The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[KingGUERRILLA]

It doesn't matter at all if he ran in front of arberry and blocked his straight line path of Escape

What do you mean it doesn’t matter? It matters because your whole line of bullshit is wrong. If TM ran ahead of AA and cut off his path then TM is probably 6 feet ahead of the truck and there is no 90° angle that AA turned. There is none of your white supremacist bullshit that TM was using the engine block for cover standing right next to the truck if he’s about 6 feet away when the first shot was fired. Now that you are giving up your ridiculous interpretation of the facts Such as the one where you say TM walked about 3 feet after he raised his shotgun and aimed towards AA from the driver side of the truck to the position 6 feet ahead of the truck where he’s blocking AAs path it means there is no argument that TM was simply standing his ground. It means TM was aggressive and attacking the route we’re AA decided to go as an escape. TM cannot claim self-defense when he is blocking AAs escape and he shoots AA in the lower chest.

Who committed the first crime that provoked the entire thing and who committed the first act of violence?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

you cant see arberry when the first shot is discharged because he is completely obscured by the vehicle

Then why have you been lying the past few months that you see AA run around the truck and turn 90 degrees to attack TM who was no more that two feet in front of the truck with the shotgun pointed down. You can’t see TM either but you’ve been telling us all along what you see him doing when nobody else can.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Who committed the first crime that provoked the entire thing and who committed the first act of violence?

There was no crime that triggered the pursuit and execution of AA for refusing to stop when told to stop at gunpoint. GM, the ringleader of the pursuit, claimed that AA resembled a suspect who had committed burglaries in the area, but GM had no evidence of a crime committed in the neighborhood that day.

Because there was no crime committed that day by anyone in the neighborhood then everything that GM and TM and Roddy did to someone they suspected may have resembled somebody who may have committed crimes in the area, makes all three white men the only ones committing crimes that day. The ultimate crime being murder.

If you think blocking someone’s way and then shooting him in the chest on a public roadway is not an act of violence then nobody can help you outside of a mental institution.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

you cant see arberry when the first shot is discharged because he is completely obscured by the vehicle

Then why have you been lying the past few months that you see AA run around the truck and turn 90 degrees to attack TM who was no more that two feet in front of the truck with the shotgun pointed down. You can’t see TM either but you’ve been telling us all along what you see him doing when nobody else can.

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We know what happens when both men come back into view. What I want to know is why you have been lying about what happened when both men were not in view.

You said TM was never further than one or 2 feet in front of the bumper. Now you know that is not possible. So why were you lying about it?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

GM had no evidence of a crime committed in the neighborhood that day

he had immediate knowledge that a wanted criminal was fleeing in his neighborhood

told to stop at gunpoint

nobody pointed a gun at your criminal hero

Because there was no crime committed that day

except Criminal Trespass and assault

committing crimes that day.

LOL
so if I commit a felony on Monday no one can stop me on Tuesday??

lol

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

you cant see arberry when the first shot is discharged because he is completely obscured by the vehicle

Then why have you been lying the past few months that you see AA run around the truck and turn 90 degrees to attack TM who was no more that two feet in front of the truck with the shotgun pointed down. You can’t see TM either but you’ve been telling us all along what you see him doing when nobody else can.

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We know what happens when both men come back into view. What I want to know is why you have been lying about what happened when both men were not in view.

You said TM was never further than one or 2 feet in front of the bumper. Now you know that is not possible. So why were you lying about it?

It wouldn't matter if Travis McMichael cartwheeled 200 feet in front of Maude

he never even put his hands on him, it's not a crime to follow someone and yell stop even while holding a gun

Travis McMichael never had the chance to block Maude's path because he was attacked while standing his ground

 

[Turtlesoup]

Trouble for you social justice fantasy Warriors is the fact that the McMichaels were sitting still having given up their Pursuit when they were closed on confronted and subsequently attacked

They put themnselves into a position which they thought would be beneficial in blocking Arbery.

If they'd "given up" they'd have gone the **** home.

They didn't do that...

So even though they were standing still they were still metaphorically chasing him?

They weren't standing still. Travis got out of the truck and went into the oncoming lane. Then he went back into the same lane of the truck. That's the opposite of standing still.

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Trouble for you social justice fantasy Warriors is the fact that the McMichaels were sitting still having given up their Pursuit when they were closed on confronted and subsequently attacked

They put themnselves into a position which they thought would be beneficial in blocking Arbery.

If they'd "given up" they'd have gone the **** home.

They didn't do that...

So even though they were standing still they were still metaphorically chasing him?

They weren't standing still. Travis got out of the truck and went into the oncoming lane. Then he went back into the same lane of the truck. That's the opposite of standing still.

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

The funniest part is that these clowns are desperate to get Travis on illegal imprisonment even though he never aimed a gun at or put his hand on Maude

they're going to argue that Maude was emotionally imprisoned by his fear of white men with guns

It all boils down to a coward's interpretation of law, since they're too afraid to protect the women and children of their neighborhood they want to make it illegal for real men to so they can feel less cowardly

These cowards would make what this man did illegal simply because he did not actually witness a felony.... what pitiful spineless cowards

 

[whutTHEYsay]

he had immediate knowledge that a wanted criminal was fleeing in his neighborhood

No he didn’t. He saw a black male who was jogging and he jumped to a conclusion that he should not have jumped to. It turns out the young black male he saw jogging was not a wanted criminal at all. He had committed no crime that would ever justify the use of deadly force to detain him. If GM wanted to help local police catch someone who may have trespassed on an unfenced construction site with no record of theft, vandalism or violent crime, he could have followed a bit taking a few photos and call the cops.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The funniest part is that these clowns are desperate to get Travis on illegal imprisonment even though he never aimed a gun at or put his hand on Maude

you are a liar. TM aimed his shotgun at AA in this frame of the video.

Call it whatever you want “low ready position” whatever - it’s aimed at AA with the intent to force him to stop. AA then changed his direction to avoid physical contact with a man pointing a shotgun at him.

So TM attempts to stop AA again by moving to a new position in front of the truck. He got there before AA did. Then he shot AA in the chest. Then and only then did AA go for the gun to avoid being shot again by the whacko that just shot him.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

No they stopped by killing someone who they thought looked like someone seen trespassing on a surveillance video at an unfenced construction site in the neighborhood. Nothing to be escalated to the use of lethal force to capture him.

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“It now appears that this young man may have been coming onto the property for water,” J. Elizabeth Graddy, the attorney for homeowner Larry English, said in a statement. “There is a water source at the dock behind the house as well as a source near the front of the structure. Although these water sources do not appear within any of the cameras’ frames, the young man moves to and from their locations.”​

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Security video from construction site may show Ahmaud Arbery was getting water, lawyer says

Security video from a house under construction is being scrutinized as Gregory and Travis McMichael remain jailed on charges of felony murder.

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Only racists would support shooting to kill a black guy running on a public road after stopping on a construction site to ‘steal’ a drink of water. TAP WATER. probably petty larceny $0.00003 cents.

GRAB YER GUNS BOYS WE GOT US A THIEF TO CATCH. Look at that black boy run - musta just stole somethin .....

 

[whutTHEYsay]

the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,”

Reply to 26420311

they're going to argue that Maude was emotionally imprisoned by his fear of white men with guns

You are a liar. That’s not my argument at all.

I’m going with the prosecution’s verbiage:

Friday, Nov 13, 2020 at 1:20 PM By Christian Boone, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution​

Greg and Travis McMichael denied bond in Ahmaud Arbery case​

Walmsley said the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.​

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,” Walmsley said. “There is a significant danger to all of those actions. Individuals who do that need to be aware of the fact they can end up exactly where (the McMichaels) are now.”​

 

[Canon Shooter]

are you actually suggesting experienced young black criminals don't know how to run with a gun in their pocket? LOL

Well, see, that wasn't an issue here, as Arbery was unarmed...

Gregory missed the training after he took a new job thanks to several cancer diagnosis is in the family... that's like falling behind on ceu credits LOL

He was suspended for his shortcomings more than once...

he was a law enforcement professional for almost 30 years, he understood Georgia law

How odd, then, that he chose not to adhere to it...

 

[whutTHEYsay]

This is stupid post: 26420288 “it's not a crime to follow someone and yell stop even while holding a gun

It wouldn't matter if Travis McMichael cartwheeled 200 feet in front of Maude

he never even put his hands on him, it's not a crime to follow someone and yell stop even while holding a gun

Travis McMichael never had the chance to block Maude's path because he was attacked while standing his ground

This is stupid post: 26420289 “they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them

Oh brother they were trying to stop a CRIMINAL from fleeing the scene of the crime---------then the criminal attacked them.

This is stupid post: 26420311 “It all boils down to a coward's interpretation of law”

It all boils down to a coward's interpretation of law, since they're too afraid to protect the women and children of their neighborhood they want to make it illegal for real men to so they can feel less cowardly

Stupid? Why you ask? Yes because when trying to win the freedom of three men charged with murder and held without bail because they are a danger to society it’s not wise to declare yourself more knowledgeable on Georgia Law than a judge assigned to handle the case.

It’s very stupid to call that judge stupid and a coward after being caught yelling lie after lie after lie about the case. Habitual liars are never welcome in any presiding judge’s court room.

post: 26420634 “The judge: “
Walmsley said the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.
“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,”

I’m going with the prosecution’s verbiage:

Friday, Nov 13, 2020 at 1:20 PM By Christian Boone, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Greg and Travis McMichael denied bond in Ahmaud Arbery case
Walmsley said the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.
“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,” Walmsley said. “There is a significant danger to all of those actions. Individuals who do that need to be aware of the fact they can end up exactly where (the McMichaels) are now.”

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Reply to 26420289

--then the criminal attacked them.

Of course unarmed AA attacked the man who at very close range fired a shotgun at him that wounded him in the chest and who was attempting to illegally block his path of travel on suspicion of burglaries as it turns out he did not commit.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Reply to 26420289

--then the criminal attacked them.

Of course unarmed AA attacked the man who at very close range fired a shotgun at him that wounded him in the chest and who was attempting to illegally block his path of travel on suspicion of burglaries as it turns out he did not commit.

Criminal AA attacked the men who were trying to stop him for the police ----------AA attacked the men knowing that he had been snagged illegal trespassing as he cased a new house going up and was snagged by a concerned neighbor who called the cops on his stupid ass.........

Any one with any brains realizes that when an unemployed thief breaks into a new house going up that has been robbed before--that it is the thief who is robbing it.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

he had immediate knowledge that a wanted criminal was fleeing in his neighborhood

No he didn’t. He saw a black male who was jogging and he jumped to a conclusion that he should not have jumped to. It turns out the young black male he saw jogging was not a wanted criminal at all. He had committed no crime that would ever justify the use of deadly force to detain him. If GM wanted to help local police catch someone who may have trespassed on an unfenced construction site with no record of theft, vandalism or violent crime, he could have followed a bit taking a few photos and call the cops.

He didn't see a young black man jogging, he recognized a criminal fleeing from crime scene at full Sprint running in a dry white T-shirt long cotton cargo shorts and loose laced shoes

He had immediate first-hand knowledge that Berry was a wanted criminal because the property owner Larry English was asking him and many other people in the neighborhood to help him catch the specific individual who had yet to be identified

He wasn't shot for committing the crime of trespass or for fleeing he was shot for attacking a man who was standing his ground holding a shotgun

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Reply to 26420289

--then the criminal attacked them.

Of course unarmed AA attacked the man who at very close range fired a shotgun at him that wounded him in the chest and who was attempting to illegally block his path of travel on suspicion of burglaries as it turns out he did not commit.

If he would have cooperated with their arrest perhaps he could have sued them but resorting to violence without being threatened is completely uncalled for and a clear escalation

Berry boy initiated the entire sequence of events by committing a crime then he provoked Pursuit by flight then he escalated use of force by committing an act of violence that carried with it a deadly threat

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

The funniest part is that these clowns are desperate to get Travis on illegal imprisonment even though he never aimed a gun at or put his hand on Maude

you are a liar. TM aimed his shotgun at AA in this frame of the video.

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Call it whatever you want “low ready position” whatever - it’s aimed at AA with the intent to force him to stop. AA then changed his direction to avoid physical contact with a man pointing a shotgun at him.

So TM attempts to stop AA again by moving to a new position in front of the truck. He got there before AA did. Then he shot AA in the chest. Then and only then did AA go for the gun to avoid being shot again by the whacko that just shot him.

Why would a trained military law enforcement agent shoot a man who was fleeing?

if he had the intention to shoot him for jogging while black he had lots of opportunities prior to being punched in the face.

Maude made a 90-degree change of course and rushed a man who was then forced to pull the trigger in a clear case of self-defense

it's perfectly reasonable to shoot someone who is trying to take your shotgun away

If Berry boy had been shot and then reacted by grabbing the shotgun he would have been hit in the side or the back not Square in the chest from a low angle

Forensics prove that he was shot while trying to disarm Travis McMichael not innocently jogging by

If Travis McMichael would have aimed his shotgun and discharged it on a man who was jogging laterally to his truck the criminal hero would have been hit in the side not Square in the chest from a low angle forensics as taking you to clown town

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,”

Reply to 26420311

they're going to argue that Maude was emotionally imprisoned by his fear of white men with guns

You are a liar. That’s not my argument at all.

I’m going with the prosecution’s verbiage:

Friday, Nov 13, 2020 at 1:20 PM By Christian Boone, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution​

Greg and Travis McMichael denied bond in Ahmaud Arbery case​

Walmsley said the footage shows the McMichaels pose a threat to the community. They had no way of knowing if Arbery was responsible for the burglaries they suspected him of, the judge concluded.​

“And that somehow resulted in individuals thinking it was appropriate to block that individual’s path of travel, shoulder a firearm in order to get him to stop,” Walmsley said. “There is a significant danger to all of those actions. Individuals who do that need to be aware of the fact they can end up exactly where (the McMichaels) are now.”​

They had reasonable suspicion that he had committed a crime and that's all anyone needs in order to pursue someone and ask them to identify themselves which is all that occurred prior to the violent assault initiated by the criminal

If Berry boy had complied with their attempt to detain him he would have been carted off to jail because Larry English would have pressed charges... perhaps you could have got Oprah and LeBron to help him sue his way out of it but the fact that he attacked simply to facilitate his Escape makes him a violent Criminal