The Price of Children

[PoliticalChic]

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Merry Christmas, everybody.

 

[uscitizen]

They are expensive little buggers.
And I grow tried of paying to educate others children.
And paying more taxes becuase of child tax deductions.

You want em you pay for em.

Damn socialism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They are expensive little buggers.
And I grow tried of paying to educate others children.
And paying more taxes becuase of child tax deductions.

You want em you pay for em.

Damn socialism.

Ya' got extras?

Send 'em on over.

 

[William Joyce]

That is a wonderful little video!

I know all these "yuppie" couples without kids... I look at them and think 'how miserable'. Your flat-screen TVs, Saabs and other toys will never replace the joy of kids.

 

[Anguille]

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Merry Christmas, everybody.

Children are expensive pets.

I love kids but I couldn't watch the entire video. Too sappy and a little weird.

 

[Anguille]

That is a wonderful little video!

I know all these "yuppie" couples without kids... I look at them and think 'how miserable'. Your flat-screen TVs, Saabs and other toys will never replace the joy of kids.

I look at them and think, "Thank you for not adding to the population explosion."

 

[Anguille]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

 

[uscitizen]

A parents duty is to help a child grow up to be an educated adult ready to make it on their own in the world.

 

[Anguille]

A parents duty is to help a child grow up to be an educated adult ready to make it on their own in the world.

Parents who truly love their children do their best to do just that.

 

[Annie]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

I will say my life certainly would have been easier without children. They cost a lot! Especially when their father takes off. On the other hand, I wouldn't have the amazing adults that share concern for myself, as I did for them when they were young. I've three. Each has told me that if there comes a time that I need a place to stay, they 'want me.' While I'm doing very well, thank ye, that is a nice thing to know.

Someday, I hope, there will be my grandchildren. I look forward to that. Not my worry to keep them housed, fed, and polite. Nope, we will do all the fun things, leaving their parents to work out the kinks.

Yep, my life would have been easier, but not nearly as rich or rewarding.

You know? Teaching also gives some of those 'don't have to grow up' gifts. LOL! Snow days!

 

[Anguille]

You know? Teaching also gives some of those 'don't have to grow up' gifts. LOL! Snow days!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

I will say my life certainly would have been easier without children. They cost a lot! Especially when their father takes off. On the other hand, I wouldn't have the amazing adults that share concern for myself, as I did for them when they were young. I've three. Each has told me that if there comes a time that I need a place to stay, they 'want me.' While I'm doing very well, thank ye, that is a nice thing to know.

Someday, I hope, there will be my grandchildren. I look forward to that. Not my worry to keep them housed, fed, and polite. Nope, we will do all the fun things, leaving their parents to work out the kinks.

Yep, my life would have been easier, but not nearly as rich or rewarding.

You know? Teaching also gives some of those 'don't have to grow up' gifts. LOL! Snow days!

Every day I look at mine, sometimes when they are playing together, or teaching each other, and, it's just like 'wow.'

A gift, a blessing.

Too bad more folks don't see the same.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

Did you think I posted the pics as some sort of attempt at self aggrandizement?

One can only judge others by oneself, and I took the pictures as a beautiful gift.

I'm wondering why you think you have to either apologize to me, or tell me what a poor job I did in picking out a present for you.

Or is this some warped attempt to take a poke at "family values," or parents, or even children?

I loved the pics, and thought others would as well.

If you didn't, the problem is not mine.

 

[Anguille]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

Did you think I posted the pics as some sort of attempt at self aggrandizement?

One can only judge others by oneself, and I took the pictures as a beautiful gift.

I'm wondering why you think you have to either apologize to me, or tell me what a poor job I did in picking out a present for you.

Or is this some warped attempt to take a poke at "family values," or parents, or even children?

I loved the pics, and thought others would as well.

If you didn't, the problem is not mine.

I apologized to you in case my comments hurt your feelings.
Clearly they have.
Not my intention. I merely wanted to give an honest reaction to the video.
The pics of the kids are lovely. It's the text that accompanies them that is perverse.

 

[Annie]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

I will say my life certainly would have been easier without children. They cost a lot! Especially when their father takes off. On the other hand, I wouldn't have the amazing adults that share concern for myself, as I did for them when they were young. I've three. Each has told me that if there comes a time that I need a place to stay, they 'want me.' While I'm doing very well, thank ye, that is a nice thing to know.

Someday, I hope, there will be my grandchildren. I look forward to that. Not my worry to keep them housed, fed, and polite. Nope, we will do all the fun things, leaving their parents to work out the kinks.

Yep, my life would have been easier, but not nearly as rich or rewarding.

You know? Teaching also gives some of those 'don't have to grow up' gifts. LOL! Snow days!

Every day I look at mine, sometimes when they are playing together, or teaching each other, and, it's just like 'wow.'

A gift, a blessing.

Too bad more folks don't see the same.

There are those that should have children and those that shouldn't. My ex shouldn't. He now has 7. He can 'afford' them, but he doesn't care for them. I really think that if he hadn't basically forced me into divorcing him, he'd have messed up my 3 more than he did by the time they were 6-9. He's creating another mess, whether or not wife #2 is as smart?

In general I do think most of us learn parenting through what we experienced. I was blessed with wonderful parents. Mistakes? Sure, but we all do. However they taught my brother and I that what we are is more important than what we have. What we do is more important than what could have been. My ex wasn't lucky in the parent department, not by a long shot. Many of my friends weren't either, though most of them managed to overcome and be great parents.

I don't know if I'd had a different upbringing that I might have chosen differently. It's why I tend to be a 'live and let live' type of person. On the other hand, many that say they are 'liberal' tend to be very rigid in what they find acceptable.

 

[Anguille]

There are those that should have children and those that shouldn't. My ex shouldn't. He now has 7. He can 'afford' them, but he doesn't care for them. I really think that if he hadn't basically forced me into divorcing him, he'd have messed up my 3 more than he did by the time they were 6-9. He's creating another mess, whether or not wife #2 is as smart?

In general I do think most of us learn parenting through what we experienced. I was blessed with wonderful parents. Mistakes? Sure, but we all do. However they taught my brother and I that what we are is more important than what we have. What we do is more important than what could have been. My ex wasn't lucky in the parent department, not by a long shot. Many of my friends weren't either, though most of them managed to overcome and be great parents.

I don't know if I'd had a different upbringing that I might have chosen differently. It's why I tend to be a 'live and let live' type of person. On the other hand, many that say they are 'liberal' tend to be very rigid in what they find acceptable.

Hey you, I'm what most people would call a liberal and I thought your post was excellent.

 

[California Girl]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

I find the obsession with kids creepy too! Nice that I'm not alone.

Honestly, people with kids seem to think they have achieved something amazing. You haven't - you had a kid - absolutely no achievement in that.

Then, they let them run rampant without a thought for other people. Other people's kids are, generally, pretty damned annoying.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Mostly kids are great . . . except for right now. My youngest is up for sale; first offer and she's yours.

 

[Anguille]

Okay, perverse curiosity made me watch the rest of the video.



Sorry Polly Chica, but it just grossed me out.

Messages like this concerning the supposed perks of having a child:

"For $160,149.00 you never have to grow up!!"

"In the eyes of a child you rank right up there under God"

and other such inanities.

The latest catch phrase in the family values set is "It's all about the kids" but this video clearly shows that for many parents it is all about themselves. Using kids as an escape back to childhood, using kid's admiration to bolster your own self esteem, expecting a kid to be your best friend. Nothing in the video really talks about what is good for the kid. Only what psychological benefits the kid can give the parent. The difficulties of raising children are never even hinted at. Everything is one big happy NeverNeverland adventure. This video is aimed at convincing narcissists to become parents and those are just the sort of people who should NOT be parents.

Obsession with children is creepy, regardless of whether it's on the part of a child molester or a needy parent who immerses him/herself so entirely in their child's life that they cease to be an adult.

I find the obsession with kids creepy too! Nice that I'm not alone.

Honestly, people with kids seem to think they have achieved something amazing. You haven't - you had a kid - absolutely no achievement in that.

Then, they let them run rampant without a thought for other people. Other people's kids are, generally, pretty damned annoying.

I recently spent some time with my cousin, a great guy who I love dearly but who since becoming the father of two young children, who I also love dearly, seems to have turned into Michael Jackson (minus the sexual abuse allegations) ! It's impossible to have a normal conversation with him if the kids are present. Not so much because they interrupt but because my cousin can't keep his attention focused for more than 5 seconds on any adult he is interacting with. He is constantly turning around to see what the kids are up to and ask them what they are doing. They sometimes even get a bit annoyed with his intrusiveness in their games and ignore him. Then he gets all anxious and hurt. He was practically in tears the other day because his 3 year old didn't want to go out fishing with him and said" Daddy, I'm sick of you dumb boat and never want to go on it again!''

He was never like this before. Always an easygoing cheerful sort of guy with a great sense of humor. Something is very wrong with him but in his and his wife's eyes, he is the perfect father.

 

[Anguille]

Mostly kids are great . . . except for right now. My youngest is up for sale; first offer and she's yours.

LOL!!! Do you have a return policy?