The rich don’t pay their fair share.

Thinker101

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We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?
 
When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

So which is it? You don't pay taxes or you don't mind yours going up?
 
When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

Good for you....what's your point?
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

So which is it? You don't pay taxes or you don't mind yours going up?
So which is it? You don't want a dysfunctional society or you do?
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.
we can also go back in time and see how a country was built w/o NEAR the tax revenue they have now.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.
we can also go back in time and see how a country was built w/o NEAR the tax revenue they have now.

Nope, our current empire requires ever more and more to occupy and control the planet. This is why we now cannibalize the "homeland" economically.
 
All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.
we can also go back in time and see how a country was built w/o NEAR the tax revenue they have now.

Nope, our current empire requires ever more and more to occupy and control the planet. This is why we now cannibalize the "homeland" economically.
then our current empire needs to stop doing stupid shit and go back to only doing what we can afford.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

Good for you....what's your point?

You said income between 38,700 and 82,500 is currently taxed at 22 percent. I simply pointed out that in the military, EVERYONE, regardless of income level paid in federal tax at the flat rate of 28 percent, and if you also had to pay state tax (some states didn't tax the military), you paid in an additional 4 percent.

So, in short, 22 percent is not accurate for people in the military. If they don't pay state tax, they pay in 28 percent of their income. If they pay in state tax as well, then their taxes are withheld at 32 percent.
 
All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.

Eggzactly, and they don't even pay what they're obligated to now either. New upstart businesses are crippled in trying to compete with concentrated corporate wealth and power. The wealthy do not take risks, they bought up your media machine and your representation so they would have to.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Why do your posts always go in circles and never have a point?
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.
we can also go back in time and see how a country was built w/o NEAR the tax revenue they have now.

Nope, our current empire requires ever more and more to occupy and control the planet. This is why we now cannibalize the "homeland" economically.
then our current empire needs to stop doing stupid shit and go back to only doing what we can afford.
Never gonna happen, we allowed concentrated corporate wealth and power to take over governance and the media machine. Who's going to stop them? Voters? Please.
 
All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.

Eggzactly, and they don't even pay what they're obligated to now either. New upstart businesses are crippled in trying to compete with concentrated corporate wealth and power. The wealthy do not take risks, they bought up your media machine and your representation so they would have to.

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Why do your posts always go in circles and never have a point?
Do you have an argument to make today hon?
 
All anyone need do is review how things were societally before when we've had at various time frames BOTH 70% and 90% marginal tax rates, there's no mystery around any of it. The corporate state is very nervous.

Yeah why don't you review it dummy. This time pay attention to the tax shelters and investment options that guaranteed the rich never paid anywhere near 70% or 90%. Then pay attention to why this was changed so that the rich would be encouraged to take risks, start new businesses, expand existing businesses, creating jobs for the middle class and wealth to fund welfare for all you mooching deadbeats.

Eggzactly, and they don't even pay what they're obligated to now either. New upstart businesses are crippled in trying to compete with concentrated corporate wealth and power. The wealthy do not take risks, they bought up your media machine and your representation so they would have to.

So you don’t think people took risks to become wealthy? Seriously?

I think the entire political and economic system is fraudulent and corrupted.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?
Democrats have been saying for years that it should only be tax hikes on over 250,000 and higher, and tax cuts for the rest. Change the channel and read something, super duper.
 
We’ve heard these words thousands of times. For those that agree they don’t, what does it mean to you? If taxes go up to 70% - 90% for “rich” folks, do you feel your taxes won’t go up? Let’s say you’re income is between $38,700 - $82,500, currently paying 22%. How much should your taxes go up? Or for some reason do you feel if the rich pay more, then you’ll get more?

When I was in the military, federal tax withholding was calculated at 28 percent. If you also had to pay state tax, then an additional 4 percent was withheld. I know these things because I worked in the Personnel office.

Good for you....what's your point?

You said income between 38,700 and 82,500 is currently taxed at 22 percent. I simply pointed out that in the military, EVERYONE, regardless of income level paid in federal tax at the flat rate of 28 percent, and if you also had to pay state tax (some states didn't tax the military), you paid in an additional 4 percent.

So, in short, 22 percent is not accurate for people in the military. If they don't pay state tax, they pay in 28 percent of their income. If they pay in state tax as well, then their taxes are withheld at 32 percent.

Didn't want it to get too complicated for some of you folks.
The New 2018 Federal Income Tax Brackets & Rates
 

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