The perfect meme on socialism

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Is this what liberals really want?


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Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about that hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.
 
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The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?

Silliness. The people above never said anything about abandoning capitalism.

You cannot support the claim that America has moved more and more to socialism. If you could, you'd not have just pooped a stupid picture her as your entire argument.

Again...where are the places depicted in the pictures? Do you even know?

You strike me as a person who is afraid of the word socialism and don't understand that a hybrid system is where we are headed. Your fear of the word socialism is likely due to you fearing political systems and not economic systems. Common mistake.
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
When did the USSR practice Marx's communism?
 
The reality is, if we were to strictly adhere to Socialist tenets, folks like Bernie Sanders wouldn't be able to live the lavish lifestyles they currently enjoy.

Bernie Sanders Buys Third House – A Mere $600k “Summer Vacation House”…

Keeping up with his ‘man of the people image‘ Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has purchased this third house, a $600,000 lakefront vacation chalet in Champlain Islands.

Part of the traditional campaign negotiations between various camps is the willingness of the endorsed candidate to absorb the campaign debt of the endorser. The tighter the race, the more value is assigned to it. Subsequently, it shouldn’t necessarily come as a surprise to see Sanders financially benefiting from his endorsement of Hillary Clinton. How else does a Senator afford three homes on a congressional salary...

Bernie Sanders Buys Third House – A Mere $600k “Summer Vacation House”…
 
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Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?

Silliness. The people above never said anything about abandoning capitalism.

You cannot support the claim that America has moved more and more to socialism. If you could, you'd not have just pooped a stupid picture her as your entire argument.

Again...where are the places depicted in the pictures? Do you even know?

You strike me as a person who is afraid of the word socialism and don't understand that a hybrid system is where we are headed. Your fear of the word socialism is likely due to you fearing political systems and not economic systems. Common mistake.


Quite the opposite, I know Great BritaIn had no choice but to go to socialism to bring it back from WWII and then went towards capitislim under Thatcher.

If you can't see we are leaning more and more to socialism you have lost your mind, look at some hard liner liberal posters on here, they get giddy when company's go under, they get giddy when they are getting the votes to try to redistribute the 1% wealth.

They don't understand under socialism you will still have the rich, the politicians will just replace the bill gates..

Just look how much Bill and hillary amassed over the years..around 250 million bucks
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
When did the USSR practice Marx's communism?

I knew you were a Marx fan, when did they not try?

What happened?

Human nature always gets in the way of something that looks good on paper.
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?

Silliness. The people above never said anything about abandoning capitalism.

You cannot support the claim that America has moved more and more to socialism. If you could, you'd not have just pooped a stupid picture her as your entire argument.

Again...where are the places depicted in the pictures? Do you even know?

You strike me as a person who is afraid of the word socialism and don't understand that a hybrid system is where we are headed. Your fear of the word socialism is likely due to you fearing political systems and not economic systems. Common mistake.


Quite the opposite, I know Great BritaIn had no choice but to go to socialism to bring it back from WWII and then went towards capitislim under Thatcher.

If you can't see we are leaning more and more to socialism you have lost your mind, look at some hard liner liberal posters on here, they get giddy when company's go under, they get giddy when they are getting the votes to try to redistribute the 1% wealth.

They don't understand under socialism you will still have the rich, the politicians will just replace the bill gates..

Just look how much Bill and hillary amassed over the years..around 250 million bucks

Just like in the old Soviet Union and today's China, only the Political Elites thrive under Socialism/Communism. Just look at Venezuela right now. So you are Spot On. Thanks.
 
How many in this thread have read Obama's favorite book?

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They are set to release it as a movie next year.


I doubt seriously anyone is aware of the Perestroika Deception, or has watched the following documentary;

 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?

Silliness. The people above never said anything about abandoning capitalism.

You cannot support the claim that America has moved more and more to socialism. If you could, you'd not have just pooped a stupid picture her as your entire argument.

Again...where are the places depicted in the pictures? Do you even know?

You strike me as a person who is afraid of the word socialism and don't understand that a hybrid system is where we are headed. Your fear of the word socialism is likely due to you fearing political systems and not economic systems. Common mistake.


Quite the opposite, I know Great BritaIn had no choice but to go to socialism to bring it back from WWII and then went towards capitislim under Thatcher.

If you can't see we are leaning more and more to socialism you have lost your mind, look at some hard liner liberal posters on here, they get giddy when company's go under, they get giddy when they are getting the votes to try to redistribute the 1% wealth.

They don't understand under socialism you will still have the rich, the politicians will just replace the bill gates..

Just look how much Bill and hillary amassed over the years..around 250 million bucks

I don't think I will continue discussing it with you. You simply don't know enough to make it interesting. Have a good day.
 
We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China ... moves away from communism and socialism ..

That statement reflects either an immense degree of ignorance about capitalism, communism/socialism, and the history and thought pertaining to all three, or a boorish will to spew inflammatory rhetoric. Moreover, while I don't know if you have, your having written that statement and shared it publicly, strongly suggests you've spent no meaningful period of time in China's capitalist zones such as Shenzhen or Dalian. Having served clients and been in Shenzhen at least bi-weekly (save for holidays and vacations) for the past decade, socialism/communism and capitalism are alive and well there. (See also: China's Economy Dances Between Communism and Capitalism) Indeed, those parts of China are more capitalist than any party of the U.S., particularly insofar as once one gets the government's imprimatur to go into business, it's pretty damn near laissez faire capitalism all the way.


What does one find after reading/watching the content listed above? One finds:
  • China is both communist and capitalist.
  • China has shown that democracy and capitalism are not at all synonymous or inextricably linked, that is, capitalism does not necessarily imply democracy or anything resembling it. Thus, observations about communism can no longer be viewed as attestations about capitalism, nor vice versa.
  • China is clearly in a "tug of war" with itself about whether it will continue to successfully blend communism and capitalism or whether it will irrevocably discard communism and adopt some other political model.

Now by the preceding and what follows, do I assert any predilection or preference of my own for or against socialism/communism? Of course not. That would be nuts. I'm merely highlighting the absurdity given the ample evidence we've gained in the past score or so years of conflating ideas about China, communism/socialism and democracy and capitalism. Each one has it's pros and cons, and of the various systems just noted, the only one that isn't a political system is capitalism. It is purely and economic framework, which, IMO, is why it can be integrated effectively with a variety of political paradigms, although not pure (utopian, if you will) communism, but then that's never be extant on the scale of the U.S., China or any other nation with an enormous and diverse population. In my household, for example, communism works just fine; I control who does what, when they do it and how. (Call that a dictatorship if you want, but what is communism but group -- government leaders -- dictatorship that does the same thing with regard to millions upon millions?) That works just fine. It wouldn't work at all on the scale of even the D.C. Metro area.

As goes my personal preference, far and away laissez faire capitalism -- no matter the political framework within which it's implemented -- is my preference. Why? Because I've managed to be highly successful under capitalism and there's nothing suggesting I wouldn't be similarly successful within capitalist-socialism. I'm not unique in that way, but neither have I false modestly about my own blessings that would place me in good stead in any society.

Thoughts on capitalism and socialism:
In the early stage of the socialist movement in the 19th century, there was wide agreement that socialism would be a radically different type of society from capitalism. This understanding of socialism was held not just by revolutionary Marxist socialists, but also by evolutionary socialists, Christian socialists, and even anarchists. At that time, there was also wide agreement about the basic institutions of the future socialist system: public ownership instead of private ownership of the means of production, economic planning instead of market forces, production for use instead of production for profit, and a state that represented the working class. Socialism would be a system in which people cooperatively planned their economic and social development, instead of one in which the profit motive and competition determined economic and social development.

While economic growth would be needed for some time to eliminate poverty in the world and achieve a comfortable living standard for all, under socialism economic growth would be a social choice rather than an economic compulsion as it is under capitalism. Poverty thus abated in the world, the aim of increasing production might well lose its rationale. Instead, society might aim for a sustainable relationship with the natural environment, the development of human capabilities, the promotion of satisfying social relationships, and/or other alternative social goals for economic activity. This is the vision of a new and superior socioeconomic system that inspired the building of a socialist movement and the twentieth century revolutions aimed at building socialism.

Today it is common to encounter the view that socialism and capitalism are not two distinct socioeconomic systems. According to this view, socialism and capitalism are elements of most modern socioeconomic systems, with some countries "more capitalist" and others "more socialist." This view has long been found among supporters of capitalism, who worry that adoption of such allegedly "socialist" schemes as public provision of health care or retirement pensions damage a capitalist economy by mixing socialism with capitalism. In recent decades this view of socialism and capitalism has become common among supporters of socialism.

Such a view arose in Moscow toward the end of the Soviet period. During the late 1980s, many Soviet intellectuals began to argue that socialism is not after all a distinct system from capitalism. It became common to hear that modern capitalism has many features of socialism. Some even argued that modern capitalism was more "socialist" than the Soviet system.

In the late 1980s and early 1990s in the West a new literature on market socialism arose which views socialism as not qualitatively different from contemporary capitalism. This literature advocates a market socialist system in which private enterprises would pursue maximum profits in competitive markets. A strong state would regulate and supplement the market, as in contemporary capitalism. The only difference from capitalism is that enterprises would be owned either by workers, or by outside shareholders with institutions designed to prevent a distinct class of wealthy owners of capital from emerging. The substantive advantages over capitalism claimed by these models are a more equal distribution of income and a more genuine political democracy. However, if one imagined being parachuted into such an imaginary system, it would be difficult to see the differences from welfare-state capitalism.

The twentieth century attempts to build socialism were only the first attempts to do so. Since these attempts have largely passed away, capitalism has changed, moving backward toward a much harsher form in the contemporary neoliberal era. None of the major problems facing humankind today seems solvable within the framework of capitalism. Foremost among these is achieving a decent and secure living standard for all, in a manner that is environmentally sustainable over the long run.

Since capitalism now stands as an obstacle to human progress, and even human survival, it seems certain that further attempts will by made to supercede capitalism in the future. Recent developments in several South American countries suggest that a new period of socialist experiments may have already started in the twenty-first century. New socialist experiments have the advantage of being able to learn both the positive and negative lessons of the first socialist experiments in the twentieth century. Hopefully the next wave of socialist attempts will be able to avoid the pitfalls of the first wave and finally build a socialism that lives up to the original vision


Other useful references:
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about that hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.
Any form of socialism is a shit sandwich
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?

Silliness. The people above never said anything about abandoning capitalism.

You cannot support the claim that America has moved more and more to socialism. If you could, you'd not have just pooped a stupid picture her as your entire argument.

Again...where are the places depicted in the pictures? Do you even know?

You strike me as a person who is afraid of the word socialism and don't understand that a hybrid system is where we are headed. Your fear of the word socialism is likely due to you fearing political systems and not economic systems. Common mistake.
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A direct result of socialism
 
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
When did the USSR practice Marx's communism?
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Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
Is this what liberals really want?


14188521_1061901353858580_619401922464108396_o.jpg

Why so stupid? Seriously? Why do you fuckers always go overboard with the rhetoric? You can't name one liberal here who advocates for straight up socialism.

Where is the city in your picture? Is it in America? If so...it is not "on" socialism. How about tha hospital? Where is that?

If you tried harder, you might learn something.


The USA has long had a mixture of capitalism and socialism, as do most nations in the western world. .

The reason why we go overboard lone is because of people like the above.

We all know America is moving more and more to socialism, while China and Russia moves away from communism and socialism ..

Will all three meet at a happy medium?

Or will America swing so far left the meme becomes true before we swing back?
When did the USSR practice Marx's communism?

I knew you were a Marx fan, when did they not try?

What happened?

Human nature always gets in the way of something that looks good on paper.
Of all the types of socialism did only one lead to communism?
 

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