The people of Gaza share a lot in common with Americans. Think of the American revolutionary war.

[Rigby5]

You know you're a dreamer, but your heart's a gold, you had to run away high, so you wouldn't come home low.



Yeah, no. They want to kill the kafir where they find them and are majorly inbred.

Alahlulululululululah!

Stop trying to give Muslim shitbags Western attributes.

Wrong.
Moslems consider Christians and Jews to be allies, being "Brothers of the Book", and "Sons of Abraham".
Moslem are forbidden to kill Christians or Jews except in self defense.

 

[Rigby5]

Many people are under the mistaken belief that after the last Jewish-Roman war in 135 CE, there weren't any more Jewish inhabitants in Israel. Not true. There has always been a continuous Jewish presence in Israel. The Jewish Zainati family, from the village of Peki'in, trace their unbroken presence in Israel to the end of the last Jewish Commonwealth -- that is, nearly 2, 000 years ago! No Arab family can make this claim:

Wrong.
Any Jewish family who was allowed to stay had to be pretending to not be Jewish.
All the long standing families in Palestine are Canaanite, Chaldean, Nabatean, etc. that go back thousands of years before the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
The Canaanites go back over 7,000 years.

Just look at the archeology.
There is not a single Hebrew or Jewish building anywhere in all of Palestine.
The Hebrew were nomadic, and not masons.
Even buildings like Herod's palace, was built by Romans.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Wrong.
Any Jewish family who was allowed to stay had to be pretending to not be Jewish.
All the long standing families in Palestine are Canaanite, Chaldean, Nabatean, etc. that go back thousands of years before the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
The Canaanites go back over 7,000 years.

Just look at the archeology.
There is not a single Hebrew or Jewish building anywhere in all of Palestine.
The Hebrew were nomadic, and not masons.
Even buildings like Herod's palace, was built by Romans.

Almut Nebel's 2001 study, "The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East" found that, '[T]he Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouins represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews. According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the ARABIAN PENINSULA [emphasis mine], as is seen in the Arab-specific Eu 10 chromosomes that include the modal haplotypes observed in Palestinians and Bedouins.'

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wrong.
The Canaanites, Chaldeans, Philistine, Phoenicians, Nabataeans, etc. who were in Palestine 2000 years ago are the same descendants who are Palestinians now.
It is the Jews who do not belong, because they never paid for any of it, and instead illegally stole land by murder.
That is never acceptable and never goes away.
Read up on the massacres of native Palestinians by the Zionists around 1945.
Like the Dier Yassin massacre:

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So how many of these Canaanites, Chaldeans, Philistines, Phoenicians, Nabataeans were Muslims 2,000 years ago? None. Because Islam didn't exist then.

Jews were in the region a long time ago

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jews were the majority up until the 5th Century AD, Muslims didn't become the majority until the 12 century AD.

Jews were forced to convert to Christianity in the Byzantine period, so potentially even those Muslims are likely to have Jewish blood in them. It's all a mix.

 

[Rigby5]

You didn't answer the question -- again, where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish people were defending their homeland from the Roman occupiers?

The Palestinian were in Palestine, minding their own business, since they were not foolish enough to anger the Romans.
But your question is foolish because the Jews never did have a homeland in Palestine, and were given land by the Romans around 100 BC.
The Jews had been beat by the Babylonians and Assyrians over 800 years earlier.
Then the Persians had it for 400 years.
Then Alexander the Great ruled there.
Then it was Seleucid.
Then it was Hasmonean.
The Jews in Palestine were the put into power by the Romans after they beat the Hasmoneans in 63 BC.
Look it up, Herod was a Roman who converted to Judaism in order to quell sectarian violence.
But then around 66 BC the Jews rebelled and were defeated utterly.
{...
In 66 CE, the First Jewish-Roman War, also known as the Great Jewish Revolt, erupted. The war lasted for four years and was crushed by the Roman emperors Vespasian and Titus. In 70 CE, the Romans captured the city of Jerusalem and destroyed both the city and the Second Temple.
...}

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

The Palestinian were in Palestine, minding their own business, since they were not foolish enough to anger the Romans.
But your question is foolish because the Jews never did have a homeland in Palestine, and were given land by the Romans around 100 BC.
The Jews had been beat by the Babylonians and Assyrians over 800 years earlier.
Then the Persians had it for 400 years.
Then Alexander the Great ruled there.
Then it was Seleucid.
Then it was Hasmonean.
The Jews in Palestine were the put into power by the Romans after they beat the Hasmoneans in 63 BC.
Look it up, Herod was a Roman who converted to Judaism in order to quell sectarian violence.
But then around 66 BC the Jews rebelled and were defeated utterly.
{...
In 66 CE, the First Jewish-Roman War, also known as the Great Jewish Revolt, erupted. The war lasted for four years and was crushed by the Roman emperors Vespasian and Titus. In 70 CE, the Romans captured the city of Jerusalem and destroyed both the city and the Second Temple.
...}

Let's look at some prominent "Palestinian" Arab families to see where they hail from:

1 - The Husayni (Husseini) clan claim descent from Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Mohammad, the founder of Islam; Husayn hailed from Medina, which is in the Arabian Peninsula. al-Husayni family - Wikipedia

2 - The Nashashibis clan are of Kurdish, Turkoman or Arab origin.

Nashashibi family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3 - The Barghoutis are a sub-clan of the Bani Zeid tribe that hails from the Hejaz, a region in western, present-day Saudi Arabia.

Bani Zeid al-Gharbia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

4 - The al Khalids hail from Mecca.
Al-Khalil family - Wikipedia

5 - The Nusseibehs hail from Medina.

Nusaybah family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

PS For the third time, where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish People were fighting the Roman occupiers? Cassius Dio doesn't mention them.

 

[Rigby5]

Almut Nebel's 2001 study, "The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the Middle East" found that, '[T]he Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouins represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews. According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the ARABIAN PENINSULA [emphasis mine], as is seen in the Arab-specific Eu 10 chromosomes that include the modal haplotypes observed in Palestinians and Bedouins.'

If you do not understand what you quoted, it is that Jews are actually a type of Arab.
The Arab were there first, and the Arab languages are what is known as "Semitic".
The Hebrew are just a very small branch of the much larger Arab genetic tree.

The more recent migrations are from the Arabian Peninsula, but that is why the language changed around 600 AD.
The natives of Palestine adopted the Arabic language from the Arabian Peninsula, even though they are the much older Canaanites, Chaldeans, Nabateans, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc.
Same is true in Egypt, where the more recent migrations from the Arabian Peninsula cause Egypt to adopt Arabic as their language around 600 AD. But clearly the majority of Egyptians are native, and NOT from the Arabian Peninsula.

 

[Rigby5]

So how many of these Canaanites, Chaldeans, Philistines, Phoenicians, Nabataeans were Muslims 2,000 years ago? None. Because Islam didn't exist then.

Jews were in the region a long time ago

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jews were the majority up until the 5th Century AD, Muslims didn't become the majority until the 12 century AD.

Jews were forced to convert to Christianity in the Byzantine period, so potentially even those Muslims are likely to have Jewish blood in them. It's all a mix.

Religion has nothing at all to do with it.
Jews were never a majority.
Jews were in Egypt until around 1200 BC, did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They only ruled for about 150 years and were kicked out by the Assyrians.
Later those Jews remaining were kicked out by the Babylonians.
In the 5th century AD, the population of the Levant was less than 1% Jewish.
Islam took over by 700 AD.

There is no such thing as "Jewish blood".
Hebrew are a type of Arab.
There is only Arab blood.

Jews were in the region a long time ago, but they continually angered people because of their arrogance.
So everyone continually kept kicking them out.
Finally after the Roman Diaspora Decree around 160 AD, the Jews gave up on the Levant and decided to spread out into northern Africa and Europe. The gave up on the Mideast entirely.
They only came back slightly when the Turks offered them better pay.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Religion has nothing at all to do with it.
Jews were never a majority.
Jews were in Egypt until around 1200 BC, did not invade the Land of Canaan until around 1000 BC.
They only ruled for about 150 years and were kicked out by the Assyrians.
Later those Jews remaining were kicked out by the Babylonians.
In the 5th century AD, the population of the Levant was less than 1% Jewish.
Islam took over by 700 AD.

There is no such thing as "Jewish blood".
Hebrew are a type of Arab.
There is only Arab blood.

Jews were in the region a long time ago, but they continually angered people because of their arrogance.
So everyone continually kept kicking them out.
Finally after the Roman Diaspora Decree around 160 AD, the Jews gave up on the Levant and decided to spread out into northern Africa and Europe. The gave up on the Mideast entirely.
They only came back slightly when the Turks offered them better pay.

Well, History says Jews were a majority.

You can say there's only "Arab blood", in which case all these Jewish people who have moved back have "Arab blood".

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

If you do not understand what you quoted, it is that Jews are actually a type of Arab.
The Arab were there first, and the Arab languages are what is known as "Semitic".
The Hebrew are just a very small branch of the much larger Arab genetic tree.

The more recent migrations are from the Arabian Peninsula, but that is why the language changed around 600 AD.
The natives of Palestine adopted the Arabic language from the Arabian Peninsula, even though they are the much older Canaanites, Chaldeans, Nabateans, Philistines, Phoenicians, etc.
Same is true in Egypt, where the more recent migrations from the Arabian Peninsula cause Egypt to adopt Arabic as their language around 600 AD. But clearly the majority of Egyptians are native, and NOT from the Arabian Peninsula.

Here's a "Palestinian" on the matter: "[E]very Palestinian in Gaza and all over Palestine can prove their Arab roots, whether they be in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, or anywhere else ... half of my family is Egyptian ... [t]here are over 30 families in the Gaza Strip with the surname Al-Masri, 'Egyptian.' Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptian, and the other half are Saudi." -- Fathi Hamad, Hamas minister of the interior and of national security, March 23, 2012.

Btw, Hebrew is older than Arabic by at least 400 years.

 

[Rigby5]

Let's look at some prominent "Palestinian" Arab families to see where they hail from:

1 - The Husayni (Husseini) clan claim descent from Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Mohammad, the founder of Islam; Husayn hailed from Medina, which is in the Arabian Peninsula. al-Husayni family - Wikipedia

2 - The Nashashibis clan are of Kurdish, Turkoman or Arab origin.

Nashashibi family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3 - The Barghoutis are a sub-clan of the Bani Zeid tribe that hails from the Hejaz, a region in western, present-day Saudi Arabia.

Bani Zeid al-Gharbia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

4 - The al Khalids hail from Mecca.
Al-Khalil family - Wikipedia

5 - The Nusseibehs hail from Medina.

Nusaybah family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

PS For the third time, where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish People were fighting the Roman occupiers? Cassius Dio doesn't mention them.

Nonsense.
Your family history is about RULERS, and that has nothing to do with who are the natives and who owns the land.

And for the third time, you totally have your concept of history all wrong.
Jews had been defeated over 800 years before the Roman invasion.
The Romans did not defeat the Jews when they invaded around 63 BC, but decided then to install the Jews as the puppet rulers.
The Romans did not invade the Jews, but put the Jews into power.
The Jews were never the majority of the population of the Levant.
The Jews did rebel against their former patron around 60 AD, but the majority of the people in the Levants liked the Romans far better than the Jews, and were glad to see the Romans be rid of them.

 

[Rigby5]

Here's a "Palestinian" on the matter: "[E]very Palestinian in Gaza and all over Palestine can prove their Arab roots, whether they be in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, or anywhere else ... half of my family is Egyptian ... [t]here are over 30 families in the Gaza Strip with the surname Al-Masri, 'Egyptian.' Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptian, and the other half are Saudi." -- Fathi Hamad, Hamas minister of the interior and of national security, March 23, 2012.

Btw, Hebrew is older than Arabic by at least 400 years.

That is just stupid.
Hebrew obviously were a type of Arab.
The original Arab languages were not Arabic.
Arabic is a more modern Arab language, not one of the founding languages.
Anyone who does not know that Jews derived from and are Arabs, really does not have a clue.
Look up the meaning of the word "Semitic".
It means "of an Arab language group".
Almost all the people of the Mideast are Arab, except the Persians.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

That is just stupid.
Hebrew obviously were a type of Arab.
The original Arab languages were not Arabic.
Arabic is a more modern Arab language, not one of the founding languages.
Anyone who does not know that Jews derived from and are Arabs, really does not have a clue.
Look up the meaning of the word "Semitic".
It means "of an Arab language group".
Almost all the people of the Mideast are Arab, except the Persians.

Stupe, are you saying that Arabic is older than Hebrew?

 

[Rigby5]

Well, History says Jews were a majority.

You can say there's only "Arab blood", in which case all these Jewish people who have moved back have "Arab blood".

There is no history that claims any significant Jews remained in the Levant after the Roman Diaspora Decree.
Jews are a type of Arab, but still are not native to the Levant, and disappeared from the Levant after the around 160 AD.

Just look at the earliest or latest Ottoman or British census data.
The population of Palestine was less than 5% Jewish.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Nonsense.
Your family history is about RULERS, and that has nothing to do with who are the natives and who owns the land.

And for the third time, you totally have your concept of history all wrong.
Jews had been defeated over 800 years before the Roman invasion.
The Romans did not defeat the Jews when they invaded around 63 BC, but decided then to install the Jews as the puppet rulers.
The Romans did not invade the Jews, but put the Jews into power.
The Jews were never the majority of the population of the Levant.
The Jews did rebel against their former patron around 60 AD, but the majority of the people in the Levants liked the Romans far better than the Jews, and were glad to see the Romans be rid of them.

You still not answering the question -- where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish People were defending their homeland from the Roman occupiers?

 

[Rigby5]

Stupe, are you saying that Arabic is older than Hebrew?

Wrong.
Arabic is a modern Arab language.
There are lots of much older Arab languages.
And in fact, Hebrew has no alphabet or written script until about 100BC.
Before that, Greek or Aramaic was used, and Aramaic is an older Arab language.

 

[frigidweirdo]

There is no history that claims any significant Jews remained in the Levant after the Roman Diaspora Decree.
Jews are a type of Arab, but still are not native to the Levant, and disappeared from the Levant after the around 160 AD.

Just look at the earliest or latest Ottoman or British census data.
The population of Palestine was less than 5% Jewish.

So you're saying there aren't a significant number of Jews AFTER the Roman Disapora Decree, what about BEFORE it?

 

[Rigby5]

You still not answering the question -- where were the "Palestinians" when the Jewish People were defending their homeland from the Roman occupiers?

That is still a stupid question.
The Jews were not defending anywhere from the Roman invasion around 63 BC, but were installed by the Romans to be the rulers of the area around 63 BC.
The Jews, like Herod, were not in power until the Romans invaded and decided to put the Jews into power.

But everyone else managed to get along with the Romans.
The Jews were the only ones so arrogant that they decided to rebel around 60 AD, and were defeated.
Of course the majority of the people in the Levant did NOT join the Jewish rebellion against the Romans, because it was a stupid rebellion, that could not possibly do anything but fail.
But clearly the Roman Diaspora Decree of 160 AD proves that very few Jews ever existed, since them all being forced to leave, had zero effect.
The majority of Palestine was never Jewish.

 

[Rigby5]

So you're saying there aren't a significant number of Jews AFTER the Roman Disapora Decree, what about BEFORE it?

After the Romans invaded and put the Jews in power, then the Jewish population did greatly increase.
But there were so many previous tribes in Palestine, that clearly the Jews could never have been a majority.
They were so easily beaten by everyone, like the Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Romans, that they could never have been more than a forth of the population or so.
In particular, the Romans discussed who to use as their ruling puppets, and the Jews were picked BECAUSE they were such a small minority.
All colonial imperialists do that, pick a minority as their elite representatives.
That usually prevents rebellion.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

There is no history that claims any significant Jews remained in the Levant after the Roman Diaspora Decree.
Jews are a type of Arab, but still are not native to the Levant, and disappeared from the Levant after the around 160 AD.

Just look at the earliest or latest Ottoman or British census data.
The population of Palestine was less than 5% Jewish.

Where were the "Palestinians" in all of this?

Wrong.
Arabic is a modern Arab language.
There are lots of much older Arab languages.
And in fact, Hebrew has no alphabet or written script until about 100BC.
Before that, Greek or Aramaic was used, and Aramaic is an older Arab language.

Hebrew 10th Century BCE

Arabic 8th Century BCE

List of languages by first written account - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org