The Rush To Try Trump Before The Election

[kyzr]

Sometimes they should be.
You’re not allowed to take into account his motivation. Actions for personal gain are now perfectly legal.
President is commander in chief and orders to the military are very much part of their exclusive official duties. This confers absolute immunity.

1. The only example of a president breaking a law as part of their official duties is when Obama killed a US citizen without due process.

Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki - Wikipedia

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2. Disagree. Courts decide if actions are official or personal. If the personal actions are illegal he can be prosecuted.

3. Illegal orders will not be obeyed by the military. If they are declared not part of his official duties they can be considered solicitation for murder and prosecuted.

 

[westwall]

I've read it about 50 times scruffy, how about you? (and some of the related federalist papers to try to understand it better, though I will admit, I am only a layman, and no expert)

I find that hard to believe based on your abject failure to understand even the very basics.

 

[Care4all]

I find that hard to believe based on your abject failure to understand even the very basics.

Like what?

 

[Care4all]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm, Trump has already been in office and I liked the result. It is since Biden took office the country has gone to pot.

Overspending $8 trillion in 4 years can do that...

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

July 11th. The day trump gets sentenced. Big day is not far away. trump and his lawyers want the case gone. The 34 felonies a jury of his peers nailed him on. So the crooked shit show guy you call dear leader is shitting his pants and it doesn't look good.

Yes! It is a big day!
It’s the day Trumps poll numbers skyrocket.

 

[White 6]

New York law doesn't supercede the Bill of Rights, moron.

File a brief, moron. So your guy got busted on 34 counts, lost multiple lawsuit for actions taken and runaway mouth. You should be used to it by now. Look at all the people in his admin, busted while he was in there, and by his department of justice. Look at Stone, guilty on all 7 felony counts. Your boy runs with sleazes as he is one of them and one with them.

 

[westwall]

File a brief, moron. So your guy got busted on 34 counts, lost multiple lawsuit for actions taken and runaway mouth. You should be used to it by now. Look at all the people in his admin, busted while he was in there, and by his department of justice. Look at Stone, guilty on all 7 felony counts. Your boy runs with sleazes as he is one of them and one with them.

I don't need to, idiot. The Bill of Rights supercedes any ridiculous bullshit laws that New York creates.

I hate to break it to ya, cupcake, but the rules of law actually means something in a FREE country.

Not the fascist police state you so desperately desire.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The pure nihilism of the political right is astounding.

Nothing matters anymore.

The point was, nothing matters to the left anymore. Regardless of what happens, you all will still say he’s guilty.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Then why the fear of having the trial before election day?

First, because there’s not enough time.

But, I assume they don’t want it because of leftist shenanigans. But my post was more to the mindset of the left. It doesn’t matter what outcome there is, they are going to believe what they are going to believe.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

1. The only example of a president breaking a law as part of their official duties is when Obama killed a US citizen without due process.

and now any POTUS can do so again without any fear thanks to SCOTUS.

and you morons are cheering.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The point was, nothing matters to the left anymore. Regardless of what happens, you all will still say he’s guilty.

and the right will say he is innocnet no matter what.

When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any votes, he knew what he was talking about

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It doesn’t matter what outcome there is, they are going to believe what they are going to believe.

and the right is any different?

 

[ThisIsMe]

and the right will say he is innocnet no matter what.

When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any votes, he knew what he was talking about

and the right will say he is innocnet no matter what.

Possibly, but I assure you, you’ll find more right wingers who would say he is guilty than you would left wingers who’d say he was innocent.

When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose any votes, he knew what he was talking about

Yeah, he knew he had a loyal voter base…

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Possibly, but I assure you, you’ll find more right wingers who would say he is guilty

I have not met one yet.

 

[ThisIsMe]

and the right is any different?

To some extent, yes and no. I’ve seen more pushback from the right against Trump than I ever did from the left about Biden. Still, both sides are guilty of it I guess.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I have not met one yet.

really? Ever hear of never trumpers? Or the Lincoln project? Mitch McConnell…several members of the right wing Congress..granted I think they are all rinos, but still, they purport to be republicans yet speak out against Trump.

On the radio, I always hear a much more evenhanded critique of Trump from then right, but on the lefty radio, it’s nothing but high praises for Biden, no matter what.

 

[Godboy]

Because the people deserve to know if they’re electing a criminal or not.

Havent you seen the polls? No one believes in these prosecutions. The majority thinks they are purely political. Your lawfare backfired on your party.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

On the radio, I always hear a much more evenhanded critique of Trump from then right, but on the lefty radio, it’s nothing but high praises for Biden, no matter what.

There is lefty radio?

 

[Frankenstein]

July 11th. The day trump gets sentenced. Big day is not far away. trump and his lawyers want the case gone. The 34 felonies a jury of his peers nailed him on. So the crooked shit show guy you call dear leader is shitting his pants and it doesn't look good.

Jury of his peers?

 

[berg80]

The check in the Constitution is High Crimes and Misdemeanors in terms of conduct. That would mean only impeachment and removal could be used. This was a half baked compromise and you folks still whine. Pathetic.

Trump tried to wipe away the votes of 81M Americans by orchestrating a coup and still only 7 Repub senators voted to convict him in the second impeachment. Most of them because they were not running for re-election so they didn't have to face the cult's wrath.
Nothing Trump could do will result in removal from office by impeachment so effectively there is no check on his behavior.