The richest have a 16% effective tax rate- Clinton to go for the Buffett rule- 30%. TY Dems

[80zephyr]

Don't confuse Cranko with the facts.

His tiny little left wing mind is already made up.

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Actually, I have proven that it is WRONG.

Sorry about that.

Mark

 

[OKTexas]

They got nothing but very expensive crap, the costs are going up, out of pocket is going up and people are avoiding the doctor because the can't afford the deductibles. Good job regressivecrats.

People don't undertand how cheap tests and doctor visits are. TY, corporate coward media. So many stories of ACA successes. So many helpful facts...

I know how "cheap" doctors and tests are. The Clinic charges me $750.00 for one visit to my specialist. $350.00 to see my family doctor. Blood tests can range anywhere from $200.00 to $2,000 or more.

Colonoscopy is $3500. Doctors visit is over $200. Who can afford that. $7200 a year in premiums $1600 deductible then 80/20 from that point. So a doctors visit and a colonoscopy that I need this year will cost me $9240. And Franco thinks this is a good deal. Why because everyone else pays for his.

Franco is retired military and the government pays for the majority of his.

Nope. I go on Medicare in 3 months.

And you've got tricare now and will have tricare for life once you go on medicare, medicare is much more expensive than tricare, enjoy those medicare premiums.

 

[francoHFW]

And they got better plans, duh. And if they have a brain, keep their doctors. What a pile of Pubcrappe. Obama was right, and the Pub predictions every year ARE lies. They keep predicting skyrocketing rises, then the actual rise is 4% lol...if they allowed Medicaid, not even that.

They got nothing but very expensive crap, the costs are going up, out of pocket is going up and people are avoiding the doctor because the can't afford the deductibles. Good job regressivecrats.

People don't undertand how cheap tests and doctor visits are. TY, corporate coward media. So many stories of ACA successes. So many helpful facts...

I know how "cheap" doctors and tests are. The Clinic charges me $750.00 for one visit to my specialist. $350.00 to see my family doctor. Blood tests can range anywhere from $200.00 to $2,000 or more.

Colonoscopy is $3500. Doctors visit is over $200. Who can afford that. $7200 a year in premiums $1600 deductible then 80/20 from that point. So a doctors visit and a colonoscopy that I need this year will cost me $9240. And Franco thinks this is a good deal. Why because everyone else pays for his.

You have that right.

I lost my coverage from my employer. One time when I brought the issue up to one of my tenants, she bragged about Commie Care because thanks to the program, she gained medical coverage.

My tenant is a pot smoker who works minimum wage fast food jobs because better paying jobs drug test. She pays the rent and drives older vehicles, but has better medical coverage than her landlord.

It goes right back down to the liberal philosophy: punish the responsible and reward the irresponsible. That's because responsible people are likely Republican voters and irresponsible people generally vote Democrat.

There are 20 red states where she wouldn't get medicaid, which isn't that hot. and would DIE or have to go on welfare to get care. Also her costs would be charged to the insured. Bad old times.

 

[leftwinger]

Dems did have 24 days in session when they could stop filibusters.
It's all in the link.

Nothing but excuses and blame game. They can build a car in about 4 hours. They could have had a stack of bills ready to ram thru one after another for 24 days. The are the rich, they like it as-is.

 

[80zephyr]

Another dishonest liberal hate the rich thread which ignores that the top 5% already pay the lions share of the taxes. Tell us libs you cowards how much of the taxes should the rich pay, 100%? What's a fair share that will get you to shut the hell up? Grow a pair and pick a number you gutless nancies.

The first response you'll get from a liberal is how much money the rich have as if that makes any difference.

Liberals live in this make believe world where we all live in a bubble. In our bubble, there is only so much money. That's why when one has too much, others have too little.

Of course that's not reality. If it were, when I ask my employer for a raise, he would tell me that he''d love to give me one, but he can't because the rich have all the money. So far, that's never happened to me before and I don't know anybody where it has.

This bubble world is why liberals believe that if they take money from the rich, it will somehow end up in their pockets. They fail to explain the dynamics of their genius, but it's what they really believe.

BS. When 1% of the country get 99% of new wealth, the system is fecked, dupe. Dems want to tax the wealthy their fair share, invest in Americans, and cut taxes on the nonrich. It's not rocket science.

There are approximately 530 billionaires in America. If you took ALL their money, do you know how long you could run our government?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Anyway, the American Medical Journal agrees with me. But I'm sick of educating you dupes...
Medical bills cause 62 percent of bankruptcies

Actually, your link proves what I have been saying. Do you even understand what I told you about Canada?

Mark

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They got nothing but very expensive crap, the costs are going up, out of pocket is going up and people are avoiding the doctor because the can't afford the deductibles. Good job regressivecrats.

People don't undertand how cheap tests and doctor visits are. TY, corporate coward media. So many stories of ACA successes. So many helpful facts...

I know how "cheap" doctors and tests are. The Clinic charges me $750.00 for one visit to my specialist. $350.00 to see my family doctor. Blood tests can range anywhere from $200.00 to $2,000 or more.

Colonoscopy is $3500. Doctors visit is over $200. Who can afford that. $7200 a year in premiums $1600 deductible then 80/20 from that point. So a doctors visit and a colonoscopy that I need this year will cost me $9240. And Franco thinks this is a good deal. Why because everyone else pays for his.

You have that right.

I lost my coverage from my employer. One time when I brought the issue up to one of my tenants, she bragged about Commie Care because thanks to the program, she gained medical coverage.

My tenant is a pot smoker who works minimum wage fast food jobs because better paying jobs drug test. She pays the rent and drives older vehicles, but has better medical coverage than her landlord.

It goes right back down to the liberal philosophy: punish the responsible and reward the irresponsible. That's because responsible people are likely Republican voters and irresponsible people generally vote Democrat.

There are 20 red states where she wouldn't get medicaid, which isn't that hot. and would DIE or have to go on welfare to get care. Also her costs would be charged to the insured. Bad old times.

Or because the fact she is younger she doesn't care much about medical insurance. Maybe if she did, she would quit smoking pot and get a real job that had the benefit.

 

[80zephyr]

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Lol! What a big freakin line of BS. at Franco, anyone that believes his tripe is a moron or a brain dead Democrat nutter.

I have read it all! That is the stupidest crap I have read in a long time.

Pull your head out of Obama's ass dip wad, the lack of oxygen is affecting your brain.

Here, stupid. From the American Journal of Medicine. You want a diagram, ignorant dupes?
A study released Thursday [pdf] by the American Journal of Medicine finds a huge increase—nearly 20 percent—in medical bankruptcies between 2001 and 2007. Sixty-two percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were tied to medical expenses. Three-quarters of those who filed for bankruptcies in 2007 had health insurance.Using a conservative definition, 62.1% of all bankruptcies in 2007 were medical; 92% of these medical debtors had medical debts over $5000, or 10% of pretax family income. The rest met criteria for medical bankruptcy because they had lost significant income due to illness or mortgaged a home to pay medical bills. Most medical debtors were well educated, owned homes, and had middle-class occupations. Three quarters had health insurance. Using identical definitions in 2001 and 2007, the share of bankruptcies attributable to medical problems rose by 49.6%. In logistic regression analysis controlling for demographic factors, the odds that a bankruptcy had a medical cause was 2.38-fold higher in 2007 than in 2001. […]

In 2007, before the current economic downturn, an American family filed for bankruptcy in the aftermath of illness every 90 seconds; three quarters of them were insured.

Since 2001, the proportion of all bankruptcies attributable to medical problems has increased by 50%. Nearly two thirds of all bankruptcies are now linked to illness.

How did medical problems propel so many middle-class, insured Americans toward bankruptcy? For 92% of the medically bankrupt, high medical bills directly contributed to their bankruptcy. Many families with continuous cover- age found themselves under-insured, responsible for thou- sands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. Others had private coverage but lost it when they became too sick to work. Nationally, a quarter of firms cancel coverage immediately when an employee suffers a disabling illness; another quarter do so within a year. Income loss due to illness also was common, but nearly always coupled with high medical bills.

Thanks for your help.

Mark

 

[francoHFW]

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Actually, I have proven that it is WRONG.

Sorry about that.

Mark

BS. 3/4 of bankruptcies before O-Care HAD insurance.

 

[francoHFW]

People don't undertand how cheap tests and doctor visits are. TY, corporate coward media. So many stories of ACA successes. So many helpful facts...

I know how "cheap" doctors and tests are. The Clinic charges me $750.00 for one visit to my specialist. $350.00 to see my family doctor. Blood tests can range anywhere from $200.00 to $2,000 or more.

Colonoscopy is $3500. Doctors visit is over $200. Who can afford that. $7200 a year in premiums $1600 deductible then 80/20 from that point. So a doctors visit and a colonoscopy that I need this year will cost me $9240. And Franco thinks this is a good deal. Why because everyone else pays for his.

You have that right.

I lost my coverage from my employer. One time when I brought the issue up to one of my tenants, she bragged about Commie Care because thanks to the program, she gained medical coverage.

My tenant is a pot smoker who works minimum wage fast food jobs because better paying jobs drug test. She pays the rent and drives older vehicles, but has better medical coverage than her landlord.

It goes right back down to the liberal philosophy: punish the responsible and reward the irresponsible. That's because responsible people are likely Republican voters and irresponsible people generally vote Democrat.

There are 20 red states where she wouldn't get medicaid, which isn't that hot. and would DIE or have to go on welfare to get care. Also her costs would be charged to the insured. Bad old times.

Or because the fact she is younger she doesn't care much about medical insurance. Maybe if she did, she would quit smoking pot and get a real job that had the benefit.

Punk kids these days! lol

 

[francoHFW]

The country is going to hell under Reaganism, kids. SOAK THE RICH!! They're due. AND giant corps.

 

[80zephyr]

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Actually, I have proven that it is WRONG.

Sorry about that.

Mark

BS. 3/4 of bankruptcies before O-Care HAD insurance.

And? 100% of the Canadian bankruptcies due to medical costs had insurance as well.

Your point?

Mark

 

[francoHFW]

Millions of Americans are finding out they will lose their current health plan due to Obamacare. Contrary to the statements made by some, Obamacare interrupts insurance for everyone, not just the Americans who purchase coverage directly in the individual market.

Losing Health Insurance Due to Obamacare

And they got better plans, duh. And if they have a brain, keep their doctors. What a pile of Pubcrappe. Obama was right, and the Pub predictions every year ARE lies. They keep predicting skyrocketing rises, then the actual rise is 4% lol...if they allowed Medicaid, not even that.

They got nothing but very expensive crap, the costs are going up, out of pocket is going up and people are avoiding the doctor because the can't afford the deductibles. Good job regressivecrats.

People don't undertand how cheap tests and doctor visits are. TY, corporate coward media. So many stories of ACA successes. So many helpful facts...

I know how "cheap" doctors and tests are. The Clinic charges me $750.00 for one visit to my specialist. $350.00 to see my family doctor. Blood tests can range anywhere from $200.00 to $2,000 or more.

Colonoscopy is $3500. Doctors visit is over $200. Who can afford that. $7200 a year in premiums $1600 deductible then 80/20 from that point. So a doctors visit and a colonoscopy that I need this year will cost me $9240. And Franco thinks this is a good deal. Why because everyone else pays for his.

Sounds like your annual cap comes in after the colonoscopy....what a mess. Good luck. The single payer will happen in about 20 years, and no that's a good thing.

 

[francoHFW]

I continue to stand with Ronald Reagan on this matter. Doesn't make a lick of sense, as he put it, that a bus driver should be paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes than millionaires and billionaires do.

It's not a matter of left and right; it's about right and wrongs and 16% is just wrong. We don't need tax increases as much as we simply need to close tax loopholes and recoup lost revenue.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, Hillary used 2013 numbers which were 16% instead of the 2014 numbers which was 27%.

That's besides the fact we are talking about income taxes here--not any other tax. Nearly half of American adults today pay no income tax at all.

BS. Those were very different groups. the 27% were the top 400 families.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Equal pay for equal work and transparency that GOPers lie about and pervert, dupe.

There is neither in the Obama administration, you are lying if you say otherwise.

Don't confuse Cranko with the facts.

His tiny little left wing mind is already made up.

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

Already provided it.

Any counter ?

 

[francoHFW]

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

From your sig line: 750k bankruptcies a year, most HAVE insurance - crap insurance!

How do you know this for a fact? In this day and age, a lot of households have 1 wage earner to support that household, quite a few have two wage earners. So tell me, what happens when it is the wage earner who gets sick? Even if their insurance pays their medical bills, they still owe for a mortgage/rent, utilities, car payments, etc. Maybe its the lost wages that cause these bankrupcies and not the "crappie" health insurance.

We know that Canada has universal health care, but medical problems are the third leading cause of bankruptcy there. How can this be with universal coverage?

Bottom line, you said your sig line is a "proven fact". Umm...no, its not. And I am not about to go thru the whole thing to disprove your other "proven facts" either.

Suffice it to say, all problems sound easy, until you research them a little.

Mark

They have all been proved, back in 2008. But we don't have a propaganda service to keep it all organized, or for that matter on the internet, Far from it...

Actually, I have proven that it is WRONG.

Sorry about that.

Mark

BS. 3/4 of bankruptcies before O-Care HAD insurance.

And? 100% of the Canadian bankruptcies due to medical costs had insurance as well.

Your point?

Mark

VERY few in Canada are due to medical. Ay caramba.

 

[francoHFW]

There is neither in the Obama administration, you are lying if you say otherwise.

Don't confuse Cranko with the facts.

His tiny little left wing mind is already made up.

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

Already provided it.

Any counter ?

Where? lol

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Don't confuse Cranko with the facts.

His tiny little left wing mind is already made up.

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

Yup, tell us again how you cannot keep your doctor and insurance is pure propaganda. Are you a lifetime subscriber to your dear leaders lies of the year?

He didn't realize how much Pub dupes loved their scam policies. He did say "if you like them", dupe. And since 5 years passed, it's a prediction that didn't happen in some cases, not a factual lie like your heroes major in. Politifact has to bend over backwards to find Dem lies.
Total Pub Propaganda BS: 2 years of control, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

The final straw.

You are no longer worth it.

You have been outed as an Obamacocksucker. Reading your horseshit is only good for a laugh.

He out and out blew it on this one and your asskissing little mind can't stand it.

Even John Steward hammered him on this.



There was never a reference to a junk plan until the admin got caught with their pants down.

Lying bastard.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Don't confuse Cranko with the facts.

His tiny little left wing mind is already made up.

BS tidal waves of horseshytte propaganda you mean, functional morons.

Case in point.

Got no information.

Sig is B.S.

And we get this ?

Sig is all proven fact. Any argument?

Already provided it.

Any counter ?

Where? lol

Read something asshole.

 

[francoHFW]

Dems did have 24 days in session when they could stop filibusters.
It's all in the link.

Nothing but excuses and blame game. They can build a car in about 4 hours. They could have had a stack of bills ready to ram thru one after another for 24 days. The are the rich, they like it as-is.

They didn't know they were in a hurry, of course, tii Brown won. During a meltdown is not the time for reform anyway. ACA wouldn't start for 4-5 years.