The President Seems Lost

[keee keee]

Inexperienced and clueless. Character and experience DO MATTER!!! Being able to read a teleprompter and being half black does not qualify you to be President!!!

 

[Mr. H.]

Obama may seem lost, but he's found a hidden talent.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcpDWpX_4M]YouTube - Obama Does Chappelle[/ame]

 

[Xenophon]

Interestingly, the next person to run against Obama can use his own slogans against him.

'Hope & Change' will be desired as much in 2012 as it was in 2008.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Columnist Richard Cohen gives voice to the growing concern of many regarding President Obama's seeming detachment from the requirements of the job of president.

Nice opinion piece. AGAIN, with no concrete evidence to support the title. Where do you find all of these hallow opinion pieces, and why do you bother reading them?

I kinda like this one:

"The Obama devotees were the victims of their own belief in political magic. The devotees could not make up their minds. In a newly minted U.S. senator from Illinois, they saw the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. Like Lincoln, Mr. Obama was tall and thin and from Illinois, and the historic campaign was launched out of Springfield. The oath of office was taken on the Lincoln Bible. Like FDR, he had a huge economic challenge, and he better get it done, repair and streamline the economy in his "first hundred days." Like JFK, he was young and stylish, with a young family.

All this hero-worship before Mr. Obama met his first test of leadership. In reality, he was who he was, a Chicago politician who had done well by his opposition to the Iraq war. He had run a skillful campaign, and had met a Clinton machine that had run out of tricks and a McCain campaign that never understood the nature of the contest of 2008.

He was no FDR, and besides the history of the depression—the real history—bears little resemblance to the received narrative of the nation instantly rescued, in the course of 100 days or 200 days, by an interventionist state. The economic distress had been so deep and relentless that FDR began his second term, in 1937, with the economy still in the grip of recession.

At no time had Ronald Reagan believed that the American covenant had failed, that America should apologize for itself in the world beyond its shores. There was no narcissism in Reagan. It was stirring that the man who headed into the sunset of his life would bid his country farewell by reminding it that its best days were yet to come.
In contrast, there is joylessness in Mr. Obama. He is a scold, the "Yes we can!" mantra is shallow, and at any rate, it is about the coming to power of a man, and a political class, invested in its own sense of smarts and wisdom, and its right to alter the social contract of the land. In this view, the country had lost its way and the new leader and the political class arrayed around him will bring it back to the right path.

Thus the moment of crisis would become an opportunity to push through a political economy of redistribution and a foreign policy of American penance. The independent voters were the first to break ranks. They hadn't underwritten this fundamental change in the American polity when they cast their votes for Mr. Obama.

Those protesters in those town-hall meetings have served notice that Mr. Obama's charismatic moment has passed. Once again, the belief in that American exception that set this nation apart from other lands is re-emerging. Health care is the tip of the iceberg. Beneath it is an unease with the way the verdict of the 2008 election was read by those who prevailed. It shall be seen whether the man swept into office in the moment of national panic will adjust to the nation's recovery of its self-confidence."

Fouad Ajami: Obama’s Summer of Discontent - WSJ.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

And thankfully, neither President Obama nor any of the Democrats advocate socialism. But it is the rightwings new buzzword and they think if they say it often enough it must be true

Did you check out Obama-appointee Van Jones?

"He was appointed to serve as the special adviser for green jobs, enterprise and innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality. According to the White House blog, Jones’ duties include helping to craft job-generating climate policy and to ensure equal opportunity in the administration’s energy proposals.

Van Jones, formerly a self-described “rowdy black nationalist,” boasted in a 2005 interview with the left-leaning East Bay Express that his environmental activism was a means to fight for racial and class “justice.”

Jones was president and founder of Green For All, a nonprofit organization that advocates for building a so-called inclusive green economy.
Until recently, Jones was a longtime member of the board of Apollo Alliance, a coalition of labor, business, environmental and community leaders that claims on its website to be “working to catalyze a clean energy revolution that will put millions of Americans to work in a new generation of high-quality, green-collar jobs.”

Although influential, Apollo has only 14 state affiliates nationwide. Its New York office is directed by Jeff Jones, a top founding member of the Weather Underground radical organization.
Not mentioned is that Jeff Jones was a leading anti-war activist and terrorist group founder who spent time on the run from law enforcement agencies while his group carried out a series of bombings of U.S. government buildings.

Jeff Jones joined the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, from which the Weathermen splintered in the fall of 1965. Two years later, he became the SDS’s New York City regional director, a position in which he participated in nearly all of the group’s major protests until 1969, including the 1968 Columbia University protests and the violent riots that same year at the Democratic National Convention.

In 1969, Jeff Jones founded the Weathermen with terrorists Bill Ayers and Mark Rudd when the three signed an infamous statement calling for a revolution against the American government inside and outside the country to fight and defeat what the group called U.S. imperialism. President Obama came under fire for his longtime, extensive association with Ayers.

Jeff Jones was a main leader and orchestrator of what became known as the Days of Rage, a series of violent riots in Chicago organized by the Weathermen. The culmination of the riots came when he gave a signal for rowdy protestors to target a hotel that was the home of a local judge presiding over a trial of anti-war activists.

Jeff Jones went underground after he failed to appear for a March 1970 court date to face charges of “crossing state lines to foment a riot and conspiring to do so.” He moved to San Francisco with Ayers’ wife, Bernardine Dorhn. That year, at least one bombing claimed by the Weathermen went off in Jones’ locale at the Presidio Army base.

Jones’ Weathermen would take credit for multiple bombings of U.S. government buildings, including attacks against the U.S. Capitol March 1, 1971; the Pentagon May 19, 1972, and a 1975 bombing of the State Department building.

White House adviser Van Jones, meanwhile, is not impartial to radical activism.
He was a founder and leader of the communist revolutionary organization Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM. The organization had its roots in a grouping of black people organizing to protest the first Gulf War. STORM was formally founded in 1994, becoming one of the most influential and active radical groups in the San Francisco Bay area.

STORM worked with known communist leaders. It led the charge in black protests against various issues, including a local attempt to pass Proposition 21, a ballot initiative that sought to increase the penalties for violent crimes and require more juvenile offenders to be tried as adults.

The leftist blog Machete 48 identifies STORM’s influences as “third-worldist Marxism (and an often vulgar Maoism).”
Speaking to the East Bay Express, Van Jones said he first became radicalized in the wake of the 1992 Rodney King riots, during which time he was arrested.
“I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”

“I met all these young radical people of color – I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’ I spent the next 10 years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary,” he said.

One of STORM’s newsletters featured a tribute to Amilcar Cabral, the late Marxist revolutionary leader of Guinea-Bissau and the Cape Verde Islands.
The tribute is noteworthy because Jones reportedly named his son after Cabral and reportedly concludes every e-mail with a quote from the communist leader.
STORM eventually fell apart amid bickering among its leaders.
Van Jones then moved on to environmentalism. He used his Ella Baker Center to advocate “inclusive” environmentalism and launch a Green-Collar Jobs Campaign, which led to the nation’s first Green Jobs Corps in Oakland, Calif.
Patriots and Liberty » Blog Archive » WH Thugocracy: Obama’s Green Jobs Czar Worked with Terror Founder

 

[Sinatra]

Columnist Richard Cohen gives voice to the growing concern of many regarding President Obama's seeming detachment from the requirements of the job of president.

Nice opinion piece. AGAIN, with no concrete evidence to support the title. Where do you find all of these hallow opinion pieces, and why do you bother reading them?

I kinda like this one:

"The Obama devotees were the victims of their own belief in political magic. The devotees could not make up their minds. In a newly minted U.S. senator from Illinois, they saw the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy. Like Lincoln, Mr. Obama was tall and thin and from Illinois, and the historic campaign was launched out of Springfield. The oath of office was taken on the Lincoln Bible. Like FDR, he had a huge economic challenge, and he better get it done, repair and streamline the economy in his "first hundred days." Like JFK, he was young and stylish, with a young family.

All this hero-worship before Mr. Obama met his first test of leadership. In reality, he was who he was, a Chicago politician who had done well by his opposition to the Iraq war. He had run a skillful campaign, and had met a Clinton machine that had run out of tricks and a McCain campaign that never understood the nature of the contest of 2008.

He was no FDR, and besides the history of the depression—the real history—bears little resemblance to the received narrative of the nation instantly rescued, in the course of 100 days or 200 days, by an interventionist state. The economic distress had been so deep and relentless that FDR began his second term, in 1937, with the economy still in the grip of recession.

At no time had Ronald Reagan believed that the American covenant had failed, that America should apologize for itself in the world beyond its shores. There was no narcissism in Reagan. It was stirring that the man who headed into the sunset of his life would bid his country farewell by reminding it that its best days were yet to come.
In contrast, there is joylessness in Mr. Obama. He is a scold, the "Yes we can!" mantra is shallow, and at any rate, it is about the coming to power of a man, and a political class, invested in its own sense of smarts and wisdom, and its right to alter the social contract of the land. In this view, the country had lost its way and the new leader and the political class arrayed around him will bring it back to the right path.

Thus the moment of crisis would become an opportunity to push through a political economy of redistribution and a foreign policy of American penance. The independent voters were the first to break ranks. They hadn't underwritten this fundamental change in the American polity when they cast their votes for Mr. Obama.

Those protesters in those town-hall meetings have served notice that Mr. Obama's charismatic moment has passed. Once again, the belief in that American exception that set this nation apart from other lands is re-emerging. Health care is the tip of the iceberg. Beneath it is an unease with the way the verdict of the 2008 election was read by those who prevailed. It shall be seen whether the man swept into office in the moment of national panic will adjust to the nation's recovery of its self-confidence."

Fouad Ajami: Obama’s Summer of Discontent - WSJ.com

That is among the most insightful and well written contrasts of Obama and Reagan I have read. Every modern politician has attempted to emulate the success of Reagan - how he, as Obama himself said, changed the trajectory of the nation. All have failed - some more than others.

The problem for Obama is that America knew Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a friend, and American knows that President Obama is no Ronald Reagan...

 

[007]

Columnist Richard Cohen gives voice to the growing concern of many regarding President Obama's seeming detachment from the requirements of the job of president.

Excerpts:


The President Seems Lost
By Richard Cohen

Let's go back to that "teachable moment." It was proclaimed by Barack Obama after he said that police in Cambridge, Mass., had acted "stupidly" in arresting Henry Louis Gates for essentially being black in his own house. It has been a month now, and the one sure thing we have learned in this extended teachable moment is about Obama himself. He can't teach.[/

More and more Obama is being likened to Lyndon Johnson, with Afghanistan becoming his Vietnam. Maybe. But the better analogy is to Jimmy Carter, particularly the president analyzed by James Fallows in a 1979 Atlantic magazine article, "The Passionless Presidency." "The central idea of the Carter administration is Jimmy Carter himself," Fallows wrote. And what is the central idea of the Obama presidency? It is change. And what is that? It is Obama himself.

RealClearPolitics - The President Seems Lost

The President seems lost? Shit... THAT'S AN UNDER STATEMENT! What in the HELL gave ANYONE the idea this little JUNIOR SENATOR, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, ZERO EXPERIENCE AT ANYTHING buffoon was ready to be the President of the United States? If you're one of the MORONS that voted this little FRAUD and GRIFTER into office.... THANKS A FUCKING LOT FOR FUCKING US, and HERE'S YOUR PICTURE....

 

[Polk]

Someone having wealth does not make them your ruling elite. Those who wish to confescate, without compensation, from one who owns or earns, to redistribute to those who contribute nothing, are indeed the ruling elite.

It does when that wealth is used to rewrite the rules of the process in their favor.

 

[Oddball]

Someone having wealth does not make them your ruling elite. Those who wish to confescate, without compensation, from one who owns or earns, to redistribute to those who contribute nothing, are indeed the ruling elite.

It does when that wealth is used to rewrite the rules of the process in their favor.

Meh!!

The late Tanqueray Teddy didn't have to re-write one single law to get out of a manslaughter rap.

 

[oreo]

Obama is lost--he's in Martha's Vineyard in a rental house that cost $35,000 rent a week. And they complained about Bush heading back home to Crawford--to clear brush--he.he.he.

 

[Polk]

Obama is lost--he's in Martha's Vineyard in a rental house that cost $35,000 rent a week. And they complained about Bush heading back home to Crawford--to clear brush--he.he.he.

A "home" he just happened to purchase while running for President. It was all part of the show.

 

[DiamondDave]

Like we don't have a ruling elite here???

I really get a kick out of folks that accuse a Socialist system of something "Bad" like a "ruling elite" and fail to realize we've got the same here.

I wish I could say it was the Congress and the President that was the "ruling elite." But in truth, the ruling elite are both corporate citizens, and the very, very richest two percent or so of the people.

A few million from these folks, can get a Senator like Lieberman, Baucus, or any of the republicans to condemn people to death without health care.

Let's face it--most people would not notice muc of a difference, and a huge number would notice an improvement were we to live under a democratic socialist system, as much of Europe lives under. Socialism, more than anything to most republicans, is simply a word they've been taught to hate, a word many of them seem to be unable to define.

Socialism IS bad....

Being a system based on wealth or earning being 'communal' or 'societal' property goes inherently against the concept of personal freedom. The same personal freedom that this country was indeed founded on.

Someone having wealth does not make them your ruling elite. Those who wish to confescate, without compensation, from one who owns or earns, to redistribute to those who contribute nothing, are indeed the ruling elite.

Fuck socialism and anyone who supports it

And thankfully, neither President Obama nor any of the Democrats advocate socialism. But it is the rightwings new buzzword and they think if they say it often enough it must be true

Do they advocate a textbook style of socialism? Technically not. Do they support a socialist system, growing and growing, that is based on wealth redistribution, entitlement, and sucking off the tit of the contributor for the benefit (vote) of the non-contributor? Hell yes they do

 

[PoliticalChic]

The President Seems Lost

He's about as confused as a blind lesbian in a fish market

Like we don't have a ruling elite here???

I really get a kick out of folks that accuse a Socialist system of something "Bad" like a "ruling elite" and fail to realize we've got the same here.

I wish I could say it was the Congress and the President that was the "ruling elite." But in truth, the ruling elite are both corporate citizens, and the very, very richest two percent or so of the people.

A few million from these folks, can get a Senator like Lieberman, Baucus, or any of the republicans to condemn people to death without health care.

Let's face it--most people would not notice muc of a difference, and a huge number would notice an improvement were we to live under a democratic socialist system, as much of Europe lives under. Socialism, more than anything to most republicans, is simply a word they've been taught to hate, a word many of them seem to be unable to define.

There is a lot of nuance in your post that should be explored.

I hope you will consider starting some threads about 'elites,' the role of Congress and term limits, the rich and the poor-specifically the importance of each, the balance of socialism, communism and capitalism in a free society. I can see book-length threads here.

For now, just one point with which you may not be familiar: 97% of the millionaires in the US earned their money.

A mere 3% inherited.

How does that fit in with your thinking?

BTW, welcome to the board.