Shooter]

violent people should have zero access to guns.....

If they are violent enough they should not have guns, they are violent enough to take off the streets.

 

[Polishprince]

Riddle me this , berg. Suppose someone loses their firearms unjustly in this kind of case. And as a result they are killed by a criminal. Should the False Complainer and judge be held for murder too?

 

[M14 Shooter]

“As this Court has said,” Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar began, “all too often the difference between a battered woman and a dead woman is the presence of a gun.”

And, as there court has said. there are constitutional limits on when the state can take someone's guns from the.
As indicated by your posts, you really don't give a shit.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Riddle me this , berg. Suppose someone loses their firearms unjustly in this kind of case. And as a result they are killed by a criminal. Should the False Complainer and judge be held for murder too?

There should be -significant- penalties for those who make false accusations - civil and criminal.