The real epicdemic in America is with doctors

[bigrebnc1775]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

sure thing over 10 million AR's in the hands of citizens and over 450 million firearms

Thanks, that was my point!

Some who have guns were the owners.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sorry, I just posted how the data was collected diagnosis of the wrong disease wasn't a factor.

Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S. - 05/03/2016

I read that

Sorry, I just posted how the data was collected diagnosis of the wrong disease wasn't a factor.

Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S. - 05/03/2016

"Medical errors are an under-recognized cause of death".

At that time, it was under-recognized that diagnostic errors, medical mistakes and the absence of safety nets could result in someone’s death, and because of that, medical errors were unintentionally excluded from national health statistics,”

these are just the ones that get filed some families don't or didn't recognize the death was due to doctor error
The number of medical malpractice suits filed each year in the United States tends to vary, but the overall trend is that they are on the rise. The average annual number of suits filed each year is about 85,000, with the actual number of medical injuries estimated to be about one million per year.
Philadelphia Medical Malpractice Attorneys - Medical Malpractice Stats

An ambulance chasers website!

I accept your surrender!

Dude the relevant fact we the number of law suits

 

[Katniss]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

I think your argument is interesting and your point is well taken but it's a false comparison. A doctor treats people individually whereas a person with a gun can have multiple victims.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S. - 05/03/2016

I read that

Study Suggests Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S. - 05/03/2016

"Medical errors are an under-recognized cause of death".

At that time, it was under-recognized that diagnostic errors, medical mistakes and the absence of safety nets could result in someone’s death, and because of that, medical errors were unintentionally excluded from national health statistics,”

these are just the ones that get filed some families don't or didn't recognize the death was due to doctor error
The number of medical malpractice suits filed each year in the United States tends to vary, but the overall trend is that they are on the rise. The average annual number of suits filed each year is about 85,000, with the actual number of medical injuries estimated to be about one million per year.
Philadelphia Medical Malpractice Attorneys - Medical Malpractice Stats

An ambulance chasers website!

I accept your surrender!

Dude the relevant fact we the number of law suits

Law suits are meaningless unless they are found in the victims favor.

Anyone can sue anyone for just about any reason...it is the American way

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

I think your argument is interesting and your point is well taken but it's a false comparison. A doctor treats people individually whereas a person with a gun can have multiple victims.

A shitty doctor can have multiple patients at the same time.

 

[Katniss]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

I think your argument is interesting and your point is well taken but it's a false comparison. A doctor treats people individually whereas a person with a gun can have multiple victims.

A shitty doctor can have multiple patients at the same time.

Yeah.....but I doubt they all drop dead at the same time.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

I think your argument is interesting and your point is well taken but it's a false comparison. A doctor treats people individually whereas a person with a gun can have multiple victims.

A shitty doctor can have multiple patients at the same time.

Yeah.....but I doubt they all drop dead at the same time.

so, it is better if they are spread out?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

In my case two surgeons screwed up my hip replacement. And I got a bonus back surgery added to the mix.
The first left my repaired leg an inch longer than my right. I asked him point blank if this wasnt going to cause back problems later on.
Of course he insisted it would be fine......fast forward two years and had to get my 2nd and 3rd vertebrae fused. All was well for about eighteen months,then the pain was back. Had two different surgeons look at an MRI of my back and could find nothing wrong.
Off to a specialist that repairs botched hip jobs.
He had no doubts that my pain was caused by the botched hip replacement. So in he goes and he just replaces the ball/femur portion,because the socket was well set. The risk in doing so was hip dislocation...which happened twice before he said they were going to have to go back in and replace the socket as well.
I'm getting close to ditching the walker and my pain is gone so here's to hoping.

So all and all a terrible experience.
One hip replacement led to three hip replacements and a back surgery.

It's the first time in my life I considered suing.

 

[Katniss]

What this piece is lacking is the statistic that represents how many doctors don't make errors. What is the success rate?

You can have two separate individuals receive the exact same education but not have the same real world results. Not everyone is the same.

Should we use that same data for guns?

How many gun owners do not shoot people unlawfully with their guns compared to those that do?

I think your argument is interesting and your point is well taken but it's a false comparison. A doctor treats people individually whereas a person with a gun can have multiple victims.

A shitty doctor can have multiple patients at the same time.

Yeah.....but I doubt they all drop dead at the same time.

so, it is better if they are spread out?

Yes, it is. People can shop around based on the reputation of the doctor and their success and failure rates. People have a CHOICE. That's the difference.

I'm not a fan of introducing another controversial issue into a topic that deserves serious attention and hijacking the conversation. It's sneaky (grin)

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I read that
"Medical errors are an under-recognized cause of death".

At that time, it was under-recognized that diagnostic errors, medical mistakes and the absence of safety nets could result in someone’s death, and because of that, medical errors were unintentionally excluded from national health statistics,”

these are just the ones that get filed some families don't or didn't recognize the death was due to doctor error
The number of medical malpractice suits filed each year in the United States tends to vary, but the overall trend is that they are on the rise. The average annual number of suits filed each year is about 85,000, with the actual number of medical injuries estimated to be about one million per year.
Philadelphia Medical Malpractice Attorneys - Medical Malpractice Stats

An ambulance chasers website!

I accept your surrender!

Dude the relevant fact we the number of law suits

Law suits are meaningless unless they are found in the victims favor.

Anyone can sue anyone for just about any reason...it is the American way

A lawsuit may be meaningless but it sets the precedence of doctor error which was the point I was intending to make.

 

[KissMy]

More people die under a doctors care because of a mistake than 1000 AR15's have . 44,000-98,000 A YEAR
http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report Files/1999/To-Err-is-Human/To Err is Human 1999 report brief.pdf

There are 1,100,000 Medical Doctors in the USA saving 100's of million lives. But you want to obfuscate the FAILURE of US gun policy by screaming that 6% of Doctors made a mistake while saving lives. You are an IDIOT! The best use of your gun is to put a bullet in your stupid brain!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

More people die under a doctors care because of a mistake than 1000 AR15's have . 44,000-98,000 A YEAR
http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report Files/1999/To-Err-is-Human/To Err is Human 1999 report brief.pdf

There are 1,100,000 Medical Doctors in the USA saving 100's of million lives. But you want to obfuscate the FAILURE of US gun policy by screaming that 6% of Doctors made a mistake while saving lives. You are an IDIOT! The best use of your gun is to put a bullet in your stupid brain!

and the same thing is said about firearms but you leftist want them banned

 

[KissMy]

More people die under a doctors care because of a mistake than 1000 AR15's have . 44,000-98,000 A YEAR
http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report Files/1999/To-Err-is-Human/To Err is Human 1999 report brief.pdf

There are 1,100,000 Medical Doctors in the USA saving 100's of million lives. But you want to obfuscate the FAILURE of US gun policy by screaming that 6% of Doctors made a mistake while saving lives. You are an IDIOT! The best use of your gun is to put a bullet in your stupid brain!

and the same thing is said about firearms but you leftist want them banned

No! - You Lie! The Gun owners aren't daily actively using guns saving hundreds of millions of lives every year like doctors are. Doctors have to deal with the over 100,000 shootings caused by gun owners every year!

I don't want to ban all guns, citizens don't need guns with quick changing mags making it easy for 1 Terrorist to shoot 600 people at a Vegas concert. Mental defects shouldn't have access to guns. Criminals with guns should be locked up in Jail! Canada doesn't have the Gun problems that plague US.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

More people die under a doctors care because of a mistake than 1000 AR15's have . 44,000-98,000 A YEAR
http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/Files/Report Files/1999/To-Err-is-Human/To Err is Human 1999 report brief.pdf

There are 1,100,000 Medical Doctors in the USA saving 100's of million lives. But you want to obfuscate the FAILURE of US gun policy by screaming that 6% of Doctors made a mistake while saving lives. You are an IDIOT! The best use of your gun is to put a bullet in your stupid brain!

and the same thing is said about firearms but you leftist want them banned

No! - You Lie! The Gun owners aren't daily actively using guns saving hundreds of millions of lives every year like doctors are. Doctors have to deal with the over 100,000 shootings caused by gun owners every year!

I don't want to ban all guns, citizens don't need guns with quick changing mags making it easy for 1 Terrorist to shoot 600 people at a Vegas concert. Mental defects shouldn't have access to guns. Criminals with guns should be locked up in Jail! Canada doesn't have the Gun problems that plague US.

No it's you that are lying

 

[deanrd]

I believe that if Republicans hate doctors, don’t go. Nobody is ordering you to go to the doctor. Go talk to granny May and see if she has a new elixir.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I believe that if Republicans hate doctors, don’t go. Nobody is ordering you to go to the doctor. Go talk to granny May and see if she has a new elixir.

Dumb ass the last time I checked Trump was on your side of this issue. Your TDS PREVENTS YOU FROM SEEING REALITY